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Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4

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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1741 » by El Poochio » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:53 pm

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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1742 » by El Poochio » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:54 pm

Only thing bad in Mitchell calling the shots is he probably advocated for Brunson signing since he got cooked by him
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1743 » by Spree2Houston » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:01 pm

Damn Mitchell doesn't want Randle here lmaoo
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1744 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:01 pm

Playing with Lebron would be the best thing that could ever happen to Randle. He needs that alpha to guide him.

Make it happen Leon
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1745 » by Chanel Bomber » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:06 pm

The Knicks are too far away from contending for a championship.

If they could just become respectable in the eyes of NBA players - and the players who will enter the league in the years to come - for an extended stretch by playing good basketball and by making the playoffs a few years in a row, it will be a positive development for this franchise.

The Knicks have been a joke for far too long. They are the cultural symbol of losing. They need to shed that.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1746 » by stuporman » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:07 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:I just don't understand why they would sign Brunson if they knew they were going to go after Mitchell. It baffles me. And it makes me wonder if Brunson even cares that that move will move him back off the ball as much as playing with Luka did. Maybe he really only did care about making his money and nothing else.


'Knowing that you're going after' a player on another team under contract for years isn't guaranteed anything so why not get the guy who's right there in front of you, just came off a conference finals run in which he was a major reason they got there instead of hope and pray you can get someone maybe...possibly if everything goes just right.

I think the idea that Brunson wanted a larger role is overblown, Brunson is a winner, he wants to win and will do whatever is needed for him to help the team win. Of course, that makes you wonder why he'd leave Dallas and Luka for NYK then.... that's the money angle and then there's the familia angle which may be the strongest of them all.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1747 » by TrueWarrior » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:08 pm

The Wahhndle for Westbrick trade always seemed like destiny if we actually wanted to trade Julius.

Ill believe it when I see it tho. Everything still points to Julius staying, at least for a while to recoup some value.

Thing is I dont see Julius’ value going up much here compared to many of our other players, unless he completely changes his game and attitude. May as well just get rid of him now then to play Obi more, who already has the type of off-ball game and team attitude needed.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1748 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:08 pm

When RR is Team Randle you know that's a losing side.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1749 » by Enzo954 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:08 pm

Randle thinks this is his team and he's way too arrogant to let that go. Mitchell and him would not mesh well.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1750 » by Kampuchea » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:10 pm

Bring in Mitchell to improve the team and trade away Randle making the team worse? We’re making lateral moves now?
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1751 » by rajajackal » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:12 pm

Kampuchea wrote:Bring in Mitchell to improve the team and trade away Randle making the team worse? We’re making lateral moves now?

randle is not a fit with a ball dominant backcourt
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1752 » by Kampuchea » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:13 pm

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Kampuchea wrote:Bring in Mitchell to improve the team and trade away Randle making the team worse? We’re making lateral moves now?

randle is not a fit with a ball dominant backcourt


Yes he is, he will thrive with open threes spacing the floor
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1753 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:14 pm

Kampuchea wrote:Bring in Mitchell to improve the team and trade away Randle making the team worse? We’re making lateral moves now?


You and Melo are the only two people who don't understand why removing Randle is a plus
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1754 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:14 pm

Kampuchea wrote:Bring in Mitchell to improve the team and trade away Randle making the team worse? We’re making lateral moves now?


Mitchell doesn't want to play with Randle. Can't blame him. He saw him meltdown in person.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1755 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:17 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:The Wahhndle for Westbrick trade always seemed like destiny if we actually wanted to trade Julius.

Ill believe it when I see it tho. Everything still points to Julius staying, at least for a while to recoup some value.

Thing is I dont see Julius’ value going up much here compared to many of our other players, unless he completely changes his game and attitude. May as well just get rid of him now then to play Obi more, who already has the type of off-ball game and team attitude needed.


Randle is a Dolan favorite, can't see him going anywhere.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1756 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:17 pm

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Kampuchea wrote:Bring in Mitchell to improve the team and trade away Randle making the team worse? We’re making lateral moves now?

randle is not a fit with a ball dominant backcourt


Yes he is, he will thrive with open threes spacing the floor



What?


He's going to do the same thing with them that he's done with everyone else, he's going to try and play a two man game with whoever has the ball at the time. He'll do DHO, then post up taking away any driving lane either could have, he'll do DHO and with so little time on the clock they have to shoot, and he'll set screens hoping he gets the ball back and never actually rolling to the rim.

This backcourt will need a "Go stand in the corner" player at the 4 more than anything else.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1757 » by stuporman » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:17 pm

mpharris36 wrote:man if leon can trade for mitch for 5-6 1sts and then get back 2 1sts from the lakers for Randle that would be some nice swindling


Not to mention after turning this draft's #11 into three 1sts and the cap space to sign Brunson. So Mitchell would only really cost them 2-3 1sts while also dumping Randle/Fournier plus adding Brunson/Hart.

If that is the Knicks off season there are very few fans or media that could justifiably criticize Rose especially if they were able to keep their youth, like RJ, Obi and IQ.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1758 » by rajajackal » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:18 pm

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Kampuchea wrote:Bring in Mitchell to improve the team and trade away Randle making the team worse? We’re making lateral moves now?

randle is not a fit with a ball dominant backcourt


Yes he is, he will thrive with open threes spacing the floor

historically he is not, and you don't need to be paying randle of all people to hit open 3's
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1759 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:18 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:man if leon can trade for mitch for 5-6 1sts and then get back 2 1sts from the lakers for Randle that would be some nice swindling


Not to mention after turning this draft's #11 into three 1sts and the cap space to sign Brunson. So Mitchell would only really cost them 2-3 1sts while also dumping Randle/Fournier plus adding Brunson/Hart.

If that is the Knicks off season there are very few fans or media that could justifiably criticize Rose especially if they were able to keep their youth, like RJ, Obi and IQ.


not exactly...the picks we got probably aren't going in the Mitchell trade.

It will be our own picks. Not every pick is created equal.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4 

Post#1760 » by TrueWarrior » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:19 pm

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Kampuchea wrote:Bring in Mitchell to improve the team and trade away Randle making the team worse? We’re making lateral moves now?


Mitchell doesn't want to play with Randle. Can't blame him. He saw him meltdown in person.




Idk how some posters can watch him act like this all season and still stick up for him. Gotta be trollin like Melo says he is when his mask slips. He wasnt just terrible on the court outside his counting stats, but hes toxic as chit.

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