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2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2)

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2) 

Post#1741 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:03 pm

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Here comes the weaselly apologia..... run on $2k + unemployment then act like $1400 + unemployemnt = $2k is what was promised...... the establishment dem gaslighting continues. :lol:


They're rolling out a massive >trillion dollar relief bill, including provisions that will effectively cut child poverty in half. Not cutting $2000 checks with Biden's picture on them is a bit of a political own goal (if they don't actually do it), but there's a whole lot of money about to be thrown at people that will accomplish a lot of good things.


Just because you sniff establishment dem taint and enjoy it doesn't mean everyone else does. We'll see what gets done, not what people say about it.


Well sure, bills need to actually be put up for a vote and passed. But you seem to be complaining about stuff before it's even been put up for a vote, so I assumed pointing out what else was in the proposal might actually interest you.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2) 

Post#1742 » by stuporman » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:04 pm



I was kinda wondering if the most serious charges on these people were going to wait until after Biden is in so Trump can't make a list of people involved and pardon to protect his 'patriots' from the evil radical left deep state satan worshiping lizard aliens.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2) 

Post#1743 » by cgmw » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:07 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Prosecutors are now starting to issue the more serious indictments

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/capitol-rioters-meant-to-capture-and-assassinate-officials-court-filing-says_n_6001665ec5b697df1a04b141

Capitol Rioters Meant To ‘Capture And Assassinate’ Officials, Court Filing Says
The prosecutors’ assessment comes as prosecutors and federal agents have begun bringing more serious charges tied to violence at the Capitol.
Brad Heath and Sarah N. Lynch

WASHINGTON (Reuters) — Federal prosecutors offered an ominous new assessment of last week’s siege of the U.S. Capitol by President Donald Trump’s supporters on Thursday, saying in a court filing that rioters intended “to capture and assassinate elected officials.”

Prosecutors offered that view in a filing asking a judge to detain Jacob Chansley, the Arizona man and QAnon conspiracy theorist who was famously photographed wearing horns as he stood at the desk of Vice President Mike Pence in the chamber of the U.S. Senate.

The detention memo, written by Justice Department lawyers in Arizona, goes into greater detail about the FBI’s investigation into Chansley, revealing that he left a note for Pence warning that “it’s only a matter of time, justice is coming.”

“Strong evidence, including Chansley’s own words and actions at the Capitol, supports that the intent of the Capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials in the United States government,” prosecutors wrote.

A public defender representing Chansley could not be immediately reached for comment. Chansley is due to appear in federal court on Friday.

The prosecutors’ assessment comes as prosecutors and federal agents have begun bringing more serious charges tied to violence at the Capitol, including revealing cases Thursday against one man, retired firefighter Robert Sanford, on charges that he hurled a fire extinguisher at the head of one police officer and another, Peter Stager, of beating a different officer with a pole bearing an American flag.

In Chansley’s case, prosecutors said the charges “involve active participation in an insurrection attempting to violently overthrow the United States government,” and warned that “the insurrection is still in progress” as law enforcement prepares for more demonstrations in Washington and state capitals.

They also suggested he suffers from drug abuse and mental illness, and told the judge he poses a serious flight risk.

“Chansley has spoken openly about his belief that he is an alien, a higher being, and he is here on Earth to ascend to another reality,” they wrote.

The Justice Department has brought more than 80 criminal cases in connection with the violent riots at the U.S. Capitol last week, in which Trump’s supporters stormed the building, ransacked offices and in some cases, attacked police.

Many of the people charged so far were easily tracked down by the FBI, which has more than 200 suspects, thanks in large part to videos and photos posted on social media.

Michael Sherwin, the Acting U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, has said that while many of the initial charges may seem minor, he expects much more serious charges to be filed as the Justice Department continues its investigation.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2) 

Post#1744 » by stuporman » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:12 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
stuporman wrote:
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They're rolling out a massive >trillion dollar relief bill, including provisions that will effectively cut child poverty in half. Not cutting $2000 checks with Biden's picture on them is a bit of a political own goal (if they don't actually do it), but there's a whole lot of money about to be thrown at people that will accomplish a lot of good things.


Just because you sniff establishment dem taint and enjoy it doesn't mean everyone else does. We'll see what gets done, not what people say about it.


Well sure, bills need to actually be put up for a vote and passed. But you seem to be complaining about stuff before it's even been put up for a vote, so I assumed pointing out what else was in the proposal might actually interest you.


Again... let's see what happens, not what is said about it.

We'll will find out what the actual bill that goes up for vote is all about and what eventually gets passed, if anything. There is no guarantee that this is the final bill passed or even if something does get passed, dems are experts at doing little to nothing and shrugging it off.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2) 

Post#1745 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:15 pm

stuporman wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:
stuporman wrote:
Just because you sniff establishment dem taint and enjoy it doesn't mean everyone else does. We'll see what gets done, not what people say about it.


Well sure, bills need to actually be put up for a vote and passed. But you seem to be complaining about stuff before it's even been put up for a vote, so I assumed pointing out what else was in the proposal might actually interest you.


Again... let's see what happens, not what is said about it.

We'll will find out what the actual bill that goes up for vote is all about and what eventually gets passed, if anything. There is no guarantee that this is the final bill passed or even if something does get passed, dems are experts at doing little to nothing and shrugging it off.


I think they're going about it the wrong way, in that the initial push seems to be for regular order that's going to require 10 Republicans to sign on, which just isn't going to happen for a 2 trillion dollar bill. Definitely need to break everything out piecemeal and get majority votes where you can. I think almost everything except the fed minimum wage increase can be pushed through that way. So it's just about convincing Joe Manchin or whoever.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2) 

Post#1746 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:16 pm

cgmw wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Prosecutors are now starting to issue the more serious indictments

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/capitol-rioters-meant-to-capture-and-assassinate-officials-court-filing-says_n_6001665ec5b697df1a04b141

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Capitol Rioters Meant To ‘Capture And Assassinate’ Officials, Court Filing Says
The prosecutors’ assessment comes as prosecutors and federal agents have begun bringing more serious charges tied to violence at the Capitol.
Brad Heath and Sarah N. Lynch

WASHINGTON (Reuters) — Federal prosecutors offered an ominous new assessment of last week’s siege of the U.S. Capitol by President Donald Trump’s supporters on Thursday, saying in a court filing that rioters intended “to capture and assassinate elected officials.”

Prosecutors offered that view in a filing asking a judge to detain Jacob Chansley, the Arizona man and QAnon conspiracy theorist who was famously photographed wearing horns as he stood at the desk of Vice President Mike Pence in the chamber of the U.S. Senate.

The detention memo, written by Justice Department lawyers in Arizona, goes into greater detail about the FBI’s investigation into Chansley, revealing that he left a note for Pence warning that “it’s only a matter of time, justice is coming.”

“Strong evidence, including Chansley’s own words and actions at the Capitol, supports that the intent of the Capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials in the United States government,” prosecutors wrote.

A public defender representing Chansley could not be immediately reached for comment. Chansley is due to appear in federal court on Friday.

The prosecutors’ assessment comes as prosecutors and federal agents have begun bringing more serious charges tied to violence at the Capitol, including revealing cases Thursday against one man, retired firefighter Robert Sanford, on charges that he hurled a fire extinguisher at the head of one police officer and another, Peter Stager, of beating a different officer with a pole bearing an American flag.

In Chansley’s case, prosecutors said the charges “involve active participation in an insurrection attempting to violently overthrow the United States government,” and warned that “the insurrection is still in progress” as law enforcement prepares for more demonstrations in Washington and state capitals.

They also suggested he suffers from drug abuse and mental illness, and told the judge he poses a serious flight risk.

“Chansley has spoken openly about his belief that he is an alien, a higher being, and he is here on Earth to ascend to another reality,” they wrote.

The Justice Department has brought more than 80 criminal cases in connection with the violent riots at the U.S. Capitol last week, in which Trump’s supporters stormed the building, ransacked offices and in some cases, attacked police.

Many of the people charged so far were easily tracked down by the FBI, which has more than 200 suspects, thanks in large part to videos and photos posted on social media.

Michael Sherwin, the Acting U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, has said that while many of the initial charges may seem minor, he expects much more serious charges to be filed as the Justice Department continues its investigation.



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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2) 

Post#1747 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:18 pm

stuporman wrote:


I was kinda wondering if the most serious charges on these people were going to wait until after Biden is in so Trump can't make a list of people involved and pardon to protect his 'patriots' from the evil radical left deep state satan worshiping lizard aliens.


Trump will issue "preemptive" pardons just in case. :lol:
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2) 

Post#1748 » by E-Balla » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:26 pm

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Post#1749 » by Kampuchea » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:40 pm

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There has. It would have to be a very heavy prison sentence.


If no death penalty, then sterilization then


Kampuchea got me in a time of weakness. Fck these traitors. We shouldn't have to live in fear from these lunatics and all their weaponry. We have a big mental health problem here that has been left untreated due to stigma and other repercussions. We sell military style guns to any yahoo with the money to buy it pretty much unchecked.

From this point forward, any further attempts at insurrection should be met with the ultimate sanction. These people need to be put in check. Perhaps they need their Negan lineup moment to get their minds right.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2) 

Post#1750 » by BKlutch » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:49 pm

EricAnderson wrote:What I don’t get is how these people getting arrested or in trouble for storming the Capitol there reactions as they’re getting arrested is shock like they stole towels from a hotel..

Did they have no idea about the consequences? Did Trump make these people feel untouchable?

Did they expect to be National heroes cheered on by most Americans for what they did?

In their delusional, psychotic universe, BLM protesters require SWAT teams and a militarized response, while they see themselves as protecting the country from ... all the rest of us?

This sickness need to be treated in the only way that works: find them and make them suffer the fullest consequences under law.

Who here objects to this?
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Post#1751 » by fleet » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:09 pm

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Post#1752 » by K_ick_God » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:41 pm

I feel like I know how Trump's mind works, and therefore I am suspicious if as CNN reports he is asking for a military sendoff. With him defiance and hinting at things symbolically are always front and center.

Getting a military sendoff seems to evoke images of armed revolution with him as the leader of such a thing, and of Trump commanding troops or perhaps a detachment of troops that backs his efforts to retain or regain power with arms.

Also he does love pageantry, admittedly. But even if his motives are simply ego and ceremony, he should not get any kind of symbol of the military or weaponry on his way out the door. Not at this time, not when he caused what he caused.
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Post#1753 » by Capn'O » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:47 pm

I think he deserves a military sendoff but probably not the one he has in mind.
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Post#1754 » by robillionaire » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:00 pm

E-Balla wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
E-Balla wrote:Ah yes the adults that put us in this exact situation are returning. Yay?


Anyone against treason is on my side

My side is with anyone against perpetuating the system that led us here in the first place.


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Post#1755 » by K_ick_God » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:10 pm

Capn'O wrote:I think he deserves a military sendoff but probably not the one he has in mind.


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Post#1756 » by ellobo » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:08 pm

Capn'O wrote:Yoinked from the CA board.

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OMG FUNNY!!!

It's funny if you don't know Spanish (me).

If you do (my wife), it's just a stupid story about some pans...
Just because it happened to you, doesn't make it interesting.

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Post#1757 » by Capn'O » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:11 pm

ellobo wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Yoinked from the CA board.

;feature=youtu.be

OMG FUNNY!!!

It's funny if you don't know Spanish (me).

If you do (my wife), it's just a stupid story about some pans...


You're not lying. I looked up the original with subtitles last night. The story wasn't funny at all!
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Post#1758 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:29 pm

fleet wrote:Mama and daughter will be in prison soon
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The Boebert needs to be put on some kind of administrative leave that keeps her out of the Capitol; she needs to have her firearms confiscated through whatever legal process exists for that purpose; and then, after the prosecutors and FBI agents acquire the necessary evidence (which I have no doubt exists), she and her POS mother need to be indicted for conspiracy to commit insurrection against the U.S. government.
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Post#1759 » by 8516knicks » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:07 pm

:lol: "Jacob Chansley, the Arizona man and QAnon conspiracy theorist who was famously photographed wearing horns as he stood at the desk of Vice President Mike Pence..." I thought it was Ted Nugent. My bad. :nod:
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