OT: Russia-Ukraine War

[Zenzibar]

So what’s his conclusion?

Neither side will be allowed to back down and an eventual global conflagration is looking inevitable.

This is a power/resource grab and an attack on the petrodollar. No one takes the last part serious but...I keep seeing smoke that these sanctions are stepping on our own dick and that's all about the reserve status of the dollar. It has been the driving force for the spread of democracy for decades IMO. I am no economist but...this is what I get from it all.

Russia is going to war with WMD like claims and who are we to say anything? China having Covid lockdowns that are disrupting the supply chain.

It's all a scary mess to me. The whole escalation POV that guy discusses is a discussion I came across back when Obama was in office. That the US economy/dollar was under attack and WW3 was inevitable. People thought it was crazy talk. I'm afraid it looks to be coming to fruition.

But...WTF do I know? I'm a Knicks fan.

Fantastic personal analysis Fam.

Many just regurgitate Twitter, CNN etc. but fail to take a step back and see what chess moves are being made. There is a part of the chess strategy when all you moves are exhausted and you drop your King. In this case, dropping your King means let's kiss ALL of our asses goodbye.

Russia will NOT submit and lost 80 million civilians in WW2 and no surrender. If Ukraine presses into Russia with border incursions, gloves come off and tomahawks will fly.
There are already some noise that members of Poland's special forces have been captured near Kyiv. This is already broadening.

You also brought up another interesting note. China was recently "punished" with more sanctions for working with Russia on that SWIFT equivalent.
What was the response as you eloquently mentioned a "Covid scare". Lockdowns that slowed production and exports. Who does that hurt? the U.S. and the West.

Who's backing down? Who will feel cornered? Who will drop their King in this global game of chess?

[Jalen Bluntson]

Neither side will be allowed to back down and an eventual global conflagration is looking inevitable.

This is a power/resource grab and an attack on the petrodollar. No one takes the last part serious but...I keep seeing smoke that these sanctions are stepping on our own dick and that's all about the reserve status of the dollar. It has been the driving force for the spread of democracy for decades IMO. I am no economist but...this is what I get from it all.

Russia is going to war with WMD like claims and who are we to say anything? China having Covid lockdowns that are disrupting the supply chain.

It's all a scary mess to me. The whole escalation POV that guy discusses is a discussion I came across back when Obama was in office. That the US economy/dollar was under attack and WW3 was inevitable. People thought it was crazy talk. I'm afraid it looks to be coming to fruition.

But...WTF do I know? I'm a Knicks fan.

Fantastic personal analysis Fam.

Many just regurgitate Twitter, CNN etc. but fail to take a step back and see what chess moves are being made. There is a part of the chess strategy when all you moves are exhausted and you drop your King. In this case, dropping your King means let's kiss ALL of our asses goodbye.

Russia will NOT submit and lost 80 million civilians in WW2 and no surrender. If Ukraine presses into Russia with border incursions, gloves come off and tomahawks will fly.
There are already some noise that members of Poland's special forces have been captured near Kyiv. This is already broadening.

You also brought up another interesting note. China was recently "punished" with more sanctions for working with Russia on that SWIFT equivalent.
What was the response as you eloquently mentioned a "Covid scare". Lockdowns that slowed production and exports. Who does that hurt? the U.S. and the West.

Who's backing down? Who will feel cornered? Who will drop their King in this global game of chess?

My mother had me watching presidential debates...when I was fresh out of diapers. Family owned service station with gas pumps for about 50 years. She ran it the last few. OPEC shortages in the 70s is where I grew up. She taught me all about the real world. The truth you didn't see. The petrodollar that most people aren't even aware of. Follow the money. That was her answer to everything political. Every war. Every law passed... etc. She was right.

Too many people get blinded by identity politics and patriotic rah rah speeches. They are clueless to what's really going on. The media is complicit in all of it too. Until something gets too big to ignore...they don't say shyt.

This is WW3 by proxy. Eventually... it's going to be a lot more death than the atrocities we are seeing now. It is scary as hell and can either side really step down at this point? This is bigger than Putin being a maniac and the US world police doing the right thing. That's just my humble opinion. People used to say all the tin foil hat jokes when I was warning them about this **** decades ago. Well lookie lookie here's a cookie.

[Gorilla Monsoon]

This is a power/resource grab and an attack on the petrodollar. No one takes the last part serious but...I keep seeing smoke that these sanctions are stepping on our own dick and that's all about the reserve status of the dollar. It has been the driving force for the spread of democracy for decades IMO. I am no economist but...this is what I get from it all.

Russia is going to war with WMD like claims and who are we to say anything? China having Covid lockdowns that are disrupting the supply chain.

It's all a scary mess to me. The whole escalation POV that guy discusses is a discussion I came across back when Obama was in office. That the US economy/dollar was under attack and WW3 was inevitable. People thought it was crazy talk. I'm afraid it looks to be coming to fruition.

But...WTF do I know? I'm a Knicks fan.

Fantastic personal analysis Fam.

Many just regurgitate Twitter, CNN etc. but fail to take a step back and see what chess moves are being made. There is a part of the chess strategy when all you moves are exhausted and you drop your King. In this case, dropping your King means let's kiss ALL of our asses goodbye.

Russia will NOT submit and lost 80 million civilians in WW2 and no surrender. If Ukraine presses into Russia with border incursions, gloves come off and tomahawks will fly.
There are already some noise that members of Poland's special forces have been captured near Kyiv. This is already broadening.

You also brought up another interesting note. China was recently "punished" with more sanctions for working with Russia on that SWIFT equivalent.
What was the response as you eloquently mentioned a "Covid scare". Lockdowns that slowed production and exports. Who does that hurt? the U.S. and the West.

Who's backing down? Who will feel cornered? Who will drop their King in this global game of chess?

My mother had me watching presidential debates...when I was fresh out of diapers. Family owned service station with gas pumps for about 50 years. She ran it the last few. OPEC shortages in the 70s is where I grew up. She taught me all about the real world. The truth you didn't see. The petrodollar that most people aren't even aware of. Follow the money. That was her answer to everything political. Every war. Every law passed... etc. She was right.

Too many people get blinded by identity politics and patriotic rah rah speeches. They are clueless to what's really going on. The media is complicit in all of it too. Until something gets too big to ignore...they don't say shyt.

This is WW3 by proxy. Eventually... it's going to be a lot more death than the atrocities we are seeing now. It is scary as hell and can either side really step down at this point? This is bigger than Putin being a maniac and the US world police doing the right thing. That's just my humble opinion. People used to say all the tin foil hat jokes when I was warning them about this **** decades ago. Well lookie lookie here's a cookie.

In before all the usual suspects scold you for having a brain

[Pointgod]

Russia invaded a sovereign country and I see people are still going with Russia’s abuser excuse of “You made me do this to you”. Imagine seeing the destruction and war crimes committed by Russian soldiers and blaming everyone else except Putin. No one can predict what’s going to happen or how it ends.

[Zenzibar]

This is a power/resource grab and an attack on the petrodollar. No one takes the last part serious but...I keep seeing smoke that these sanctions are stepping on our own dick and that's all about the reserve status of the dollar. It has been the driving force for the spread of democracy for decades IMO. I am no economist but...this is what I get from it all.

Russia is going to war with WMD like claims and who are we to say anything? China having Covid lockdowns that are disrupting the supply chain.

It's all a scary mess to me. The whole escalation POV that guy discusses is a discussion I came across back when Obama was in office. That the US economy/dollar was under attack and WW3 was inevitable. People thought it was crazy talk. I'm afraid it looks to be coming to fruition.

But...WTF do I know? I'm a Knicks fan.

Fantastic personal analysis Fam.

Many just regurgitate Twitter, CNN etc. but fail to take a step back and see what chess moves are being made. There is a part of the chess strategy when all you moves are exhausted and you drop your King. In this case, dropping your King means let's kiss ALL of our asses goodbye.

Russia will NOT submit and lost 80 million civilians in WW2 and no surrender. If Ukraine presses into Russia with border incursions, gloves come off and tomahawks will fly.
There are already some noise that members of Poland's special forces have been captured near Kyiv. This is already broadening.

You also brought up another interesting note. China was recently "punished" with more sanctions for working with Russia on that SWIFT equivalent.
What was the response as you eloquently mentioned a "Covid scare". Lockdowns that slowed production and exports. Who does that hurt? the U.S. and the West.

Who's backing down? Who will feel cornered? Who will drop their King in this global game of chess?

My mother had me watching presidential debates...when I was fresh out of diapers. Family owned service station with gas pumps for about 50 years. She ran it the last few. OPEC shortages in the 70s is where I grew up. She taught me all about the real world. The truth you didn't see. The petrodollar that most people aren't even aware of. Follow the money. That was her answer to everything political. Every war. Every law passed... etc. She was right.

Too many people get blinded by identity politics and patriotic rah rah speeches. They are clueless to what's really going on. The media is complicit in all of it too. Until something gets too big to ignore...they don't say shyt.

This is WW3 by proxy. Eventually... it's going to be a lot more death than the atrocities we are seeing now. It is scary as hell and can either side really step down at this point? This is bigger than Putin being a maniac and the US world police doing the right thing. That's just my humble opinion. People used to say all the tin foil hat jokes when I was warning them about this **** decades ago. Well lookie lookie here's a cookie.

Bro I agree.
It makes me sick to my stomach when folks follow the herd and yell that the West, "we", NATO should no-fly zone or send troops etc. Rooting for sides like their watching a basketball game. God forbid, we're woken at night by our phones screaming an alert giving us 30 minutes to get up and out.

Mtherfkers, weren't even born during the Vietnam War, let alone WW1 or WW2. What we have here is, have fun, squeeze your love ones, bless-up to what one currently has and have a enjoy life type of time.

May we all stay blessed.

[NowWHYcee7]

Ukranian president appealing to Israel talking about they have the same "struggle," LMAOOOOOOO. Seriously, people really falling for this BS?

[KnicksGadfly]

Ukranian president appealing to Israel talking about they have the same "struggle," LMAOOOOOOO. Seriously, people really falling for this BS?

I think it’s because Zelensky heard you say that any country that can’t defend itself doesn’t deserve to exist. I like that idea by the way. I think we should take out Canada next…get all their maple syrup.

[8516knicks]

who wouldn't fight for them?

Watch on YouTube

[Zenzibar]

who wouldn't fight for them?

Watch on YouTube

They might, if a little bit of the billions spent for war would go to them.

Watch on YouTube

[8516knicks]

who wouldn't fight for them?

Watch on YouTube

They might, if a little bit of the billions spent for war would go to them.

Watch on YouTube

You're right.

But every human endeavor can be one-upped like that.

For instance, someone could post a group of blind, amputee starving kids. Saying they are more deserving than the starving kids you posted.

Then someone could post a group of blind, amputee starving kids with leprosy, etc. Saying they are more deserving than either of the other two groups of starving kids.

Or someone could end every Knick post here with comment that no one should feel happiness at a Knick win (or even take the time to post on a message board) until all the starving people of the world are in better circumstances.

As Nietzche said, "In reality, the wheel of causailty stops nowhere."

[Zenzibar]

who wouldn't fight for them?

Watch on YouTube

They might, if a little bit of the billions spent for war would go to them.

Watch on YouTube

You're right.

But every human endeavor can be one-upped like that.

For instance, someone could post a group of blind, amputee starving kids. Saying they are more deserving than the starving kids you posted.

Then someone could post a group of blind, amputee starving kids with leprosy, etc. Saying they are more deserving than either of the other two groups of starving kids.

Or someone could end every Knick post here with comment that no one should feel happiness at a Knick win (or even take the time to post on a message board) until all the starving people of the world are in better circumstances.

As Nietzche said, "In reality, the wheel of causailty stops nowhere."

Funny you mentioned Nietzche, the following is also attributed to him:
"Slaves, Nietzsche remarked, hailed from “useless and harmful stock” and belonged to an altogether different and invariably subordinate species."

All in all, Human priorities are all screwed up depending who's hurting..

[8516knicks]

I like Emerson better anyway - "Another analogy we shall now trace, that every action admits of being outdone. Our life is an apprenticeship to the truth that around every circle another can be drawn; that there is no end in nature, but every end is a beginning; that there is always another dawn risen on mid-noon, and under every deep a lower deep opens."

[RandlesCornrows]

This war is just exhausting from and outsiders perspective. I’m about the mute every major word on Twitter to avoid it.

Seeing how the Putin boot lickers on Twitter glorify this **** brings out evil on me I never imagined. It’s like a quarter of the population waits for moments like this.

[HarthorneWingo]

Russian citizens leaving Russia for Georgia. According to this report, 14,000 have fled.

Watch on YouTube

[lloydj]

Steroids?

[8516knicks]

They might, if a little bit of the billions spent for war would go to them.

Watch on YouTube

You're right.

But every human endeavor can be one-upped like that.

For instance, someone could post a group of blind, amputee starving kids. Saying they are more deserving than the starving kids you posted.

Then someone could post a group of blind, amputee starving kids with leprosy, etc. Saying they are more deserving than either of the other two groups of starving kids.

Or someone could end every Knick post here with comment that no one should feel happiness at a Knick win (or even take the time to post on a message board) until all the starving people of the world are in better circumstances.

As Nietzche said, "In reality, the wheel of causailty stops nowhere."

I read


Funny you mentioned Nietzche, the following is also attributed to him:
"Slaves, Nietzsche remarked, hailed from “useless and harmful stock” and belonged to an altogether different and invariably subordinate species."

All in all, Human priorities are all screwed up depending who's hurting..

I read/saw something today on youtube that shook me - there's this kid who at 15 (2013 IN CA) walked a few houses down and killed an elderly couple with his knife and then basically dissected them. The sort of story that sends people into the post-WW2 zone of existentialism after the shock of the Nazi death camps. How does anyone make sense of this in a human experience? Starving kids and Russian genocide shouldn't have to jockey for position #1 on the human horror scale. What to do? For me, I'm temporarily taking refuge in the fantasy (??) that we're living in a simulation. And I have lots of co-incidences leading me to give that plausibility. Otherwise, the sane reaction to a world with all these horrors might just be to go mad!

[Zenzibar]

You're right.

But every human endeavor can be one-upped like that.

For instance, someone could post a group of blind, amputee starving kids. Saying they are more deserving than the starving kids you posted.

Then someone could post a group of blind, amputee starving kids with leprosy, etc. Saying they are more deserving than either of the other two groups of starving kids.

Or someone could end every Knick post here with comment that no one should feel happiness at a Knick win (or even take the time to post on a message board) until all the starving people of the world are in better circumstances.

As Nietzche said, "In reality, the wheel of causailty stops nowhere."

I read


Funny you mentioned Nietzche, the following is also attributed to him:
"Slaves, Nietzsche remarked, hailed from “useless and harmful stock” and belonged to an altogether different and invariably subordinate species."

All in all, Human priorities are all screwed up depending who's hurting..

I read/saw something today on youtube that shook me - there's this kid who at 15 (2013 IN CA) walked a few houses down and killed an elderly couple with his knife and then basically dissected them. The sort of story that sends people into the post-WW2 zone of existentialism after the shock of the Nazi death camps. How does anyone make sense of this in a human experience? Starving kids and Russian genocide shouldn't have to jockey for position #1 on the human horror scale. What to do? For me, I'm temporarily taking refuge in the fantasy (??) that we're living in a simulation. And I have lots of co-incidences leading me to give that plausibility. Otherwise, the sane reaction to a world with all these horrors might just be to go mad!

i understand

[Knickfan1982]

Ukranian president appealing to Israel talking about they have the same "struggle," LMAOOOOOOO. Seriously, people really falling for this BS?

I think it’s because Zelensky heard you say that any country that can’t defend itself doesn’t deserve to exist. I like that idea by the way. I think we should take out Canada next…get all their maple syrup.

And force them to accept for profit health care while we get socialized medicine.

[HarthorneWingo]

Watch on YouTube

[Zenzibar]

https://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-has-asked-g7-50-bln-cover-budget-deficit-says-senior-official-2022-04-17/

Ukraine has asked G7 for $50 billion to cover budget deficit, says senior official

The IMF funding wars now, while millions are staring? SMFH