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moocow007 wrote:
Again, I'm no fan of this deal but considering that offense tend to get paid, as is health and youthful production, it's in the same eye popping (potentially mind numbing) range as both Snell and Johnson's contracts IMO. Maybe a tad worse, but not so much more awful than those contracts that it needs to go epic.
Triple C wrote:At least THJ defense still better than DSJ and Monk that y'all wanted
PeoplesChamp wrote:Don't let the media trolls get you too down. It's a pricey deal, but, it's not as bad as they're making it out to be.
IllmaticHandler wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:IllmaticHandler wrote:
Step your game up fam. Get that apple music.
Hell naw
I get Spotify for 5 dollars a month lol
You a student. You can get apple music for like the same amount with the discount.
Billy Goat wrote:JM88 wrote:Billy Goat wrote:You let the same exact player in Holiday walk for nothing and give Hardaway 71 million plus the poison pill. Sounds like the Knicks.
Holiday was cheaper than i expected. I like him, and i do think he was worth signing at that contract. But consider them 'the exact same player' is WAY off. Holiday is a better defender than Hardaway, but he is nowhere near close the same player. Atlanta often looked for getting the ball to Hardaway when big shots was needed. His ball handling has improved to the degree, where he was often the player to take the ball up the court. And he had 23 games of more than 20 points. Holiday was ever gonna be that guy offensively. Hardaway even shot more effeciently this past season, despite often being needed to create his own shot.
I can understand if Hardaway seems overpaid, but there is no comparison to Holiday. There is a legit chance that Hardaway will become a 20 PPG player on fairly good shooting percentage.
Can we please stop using PPG as a metric that correlates to anything.
god shammgod wrote:we were so close. we were so close to not doing anything stupid. they must have really wanted dion and missed out so they did this.
congratulations. with this signing you won't be able to build around kp until after you pay him.
El Poochio wrote:god shammgod wrote:at least we know he won't stop the tank. i need a second team though. i think i'm gonna be an okc or houston fan this year. this franchise is diddy when it comes to stupidity. can't stop, won't stop. atl doesn't match and it's time for the steve mills edition of hoodwinked 2 electric boogaloo.
Sixers and Wolves
newyorker4ever wrote:mrcalzone wrote:Isn't Tim slightly responsible for us being in a position to draft KP? He heroballed us a few wins when we were trying to tank, which hurt the %s of getting the #1 pick and/or staying in the top 3. If we had lost their games, and kept the #3 pick was Phil still going to take Porzingis or take someone he saw as the consensus guy, Jahlil Okafor?
A few years ago THJ was getting the treatment that M.N'Dour is getting now on this board.
god shammgod wrote:we were so close. we were so close to not doing anything stupid. they must have really wanted dion and missed out so they did this.
congratulations. with this signing you won't be able to build around kp until after you pay him.
BeagleBoss wrote:I wake up to this bs?!!! Wtf!!!! Why is this franchise so dumb?!!!!
JM88 wrote:Billy Goat wrote:JM88 wrote:
Holiday was cheaper than i expected. I like him, and i do think he was worth signing at that contract. But consider them 'the exact same player' is WAY off. Holiday is a better defender than Hardaway, but he is nowhere near close the same player. Atlanta often looked for getting the ball to Hardaway when big shots was needed. His ball handling has improved to the degree, where he was often the player to take the ball up the court. And he had 23 games of more than 20 points. Holiday was ever gonna be that guy offensively. Hardaway even shot more effeciently this past season, despite often being needed to create his own shot.
I can understand if Hardaway seems overpaid, but there is no comparison to Holiday. There is a legit chance that Hardaway will become a 20 PPG player on fairly good shooting percentage.
Can we please stop using PPG as a metric that correlates to anything.
I am not saying that PPG is the indicator of how good a player is. You can easily remove my last statement, and still come to the conclusion, that the two players are very different players. I believe Hardaway is a much better, and valuable player than Holiday, but my main argument is really that outside of being wing players and somewhat comparable body type, there really isn't much comparable between the two. Hardaway has the skillset and mindset of being a legit offensive second or third option, Holiday has not.
god shammgod wrote:we were so close. we were so close to not doing anything stupid. they must have really wanted dion and missed out so they did this.
congratulations. with this signing you won't be able to build around kp until after you pay him.
seren wrote:Hardaway's best case scenario is Crawford. Even if he reaches that, it is at best a third guard off the bench level. Why lose all your flexibility and put yourself back to cap hell just for the next Crawford? Makes absolutely zero sense to me.
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BodyCount wrote:BeagleBoss wrote:I wake up to this bs?!!! Wtf!!!! Why is this franchise so dumb?!!!!
newyorker4ever wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:Timmy certainly has improved, but not this much. I don't see the Hawks matching this one, but I surely hope they do.
I'm starting to change my mind on if i want the Hawks to match this offer cause if they do then Mills could get even more desperate and go out and make an even worse move then this one.....FOR REAL.
El Poochio wrote:god shammgod wrote:we were so close. we were so close to not doing anything stupid. they must have really wanted dion and missed out so they did this.
congratulations. with this signing you won't be able to build around kp until after you pay him.
Frank
THJ
Damson
Bridges or Bonga
KP/Willy
Solid 5th seed in 2020s
