Knicks Get Reddish per Woj

[John Murdoch]

90 pages for reddish...holyy

[Iron Mantis]

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This is what the FO is waiting for. One more early exit and he can ask out easily

He's from Elmsford, we got it in the bag

Never underestimate Pat the Rat...

[Jeffrey]

I'm not sure how Heat would do it but Pat is a genius.

Herro, Robinson and Tucker and FRPs for Mitchell??

[DickGrayson]

Cam shot 52% FG 64% 3pt against MIL on 13 points as a 21 year old in the playoffs. His jumpshot has greatly improved. I don't have a scouting on his defense, but it has to be miles ahead of bitchass Randle.

[knickstape4ever]

Should have hired Atkinson

yes we should have. Thibs ain't the right coach for a team w/ talent mostly under the age of 23. not a knock on Thibs, he's a great coach, but not the ideal situation for him or the team

Kenny would've been great. he'd have so much more young talent to work w/ here than he did in Brooklyn

my dream scenario is that we sell Randle, Burks, Fournier, Kemba, Rose, Noel...play the youth the rest of the way...and then after the season Thibs and the Knicks "mutually part ways"...he takes the Lakers job and we get Kenny

You serious? Thibs has developed more young players here than all the other Knicks coaches combined have in 10 years.

RJ, IQ, Grimes, Mitch, Obi, Sims, Deuce all look like legit players under Thibs. Even Knox looked better

Who did Kenny develop? D'Angelo Russell and Caris Levert who Twolves/Pacers fans can’t wait to get rid of or Jarret Allen who is finally playing his best basketball after being traded to the Cavs.

-You can make the argument that RJ and IQ regressed this year (yes, I know RJ has balled the past 5ish games)

-Grimes is solid but you think Thibs is the reason his jumper is wet? nah, that why we drafted him

-Mitch is the pretty much the same player he was his rookie year

-Obi can't crack more than 15mpg as a #8 pick

-McBride has always been a defensive pest and rn he's shooting under 30%

-Sims is the same player he was in college: rebounds and dunks

Kenny did an amazing job in Brooklyn. that roster was a bunch of cast-offs and no-names that he improved every year. guys like Joe Harris, Spencer Dinwiddie....those were G-league players before Kenny and now they are solid, well-paid NBA starters

[whocares1]

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thibs making it seem like he won't crack the rotation and grimes will be out of it too

He basically telling Leon to make another trade.

He must be. Why would the FO ask RJ about Cam but not even ensure that he’d even have a spot in Thibs’ rotation? Especially trading for a player that complained about lack of playing time, and lack of role in the offense.

[blueNorange]

another trade is definitely happening, thibs likes grimes but there’s too many cooks in the kitchen

sadly brogdan can’t be traded so there’s no chance of a turner/brogdan package of happening

i still think turner is a knick, the front office wants him

[j4remi]

This FO has been pretty conservative. You've gotta seriously overvalue the one lottery protected first-round pick they traded to even make a case that they take risks. Not every move they've made has worked out, but I don't see them blowing up the asset chest for Turner or Fox.

Most likely, they'll do what they did here. Draw a line in the sand at a certain offer and move on if it fails. The Hawks wanted Grimes and got turned down. The Athletic's got a piece that says they were looking for something closer to 10 where they got Cam. No dice on either fronts, so the Knicks got Reddish at a price they were willing to pay.

If they trade for Fox or Turner...it'll be a similar scenario. I'm not particularly fond of cornering the market on scoring lefties that can't shoot consistently and Turner made a lot more sense to me before Mitch got his groove back these past couple of weeks. But I'm not sweating either trade because I figure it'll be reasonable and take a lot of reaches to turn into something more negative than it is. Just like this deal which is most likely to be inconsequential in both directions but had 82 pages and running of back and forth. God I love Knicks fans.

I guess my concern would be lets say we can get Turner and Fox for "reasonable prices". But I'm not saying both are awful players. That can help in there specific vacuum.

But lets say we do move some combination of players to land a lineup of.

Fox
Reddish
RJ
Randle
Turner

is it better then what we currently have? Yes

Assuming a decent amount of assets for the group (Obi, Grimes, IQ, maybe some draft capital) go in a trade for those guys.

What is the limit for that lineup above? 2nd round best?

Wouldn't you just rather be OKC or ORL at that point and have some higher potential rookies and maybe hit a homerun in the lottery?

I don't think they'd move all three of those promising young players. They'd part with draft capital and keep at least one (fingers crossed for two). I think how far that team can go depends on RJ and Reddish's development, and how much of the bench unit is left behind. I don't think these guys would blow up everything for that starting five.

[Clyde_Style]

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Voodoo Donuts is in downtown Portland

Zion is in Portland

Destiny

There are several locations including one about a mile from our house if he wants to be slick.

That's close enough for you to feel the earth shake

[Fat]

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This is what the FO is waiting for. One more early exit and he can ask out easily

Crazy how much we miss in the lottery

[thebuzzardman]

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This is what the FO is waiting for. One more early exit and he can ask out easily

Looks like Miami will have that nice Donovan Mitchell/Bam duo for the next 10 years

[thebuzzardman]

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This is what the FO is waiting for. One more early exit and he can ask out easily

He's from Elmsford, we got it in the bag

More like holding the empty bag

[cgmw]

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thibs making it seem like he won't crack the rotation and grimes will be out of it too

He basically telling Leon to make another trade.

He must be. Why would the FO ask RJ about Cam but not even ensure that he’d even have a spot in Thibs’ rotation? Especially trading for a player that complained about lack of playing time, and lack of role in the offense.

Maybe it’s just another power play to convince management/ownership that it’s okay to bench Kemba.

Thibs sure as sh*t ain’t benching DRose or Burks. Luckily, I don’t think this squad ever gets to full health. If no more trades, I think Thibs rolls with:

Mitch/Noel (Taj)
Randle/Obi
RJ/Cam
Fournier/IQ
Burks/Rose

“Situational”—Kemba and Grimes.

If Dolan forces Kemba, I bet Thibs benches Cam out of spite.

[Capn'O]

Voodoo Donuts is in downtown Portland

Zion is in Portland

Destiny

There are several locations including one about a mile from our house if he wants to be slick.

That's close enough for you to feel the earth shake

That's what I'll tell the Little 'Os anyway. "That's just the mythical giant Zion passing through."

[Capn'O]

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This is what the FO is waiting for. One more early exit and he can ask out easily

Crazy how much we miss in the lottery

They legit need to hire you and Hezi.

[Ray Williams]

Leon Rose has to pull a Billy Beane, Thibs acting like that loser Art Howe.

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[K_ick_God]

I'm betting dollars to Portland doughnuts that Thibs loves Cam. He gave the same weird answers on Mitch and it was his attempt to motivate Mitch. When he's drooling over someone's game and talent, but thinks they're immature, this is what he does. Cam main piece incoming.

[DowNY]

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This is what the FO is waiting for. One more early exit and he can ask out easily

Didn't he recently just sign? This will be the same situation as Ben Simmons and I think he will cost more than Simmons.

He’s shown no softness , mental lapses, he’s actually playing and he’s a better player than Simmons….so yeah…he will cost more

[evevale]

90 pages for reddish...holyy

we're bored ok?

[BugginOut]

yes we should have. Thibs ain't the right coach for a team w/ talent mostly under the age of 23. not a knock on Thibs, he's a great coach, but not the ideal situation for him or the team

Kenny would've been great. he'd have so much more young talent to work w/ here than he did in Brooklyn

my dream scenario is that we sell Randle, Burks, Fournier, Kemba, Rose, Noel...play the youth the rest of the way...and then after the season Thibs and the Knicks "mutually part ways"...he takes the Lakers job and we get Kenny

You serious? Thibs has developed more young players here than all the other Knicks coaches combined have in 10 years.

RJ, IQ, Grimes, Mitch, Obi, Sims, Deuce all look like legit players under Thibs. Even Knox looked better

Who did Kenny develop? D'Angelo Russell and Caris Levert who Twolves/Pacers fans can’t wait to get rid of or Jarret Allen who is finally playing his best basketball after being traded to the Cavs.

-You can make the argument that RJ and IQ regressed this year (yes, I know RJ has balled the past 5ish games)

-Grimes is solid but you think Thibs is the reason his jumper is wet? nah, that why we drafted him

-Mitch is the pretty much the same player he was his rookie year

-Obi can't crack more than 15mpg as a #8 pick

-McBride has always been a defensive pest and rn he's shooting under 30%

-Sims is the same player he was in college: rebounds and dunks

Kenny did an amazing job in Brooklyn. that roster was a bunch of cast-offs and no-names that he improved every year. guys like Joe Harris, Spencer Dinwiddie....those were G-league players before Kenny and now they are solid, well-paid NBA starters

And with all that talent they barely made the 8th seed in the weak East

I don’t agree with your notion that RJ and IQ have regressed. Though their shooting numbers are down they are clearly better players than last year.

Obi is being used optimally by Thibs. And more than 20 minutes and his impact is diminished.

Grimes, Deuce and Sims were all projected 2nd round picks. The reason they are playing well is because Thibs let’s them know their role and puts them in a position to succeed. The training staff worked with them all summer. You can see the improvement from Sims from preseason to his first regular season game. It’s night and day

If you giving Kenny all that credit than you should also give credit to Thibs for making Randle 2nd team All-NBA, since both Dinwiddie and Harris have been terrible as well this year.

If Kenny was a good coach he’d still be coaching. There is no chance he would do a better job with this roster than Thibs has.