[Camelo Thread] - Update: He's Pushing for NYK! Part 5

[captain subtext]

@captain subtext - If he's spoiled, and has his mind set on NY like everyone reported and is reporting, wouldn't that help us? Nobody is going to change his mind because he wants what he wants.

He wants the money, New York and a contending team.

What he can have:

a) New York and a contending team (sign as a free agent)
b) New York and the money (via trade with our assets gone)
c) New Jersey and the money (via trade with their assets gone)
d) Dallas and the money and a contending team.

There is no way he will get all of his wishes, and he will surely not choose the Knicks over money.

[AllanHoustonFan]

guys someone answer? where is carmelo going? why is everyone saying today hes been traded or bout to be traded to the nets?

Because Incarcerated Bob said so

[soby22]

Pharmcat, Donnie's deal with Houston looks pretty good. Possibly no swap (or not a significant one) this season, and the team should be better next season too (when the pick is protected for top 5 anyway).

So it's Jordan Hill (who is not doing anything really) for two Max slots. Yeah the other teams gave up less to deal guys like Hinrich, but Jeffries was worse than Hinrich and the bottom line IS the bottom line: Doesn't look like some great trade for Houston at all right now. They're in line to get nothing much out of it.

but it severely limited our assets we can use to get someone to fill that max slot

what does that mean? who are knicks getting?

[NBA Fan 1234]

Kerr will be going on ESPN soon and will talk about Carmelo apparently.

ESPN? ESPN 2? ESPN News?

Lol my bad...ESPN radio. I have "Carmelo" opened up in a realtime google search...just came up lol.

@soby22, he has not been traded. Nobody knows where he is going...all we know is where he wants to go and he has voided two trades with the Nets by not signing the extension already.

[soby22]

steve kerr right now talking about melo on espnradio.com

[AllanHoustonFan]

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[NBA Fan 1234]

@captain subtext - If he's spoiled, and has his mind set on NY like everyone reported and is reporting, wouldn't that help us? Nobody is going to change his mind because he wants what he wants.

He wants the money, New York and a contending team.

What he can have:

a) New York and a contending team (sign as a free agent)
b) New York and the money (via trade with our assets gone)
c) New Jersey and the money (via trade with their assets gone)
d) Dallas and the money and a contending team.

There is no way he will get all of his wishes, and he will surely not choose the Knicks over money.

He wants to do what's best for his family also though...hasn't he said that before? Lala does not want to be in Texas...c'mon lol.

If he's as stubborn though as you think, he can wait until the trade deadline, at which point Denver will have no leverage and will take the Knicks offer.

[Pharmcat]

doesnt cuban own a tv channel?

he can give her opportunity there

[soby22]

great kerr saying.. " i dont think denver wants what knicks have to offer " : ( we know dat

[NBA Fan 1234]

Kerr doesn't think Orlando is better than Miami or Boston.

Being the Knicks/Nets - easier than being Orlando because it was similar to what happened in Phx - really good team, over cap, but not good enough to win title.

Orlando had to swing for the fences.

If Knicks/Nets - on way up, room for growth, less pressure from fanbase / more fun on the way up.

Person on W/Kerr says the NY is the smartest choice - D'Antoni/STAT

Kerr says - friends with Amar'e, great fit, knock down shooters, does NY have enough, says if Denver not taking NYs deal (shows he knows nothing about the Knicks picks lol...)

Mid-late first round picks are overrated.

[K_ick_God]

Did someone say that Ric Bucher heard that Melo might still wait it out till free agency?

Anyone hear this and/or have a link?

[delvec19]

Is there ANY chance that we are surprised by a Melo to the Knicks trade? Is it possible that Donnie could swing something out of nowhere? Even though all the rumors are saying otherwise.

[Pharmcat]

Is there ANY chance that we are surprised by a Melo to the Knicks trade? Is it possible that Donnie could swing something out of nowhere? Even though all the rumors are saying otherwise.

doubt it

the one thing here that we dont have is secrecy....everything is out there, whether its from melo's crew, sheridan, etc..i think the public will know where he is going ahead of time w/out a surprise

[Fat Kat]

doesnt cuban own a tv channel?

he can give her opportunity there

Are you searching for every possible reason for Melo not to come? Do you not tire of being wrong and ridiculed? Are you a Knick fan? Are you this miserable in real life?

[god shammgod]

Did someone say that Ric Bucher heard that Melo might still wait it out till free agency?

Anyone hear this and/or have a link?

someone posted that like a day or two ago, that he might prefer to wait so the knicks could be a stronger team when he comes.

[Tommy Udo 6]

Orlando can get Melo for JRich (who can only be traded alone).

Successful Trade Scenario
Congratulations on a successful trade.
Due to Denver and Orlando being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Denver and Orlando had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Trade ID #5779868

Denver Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -4.7 ppg, -3.9 rpg, and -1.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Jason Richardson
6-6 SG from Michigan State
19.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Carmelo Anthony
6-8 SF from Syracuse
24.0 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 3.2 apg in 35.2 minutes

Orlando Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +4.7 ppg, +3.9 rpg, and +1.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Carmelo Anthony
6-8 SF from Syracuse
24.0 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 3.2 apg in 35.2 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jason Richardson
6-6 SG from Michigan State
19.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.8 minutes

Are you saying hypothetically or are you implying that Denver would actually agree to this? JRich is a FA so there's quite a real possibilityt hey will have dealt Melo for nothing.

It has been speculated that Orlando is one of the teams willing to take on Melo as a rental. They would have to add draft picks or cash with JRich to make it attractive. While not the best possible offer that may be on the table, it is conceivable that Denver may do it if other deals fall through. Denver saves on Lux Tax (JRich makes less), they get cash, they get cap space next season, and they may get a pick or two.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Cuban says rumors are not true

"If [Berger] is going to make things up, the reporter should at least be honest enough to say he is making things up," Cuban said. "Not one grain of truth to anything he said.

http://dallas.sbnation.com/dallas-maver ... cks-rumors

Cuban - says what he wants lol...gotta love it.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Orlando can get Melo for JRich (who can only be traded alone).

Successful Trade Scenario
Congratulations on a successful trade.
Due to Denver and Orlando being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Denver and Orlando had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Trade ID #5779868

Denver Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -4.7 ppg, -3.9 rpg, and -1.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Jason Richardson
6-6 SG from Michigan State
19.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Carmelo Anthony
6-8 SF from Syracuse
24.0 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 3.2 apg in 35.2 minutes

Orlando Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +4.7 ppg, +3.9 rpg, and +1.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Carmelo Anthony
6-8 SF from Syracuse
24.0 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 3.2 apg in 35.2 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jason Richardson
6-6 SG from Michigan State
19.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 1.4 apg in 31.8 minutes

Are you saying hypothetically or are you implying that Denver would actually agree to this? JRich is a FA so there's quite a real possibilityt hey will have dealt Melo for nothing.

It has been speculated that Orlando is one of the teams willing to take on Melo as a rental. They would have to add draft picks or cash with JRich to make it attractive. While not the best possible offer that may be on the table, it is conceivable that Denver may do it if other deals fall through. Denver saves on Lux Tax (JRich makes less), they get cash, they get cap space next season, and they may get a pick or two.

I thought the Magic would be a team to watch even after the trade...from a talent perspective/picks perspective, they do not have what it takes to get him.

[Fat Kat]

Cuban says rumors are not true

"If [Berger] is going to make things up, the reporter should at least be honest enough to say he is making things up," Cuban said. "Not one grain of truth to anything he said.

http://dallas.sbnation.com/dallas-maver ... cks-rumors

Cuban - says what he wants lol...gotta love it.

[god shammgod]

Cuban says rumors are not true

"If [Berger] is going to make things up, the reporter should at least be honest enough to say he is making things up," Cuban said. "Not one grain of truth to anything he said.

http://dallas.sbnation.com/dallas-maver ... cks-rumors

Cuban - says what he wants lol...gotta love it.

i bet he's not making it up. somebody in denver's organization probably told him that. they're trying to create competition. maybe fool the nets into taking melo without an extension.