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HarthorneWingo wrote:Time to tank. Rodgers will be gone. Can we trade him for picks?
thebuzzardman wrote:LOL. Did not watch. Only fools would watch this team this year. Well, really most any year.
j4remi wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Time to tank. Rodgers will be gone. Can we trade him for picks?
Trade deadline was last week, but it's definitely time to tank and improve the picks we have. The danger now is if Joe Douglas is out to save his job, he may chase useless wins. I'd be calling up Adrian Martinez to train with Rodgers, and start giving other young guys with a pulse opportunities.
HarthorneWingo wrote:j4remi wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Time to tank. Rodgers will be gone. Can we trade him for picks?
Trade deadline was last week, but it's definitely time to tank and improve the picks we have. The danger now is if Joe Douglas is out to save his job, he may chase useless wins. I'd be calling up Adrian Martinez to train with Rodgers, and start giving other young guys with a pulse opportunities.
Rodgers' contract expires at the end of this season? If so, we should start a list of potential QBs, trade targets, and draft big board. But with Woody in charge, is there really any hope?
8516knicks wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:j4remi wrote:
Trade deadline was last week, but it's definitely time to tank and improve the picks we have. The danger now is if Joe Douglas is out to save his job, he may chase useless wins. I'd be calling up Adrian Martinez to train with Rodgers, and start giving other young guys with a pulse opportunities.
Rodgers' contract expires at the end of this season? If so, we should start a list of potential QBs, trade targets, and draft big board. But with Woody in charge, is there really any hope?
I'd like to see them have the guts to bench Rogers, at least for one game. See if his virtual takeover of the franchise cast a pall over the entire team's mental state and contributed to the sharp decline of what had been a good defensive team.
With Rogers not throwing passes over 15 yards and being 41 or so, his looming return next year has to be depressing - like the pre-Leo Knicks.
j4remi wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Time to tank. Rodgers will be gone. Can we trade him for picks?
Trade deadline was last week, but it's definitely time to tank and improve the picks we have. The danger now is if Joe Douglas is out to save his job, he may chase useless wins. I'd be calling up Adrian Martinez to train with Rodgers, and start giving other young guys with a pulse opportunities.
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Is he under contract for next season? If so, we have to trade him and recoup whatever we can. Trade him to a playoff contending team that needs an experienced backup.
HarthorneWingo wrote:j4remi wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Time to tank. Rodgers will be gone. Can we trade him for picks?
Trade deadline was last week, but it's definitely time to tank and improve the picks we have. The danger now is if Joe Douglas is out to save his job, he may chase useless wins. I'd be calling up Adrian Martinez to train with Rodgers, and start giving other young guys with a pulse opportunities.
Rodgers' contract expires at the end of this season? If so, we should start a list of potential QBs, trade targets, and draft big board. But with Woody in charge, is there really any hope?
Luv those Knicks wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
Is he under contract for next season? If so, we have to trade him and recoup whatever we can. Trade him to a playoff contending team that needs an experienced backup.
Maybe some cap experts will chime in, but Rodgers is under contract, with an option for the team to release him for 2025.
He's owed 2.5 million, with a 35 million roster bonus, so, if NY adds him to the roster, he eats 35 million in cap space and they can trade him. If they don't add him to the roster, he gets paid 2.5 million to leave the team and become a free agent.
Off hand, I'd guess they release him.
or Travis proves he's that guy hopefully.
j4remi wrote:Luv those Knicks wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
Is he under contract for next season? If so, we have to trade him and recoup whatever we can. Trade him to a playoff contending team that needs an experienced backup.
Maybe some cap experts will chime in, but Rodgers is under contract, with an option for the team to release him for 2025.
He's owed 2.5 million, with a 35 million roster bonus, so, if NY adds him to the roster, he eats 35 million in cap space and they can trade him. If they don't add him to the roster, he gets paid 2.5 million to leave the team and become a free agent.
Off hand, I'd guess they release him.
Yeah, the good news about their one year vets is they should be able to line up a few compensatory picks for letting them walk. That won't help this season, but it'll make next season a great time for a GM to rebuild.
For the QB thing, I wouldn't be mad at re-signing Tyrod Taylor to be a bridge QB while Jordan Travis is the backup (who will likely get opportunities since Taylor is injury prone). Then depending on how the FO feels about Travis, they'd be back in the draft looking for the QB of the future
The big offseason question is gonna be about the talented young guys with contracts expiring soon; ie: Hall, Wilson, Sauce, etc.
thebuzzardman wrote:Might as well trade Hall and Wilson now. Hall for sure will be washed up by the time the Jets are good. Running backs only last 4 or 5 years.
Wilson is probably looking to leave anyway. I mean, if he was sane, he would be. So trade him now while they can get value.
I'd trade everyone. Including Q. What's the point of keeping them? Jets are 5 years away from being good. If they were a normal team. So, make that 10 or never, since Jets.
j4remi wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Might as well trade Hall and Wilson now. Hall for sure will be washed up by the time the Jets are good. Running backs only last 4 or 5 years.
Wilson is probably looking to leave anyway. I mean, if he was sane, he would be. So trade him now while they can get value.
I'd trade everyone. Including Q. What's the point of keeping them? Jets are 5 years away from being good. If they were a normal team. So, make that 10 or never, since Jets.
I'm honestly not opposed. I'd keep the young O-Line guys (Tippman, AVT, and Fashanu) and Will MacDonald. Everyone else could go for the right price.
Just bring in a new GM and give him picks to work with and a cap situation that isn't crippling, is all I ask.
thebuzzardman wrote:j4remi wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Might as well trade Hall and Wilson now. Hall for sure will be washed up by the time the Jets are good. Running backs only last 4 or 5 years.
Wilson is probably looking to leave anyway. I mean, if he was sane, he would be. So trade him now while they can get value.
I'd trade everyone. Including Q. What's the point of keeping them? Jets are 5 years away from being good. If they were a normal team. So, make that 10 or never, since Jets.
I'm honestly not opposed. I'd keep the young O-Line guys (Tippman, AVT, and Fashanu) and Will MacDonald. Everyone else could go for the right price.
Just bring in a new GM and give him picks to work with and a cap situation that isn't crippling, is all I ask.
The trouble is that Woody Johnson will search high and low for the sh*tiest GM and then hire that guy.
8516knicks wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:j4remi wrote:
I'm honestly not opposed. I'd keep the young O-Line guys (Tippman, AVT, and Fashanu) and Will MacDonald. Everyone else could go for the right price.
Just bring in a new GM and give him picks to work with and a cap situation that isn't crippling, is all I ask.
The trouble is that Woody Johnson will search high and low for the sh*tiest GM and then hire that guy.
Nope - just LOW.
j4remi wrote:8516knicks wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
The trouble is that Woody Johnson will search high and low for the sh*tiest GM and then hire that guy.
Nope - just LOW.
Hopefully Woody's too busy with an ambassador role to handle this hiring search. His brother wasn't much better, but anything beats Woody. I'll die on the hill that he's a worse owner than Dolan.
