2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch
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I like AOC because she's hot
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For anybody that didn't see the debate. Just tryin to save you some time.
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Who won the Presidential Debate?
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BallSacBounce wrote:For anybody that didn't see the debate. Just tryin to save you some time.Stay tuned to Breitbart News for live updates.
Who won the Presidential Debate?
Donald Trump 96.19%
Joe Biden 3.81%
Return To Poll
Nuff Ced,
Vote Accordingly
You can thank me in the.morning. I'll be looking at my list and checking it twice just to see who's been naughty and nice.
Breitbart? LMAO. They banned me from their comments' section simply because I didn't mimic the right wing talking points. That site doesn't allow dissent. Very un-American, wouldn't you say?
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Im just happy that someone finally brought up the central park 5. Only took till the last friggin debate to do that.
Jimmit79 wrote:At this point I want RJ to get paid
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frothbrain wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
No one is paying attention this
What is amazing is how effing stupid anyone could be to pretend this is going to change the election when Trump already got impeached for failing to make any of this crap stick. You really have to be a turnip to think it is going to impact anything
I don't think it will. I was just replying to Pointguard who used that article to clear Biden, when it does no such thing.
Then why are you clawing to this delusional nonsense? Let go, get a life, let us all find some peace.
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There is one thing I do not understand. Lets assume for argument's sake that Joe Biden knew about his son's business in China in 2017 and even wanted to have 10% of the shares. Was he prohibited to do that because he was at the time some government official (am too lazy to google)? Or because he was VP until 2016? Is it typical for US that once you had some high government position, you cannot become involved in business afterwards?
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Paija wrote:There is one thing I do not understand. Lets assume for argument's sake that Joe Biden knew about his son's business in China in 2017 and even wanted to have 10% of the shares. Was he prohibited to do that because he was at the time some government official (am too lazy to google)? Or because he was VP until 2016? Is it typical for US that once you had some high government position, you cannot become involved in business afterwards?
Not only that, Hunter Biden isn't even involved in politics - in any way. Unless I missed something. And yet we are deemed stupid to bring up the fact that Ivanka is literally making millions of dollars and gaining patents with China WHILE working in the White House, but somehow Hunter Biden is the worst thing ever.
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HarthorneWingo wrote:BallSacBounce wrote:For anybody that didn't see the debate. Just tryin to save you some time.Stay tuned to Breitbart News for live updates.
Who won the Presidential Debate?
Donald Trump 96.19%
Joe Biden 3.81%
Return To Poll
Nuff Ced,
Vote Accordingly
You can thank me in the.morning. I'll be looking at my list and checking it twice just to see who's been naughty and nice.
Breitbart? LMAO. They banned me from their comments' section simply because I didn't mimic the right wing talking points. That site doesn't allow dissent. Very un-American, wouldn't you say?
They BANNED your ass, lmao. You must have been a very bad boy Wingo, very bad.
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Paija wrote:There is one thing I do not understand. Lets assume for argument's sake that Joe Biden knew about his son's business in China in 2017 and even wanted to have 10% of the shares. Was he prohibited to do that because he was at the time some government official (am too lazy to google)? Or because he was VP until 2016? Is it typical for US that once you had some high government position, you cannot become involved in business afterwards?
I have yet to hear a reasonable answer to this from a Trump supporter and in many cases when I've mentioned the timeline they seem to be learning about it for the first time. They usually retreat to the Ukrainian inspector story which falls apart with the slightest addition of context in a similar manner to this. The conspiracy crap that Trump's pushing is aimed at confirmation bias; that worked a lot more effectively with Hillary.
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Huge. Amazing really. Change is coming I hope. Trump has been reaching out and supporting black communities with funding for HBCUs and Opportunity Zones and the Platinum Plan and it would be nice to see some voter movement.
If not, it's still the right thing to do and it's about time but if there is some movement that would be the best thing for Black communities. Force both parties to come forth with their plans and do better.
Voting for Trump would show Republicans the Black vote can be fought for and won.
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Paija wrote:There is one thing I do not understand. Lets assume for argument's sake that Joe Biden knew about his son's business in China in 2017 and even wanted to have 10% of the shares. Was he prohibited to do that because he was at the time some government official (am too lazy to google)? Or because he was VP until 2016? Is it typical for US that once you had some high government position, you cannot become involved in business afterwards?
It’s the kind of story that works on low information dumbasses that can’t be bothered to do 10 minutes of research or bookmark Snopes. There are tons of Senators and members of Congress that own businesses, are CEO’s or have stake in businesses. None of this is a conflict of interest unless you have direct influence in policy that directly gives your company an unfair advantage or directly steers money to it. In Ukraine Biden’s wasn’t making policy but was the anti corruption spokesperson on behalf of the US, NATO, the IMF and other entities who were pressuring the Attorney General to prosecute corrupt companies, like the one his son was on the board of. I have no idea where the China thing comes from because Biden wasn’t making China policy as VP.
If you want to see an example of direct corruption by foreign countries we can talk about foreign countries making direct payments by staying at Trump properties, hotels and golf courses to directly bribe someone who is the chief decision maker. And you can research a clear example of Trump’s relationship with Saudi Arabia. Also we can talk about China granting 500 patents to his daughter, again who has direct influence on policy or a middle eastern country buying Kushner’s debt, again Kushner has a direct influence on policy.
Trump and the rest of the propagandists in the right wing media just keep repeating lies to influence the people that think all politicians are corrupt but are too lazy to do any critical thinking.
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BallSacBounce wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:BallSacBounce wrote:For anybody that didn't see the debate. Just tryin to save you some time.
Nuff Ced,
Vote Accordingly
You can thank me in the.morning. I'll be looking at my list and checking it twice just to see who's been naughty and nice.
Breitbart? LMAO. They banned me from their comments' section simply because I didn't mimic the right wing talking points. That site doesn't allow dissent. Very un-American, wouldn't you say?
They BANNED your ass, lmao. You must have been a very bad boy Wingo, very bad.

They couldn’t handle Wingo’s Truth Bombs.
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BallSacBounce wrote:For anybody that didn't see the debate. Just tryin to save you some time.Stay tuned to Breitbart News for live updates.
Who won the Presidential Debate?
Donald Trump 96.19%
Joe Biden 3.81%
Return To Poll
Nuff Ced,
Vote Accordingly
You can thank me in the.morning. I'll be looking at my list and checking it twice just to see who's been naughty and nice.
This is sad even for you.
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aq_ua wrote:Hes_On_Fire wrote:
When did he mention AOC tonight? I watched the whole thing and didn't hear her name once.
I'm not a Republican (I lean left on many issues) but AOC is the biggest self promoter in politics right now. For someone who has done so little she is treated like a deity. Props to her for coming this far from where she was 3 years ago but I absolutely do not see the hype around her - particularly her policies that aren't based in reality. And it has nothing to do with her being a woman, which I know is a basic attack to use anytime she's criticized for anything.
It was related to the climate change plan and that it's something AOC + 3 came up with, not Biden. I tend to agree that I don't see the fascination with AOC, nice back story and everything, but it's hard to build meaningful credibility without much of a track record.
She came up because she was a lead role on Biden's Climate committee. You can hear Stephanie Kelton and AOC's influence in the rhetoric Biden uses toward Green Investments.
AOC's clout comes from a few things. She knocked out the third highest ranking Senate member to win, that's a big deal. She's routinely one of the biggest fundraisers in the party and does it on small dollar donations. Her fundraising power also comes without the need to spend half her time making phone calls to donors. That's translated to her being very good in Committee Hearings; Katie Porter is the only one that's had as many memorable moments in questioning this cycle.
I think "self-promoter" tends to coincide with stances she takes that give voice to activists but that aren't understood more broadly.
- I've seen her tagged with self-promotion for showing up to support the Sunrise Movement...after that she used their input while working on the Green New Deal (and then she shot ads for Ed Markey while his race was still tight with Kennedy).
- Her 70% top tax rate comment blew up and sparked discussions that are worth revisiting from moderates who'd like to defend Biden from the same exact attacks for his top tax rate being attacked for reaching the 60's.
- Her challenges to ICE and visit to the detention center is another place where people tried to ridicule her and say it was a stunt. Except she's one of the few politicians (the rest of the squad too) that continued to push the Abolish ICE concept when the mainstream conversation had moved on to new controversies. This week children being separated from parents was back on the debate stage and a new report accuses ICE agents of torturing African Asylum seekers to get them to sign deportation orders.
- She also had a dust up with the DCCC over paying dues. They had just threatened to blacklist anybody that helped incumbent challengers (an obvious attack on the progressive strategy of the last 5 years or so). Her response was to not pay the dues but to make donations to candidates that fit progressive principles. The Courage to Change PAC's list of endorsements has a number of winners that will absolutely bolster the Squad's numbers and add more weight if they move collectively.
So on Climate Change, Immigration, Taxation and Empowering progressive candidates; she's actually helped us advance causes and improve our positions on the left. She's got holes in her game (foreign policy is a weakness for sure) but I think the idea of "self-promotion" with regards to her has been overblown as hell.
Also to add on to Wingo's post about AOC on Twitch. That's another example where she could be painted a shameless self-promoter. But she called attention to New Yorkers that they can vote for Biden/Harris on the WFP line which will help a progressive organization AND Biden. She discussed what universal healthcare is like in Europe with Hbomberguy (who she supported when he raised money for Transrights as well). She has a bigger platform than anyone could have expected but she's used it to signal boost the causes she always backed and she's been pretty effective on a number of them.
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SG- Grimes | Dick | Bogdanovic
SF- Bridges | George
PF- Hunter |Strus| Fleming
C- Turner | Powell | Wiseman
SG- Grimes | Dick | Bogdanovic
SF- Bridges | George
PF- Hunter |Strus| Fleming
C- Turner | Powell | Wiseman
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j4remi wrote:aq_ua wrote:Hes_On_Fire wrote:
When did he mention AOC tonight? I watched the whole thing and didn't hear her name once.
I'm not a Republican (I lean left on many issues) but AOC is the biggest self promoter in politics right now. For someone who has done so little she is treated like a deity. Props to her for coming this far from where she was 3 years ago but I absolutely do not see the hype around her - particularly her policies that aren't based in reality. And it has nothing to do with her being a woman, which I know is a basic attack to use anytime she's criticized for anything.
It was related to the climate change plan and that it's something AOC + 3 came up with, not Biden. I tend to agree that I don't see the fascination with AOC, nice back story and everything, but it's hard to build meaningful credibility without much of a track record.
She came up because she was a lead role on Biden's Climate committee. You can hear Stephanie Kelton and AOC's influence in the rhetoric Biden uses toward Green Investments.
AOC's clout comes from a few things. She knocked out the third highest ranking Senate member to win, that's a big deal. She's routinely one of the biggest fundraisers in the party and does it on small dollar donations. Her fundraising power also comes without the need to spend half her time making phone calls to donors. That's translated to her being very good in Committee Hearings; Katie Porter is the only one that's had as many memorable moments in questioning this cycle.
I think "self-promoter" tends to coincide with stances she takes that give voice to activists but that aren't understood more broadly.
- I've seen her tagged with self-promotion for showing up to support the Sunrise Movement...after that she used their input while working on the Green New Deal (and then she shot ads for Ed Markey while his race was still tight with Kennedy).
- Her 70% top tax rate comment blew up and sparked discussions that are worth revisiting from moderates who'd like to defend Biden from the same exact attacks for his top tax rate being attacked for reaching the 60's.
- Her challenges to ICE and visit to the detention center is another place where people tried to ridicule her and say it was a stunt. Except she's one of the few politicians (the rest of the squad too) that continued to push the Abolish ICE concept when the mainstream conversation had moved on to new controversies. This week children being separated from parents was back on the debate stage and a new report accuses ICE agents of torturing African Asylum seekers to get them to sign deportation orders.
- She also had a dust up with the DCCC over paying dues. They had just threatened to blacklist anybody that helped incumbent challengers (an obvious attack on the progressive strategy of the last 5 years or so). Her response was to not pay the dues but to make donations to candidates that fit progressive principles. The Courage to Change PAC's list of endorsements has a number of winners that will absolutely bolster the Squad's numbers and add more weight if they move collectively.
So on Climate Change, Immigration, Taxation and Empowering progressive candidates; she's actually helped us advance causes and improve our positions on the left. She's got holes in her game (foreign policy is a weakness for sure) but I think the idea of "self-promotion" with regards to her has been overblown as hell.
Also to add on to Wingo's post about AOC on Twitch. That's another example where she could be painted a shameless self-promoter. But she called attention to New Yorkers that they can vote for Biden/Harris on the WFP line which will help a progressive organization AND Biden. She discussed what universal healthcare is like in Europe with Hbomberguy (who she supported when he raised money for Transrights as well). She has a bigger platform than anyone could have expected but she's used it to signal boost the causes she always backed and she's been pretty effective on a number of them.
All true but the real root of her popularity is the right wing hysteria about her, last night's debate being a continuation of said hysteria. They have been having a meltdown for 2 years about the fact she is in congress. People like her are simply not supposed to be in politics and they can't deal with it. It's kinda funny.
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HarthorneWingo wrote:BallSacBounce wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
Breitbart? LMAO. They banned me from their comments' section simply because I didn't mimic the right wing talking points. That site doesn't allow dissent. Very un-American, wouldn't you say?
They BANNED your ass, lmao. You must have been a very bad boy Wingo, very bad.
They couldn’t handle Wingo’s Truth Bombs.
I want some screencaps of your greatest hits over there!
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robillionaire wrote:j4remi wrote:aq_ua wrote:It was related to the climate change plan and that it's something AOC + 3 came up with, not Biden. I tend to agree that I don't see the fascination with AOC, nice back story and everything, but it's hard to build meaningful credibility without much of a track record.
She came up because she was a lead role on Biden's Climate committee. You can hear Stephanie Kelton and AOC's influence in the rhetoric Biden uses toward Green Investments.
AOC's clout comes from a few things. She knocked out the third highest ranking Senate member to win, that's a big deal. She's routinely one of the biggest fundraisers in the party and does it on small dollar donations. Her fundraising power also comes without the need to spend half her time making phone calls to donors. That's translated to her being very good in Committee Hearings; Katie Porter is the only one that's had as many memorable moments in questioning this cycle.
I think "self-promoter" tends to coincide with stances she takes that give voice to activists but that aren't understood more broadly.
- I've seen her tagged with self-promotion for showing up to support the Sunrise Movement...after that she used their input while working on the Green New Deal (and then she shot ads for Ed Markey while his race was still tight with Kennedy).
- Her 70% top tax rate comment blew up and sparked discussions that are worth revisiting from moderates who'd like to defend Biden from the same exact attacks for his top tax rate being attacked for reaching the 60's.
- Her challenges to ICE and visit to the detention center is another place where people tried to ridicule her and say it was a stunt. Except she's one of the few politicians (the rest of the squad too) that continued to push the Abolish ICE concept when the mainstream conversation had moved on to new controversies. This week children being separated from parents was back on the debate stage and a new report accuses ICE agents of torturing African Asylum seekers to get them to sign deportation orders.
- She also had a dust up with the DCCC over paying dues. They had just threatened to blacklist anybody that helped incumbent challengers (an obvious attack on the progressive strategy of the last 5 years or so). Her response was to not pay the dues but to make donations to candidates that fit progressive principles. The Courage to Change PAC's list of endorsements has a number of winners that will absolutely bolster the Squad's numbers and add more weight if they move collectively.
So on Climate Change, Immigration, Taxation and Empowering progressive candidates; she's actually helped us advance causes and improve our positions on the left. She's got holes in her game (foreign policy is a weakness for sure) but I think the idea of "self-promotion" with regards to her has been overblown as hell.
Also to add on to Wingo's post about AOC on Twitch. That's another example where she could be painted a shameless self-promoter. But she called attention to New Yorkers that they can vote for Biden/Harris on the WFP line which will help a progressive organization AND Biden. She discussed what universal healthcare is like in Europe with Hbomberguy (who she supported when he raised money for Transrights as well). She has a bigger platform than anyone could have expected but she's used it to signal boost the causes she always backed and she's been pretty effective on a number of them.
All true but the real root of her popularity is the right wing hysteria about her, last night's debate being a continuation of said hysteria. They have been having a meltdown for 2 years about the fact she is in congress. People like her are simply not supposed to be in politics and they can't deal with it. It's kinda funny.
That's hilarious. No, we just like to spotlight her insanity. Laughing at her is great fun for us.







