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Post#1761 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:18 pm

I liked Holmes btw…
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Post#1762 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue Mar 25, 2025 9:07 pm

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Knicks gonna have to make some smart decisions to stay under the 2nd apron



We'll be under it, we could potentially be under the first apron as well.
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Post#1763 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Mar 25, 2025 9:11 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
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Knicks gonna have to make some smart decisions to stay under the 2nd apron



We'll be under it, we could potentially be under the first apron as well.


We will have 190mil locked in on 10 players. That leaves 16mil to stay under the 2nd apron and get to the required 14 regular contracts.
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Post#1764 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Mar 27, 2025 8:12 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
Knicks gonna have to make some smart decisions to stay under the 2nd apron



We'll be under it, we could potentially be under the first apron as well.


We will have 190mil locked in on 10 players. That leaves 16mil to stay under the 2nd apron and get to the required 14 regular contracts.




Meaning we'll be under it when we roll over to the 2025-26 salary, if we can get under the first apron we'll have the MLE.
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Post#1765 » by Richard4444 » Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:19 pm

How much are we desperate for wings with good size?

Because Cam Reddish was just waived.
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Post#1766 » by Ray Williams » Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:20 am

Cam Reddish waived. WTF happened with that guy?
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Post#1767 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:42 am

Ray Williams wrote:Cam Reddish waived. WTF happened with that guy?

Horrible shooter…
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Post#1768 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Mar 28, 2025 6:39 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

We'll be under it, we could potentially be under the first apron as well.


We will have 190mil locked in on 10 players. That leaves 16mil to stay under the 2nd apron and get to the required 14 regular contracts.




Meaning we'll be under it when we roll over to the 2025-26 salary, if we can get under the first apron we'll have the MLE.


We will be 5 mil under the first apron but, 4 players short. We will be flirting in the second apron and we have to extend Mikal at some point. The following year the numbers will go up another 10%. 15.4mil I believe. I assume the team will continue to spend wisely and build around the core that is already here. Which happens to be a good team.
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Post#1769 » by HopelessKnick » Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:19 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
We will have 190mil locked in on 10 players. That leaves 16mil to stay under the 2nd apron and get to the required 14 regular contracts.




Meaning we'll be under it when we roll over to the 2025-26 salary, if we can get under the first apron we'll have the MLE.


We will be 5 mil under the first apron but, 4 players short. We will be flirting in the second apron and we have to extend Mikal at some point. The following year the numbers will go up another 10%. 15.4mil I believe. I assume the team will continue to spend wisely and build around the core that is already here. Which happens to be a good team.


Do we have any type of exception (MLE etc.) available to us? And if yes how high is it going to be?
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Post#1770 » by Richard4444 » Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:46 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:


Meaning we'll be under it when we roll over to the 2025-26 salary, if we can get under the first apron we'll have the MLE.


We will be 5 mil under the first apron but, 4 players short. We will be flirting in the second apron and we have to extend Mikal at some point. The following year the numbers will go up another 10%. 15.4mil I believe. I assume the team will continue to spend wisely and build around the core that is already here. Which happens to be a good team.


Do we have any type of exception (MLE etc.) available to us? And if yes how high is it going to be?


If we stay under the second apron, we can use the Tax MLE $5,685,000
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Post#1771 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Mar 28, 2025 8:21 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:


Meaning we'll be under it when we roll over to the 2025-26 salary, if we can get under the first apron we'll have the MLE.


We will be 5 mil under the first apron but, 4 players short. We will be flirting in the second apron and we have to extend Mikal at some point. The following year the numbers will go up another 10%. 15.4mil I believe. I assume the team will continue to spend wisely and build around the core that is already here. Which happens to be a good team.


Do we have any type of exception (MLE etc.) available to us? And if yes how high is it going to be?


Tax payer MLE is around 6 mil I believe? We should have around 17 mil to bring in at least 4 players and stay under the 2nd apron. My assumption has been they probably go over the 2nd apron the following season and ride out everyone's deals after that. Then they don't lose the pick or whatever that stupid rule is.
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Post#1772 » by R-DAWG » Sat Mar 29, 2025 11:19 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
HopelessKnick wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
We will be 5 mil under the first apron but, 4 players short. We will be flirting in the second apron and we have to extend Mikal at some point. The following year the numbers will go up another 10%. 15.4mil I believe. I assume the team will continue to spend wisely and build around the core that is already here. Which happens to be a good team.


Do we have any type of exception (MLE etc.) available to us? And if yes how high is it going to be?


Tax payer MLE is around 6 mil I believe? We should have around 17 mil to bring in at least 4 players and stay under the 2nd apron. My assumption has been they probably go over the 2nd apron the following season and ride out everyone's deals after that. Then they don't lose the pick or whatever that stupid rule is.


How are you getting to 17mm? Spotrac has us 11.5MM below the 2nd apron with 10 roster spots filled.

Assume two spots are a 2nd rd pick (1.3mm) and vet min (2.3mm). The you want to keep Precious bird rights at say $3mm for future trade purposes. That leaves $4.9mm out of the taxpayer MLE available and puts us right at the 2nd apron.

It’s very tight, and once Mikal’s extension kicks in the following year it’s 2 straight years in the 2nd apron before a roster re-set in the summer of 28
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion 

Post#1773 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:24 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
HopelessKnick wrote:
Do we have any type of exception (MLE etc.) available to us? And if yes how high is it going to be?


Tax payer MLE is around 6 mil I believe? We should have around 17 mil to bring in at least 4 players and stay under the 2nd apron. My assumption has been they probably go over the 2nd apron the following season and ride out everyone's deals after that. Then they don't lose the pick or whatever that stupid rule is.


How are you getting to 17mm? Spotrac has us 11.5MM below the 2nd apron with 10 roster spots filled.

Assume two spots are a 2nd rd pick (1.3mm) and vet min (2.3mm). The you want to keep Precious bird rights at say $3mm for future trade purposes. That leaves $4.9mm out of the taxpayer MLE available and puts us right at the 2nd apron.

It’s very tight, and once Mikal’s extension kicks in the following year it’s 2 straight years in the 2nd apron before a roster re-set in the summer of 28


Math. We will be at 190mil with 10 players. The second apron is 207mil. You take 207 and subtract 190 and that leaves you with 17. When Mikals extension is due the cap goes up another 15.4mil.

Assuming things doesn't make them so but, do your own math. You just filled 4 spots using 7.9mil. that would leave us with about 9mil and one roster spot left. Not sure how you keep Precious bird rights for 3mil but, whatever.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion 

Post#1774 » by robillionaire » Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:31 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Ray Williams wrote:Cam Reddish waived. WTF happened with that guy?

Horrible shooter…


The Lakers LeBron and the Klutch sport bozos tried so hard to make scam happen after we didn’t play him here. Only to find Thibs was right in his analysis that scam is bad. Sweet vindication. Glad we have Hart
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Post#1775 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Mar 29, 2025 3:33 pm

What can the Knicks get for the combined salaries of Hart and Mitch, plus a pick? What player is out there than can create AND hit a jump shot and not be afraid to take one?

It's either that or trading Mikal to a team that wants more "defense" but then stupidly trade a player who can drive the ball more than Mikal is willing to.

Otherwise, enjoy several more years of 45-48 wins and those 1st and 2nd round exits.
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Post#1776 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Mar 29, 2025 3:49 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:What can the Knicks get for the combined salaries of Hart and Mitch, plus a pick? What player is out there than can create AND hit a jump shot and not be afraid to take one?

It's either that or trading Mikal to a team that wants more "defense" but then stupidly trade a player who can drive the ball more than Mikal is willing to.

Otherwise, enjoy several more years of 45-48 wins and those 1st and 2nd round exits.


I don't know. I'm all for keeping the team together and trying to fix the depth. If a name pops that makes sense obviously we could talk about it but, I think they plan on running with this core for the next few years. So I'm ok with that plan. Just need to make the bench stronger. I also think we need a new HC but, whatever. Until that happens I don't really see an easy path because he doesn't play his bench anyways. Continuity next year should bring improvements all by itself. Crawl walk run. We are in the walking stage of things.
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Post#1777 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:55 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:What can the Knicks get for the combined salaries of Hart and Mitch, plus a pick? What player is out there than can create AND hit a jump shot and not be afraid to take one?

It's either that or trading Mikal to a team that wants more "defense" but then stupidly trade a player who can drive the ball more than Mikal is willing to.

Otherwise, enjoy several more years of 45-48 wins and those 1st and 2nd round exits.


I don't know. I'm all for keeping the team together and trying to fix the depth. If a name pops that makes sense obviously we could talk about it but, I think they plan on running with this core for the next few years. So I'm ok with that plan. Just need to make the bench stronger. I also think we need a new HC but, whatever. Until that happens I don't really see an easy path because he doesn't play his bench anyways. Continuity next year should bring improvements all by itself. Crawl walk run. We are in the walking stage of things.

This will leave more time for offseason arguments so that’s good
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Post#1778 » by WargamesX » Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:17 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:What can the Knicks get for the combined salaries of Hart and Mitch, plus a pick? What player is out there than can create AND hit a jump shot and not be afraid to take one?

It's either that or trading Mikal to a team that wants more "defense" but then stupidly trade a player who can drive the ball more than Mikal is willing to.

Otherwise, enjoy several more years of 45-48 wins and those 1st and 2nd round exits.


I think it would be easier to describe the player you are thinking they trade for and people debating on if that trade was fair or not, than this.
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Post#1779 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:45 pm

WargamesX wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:What can the Knicks get for the combined salaries of Hart and Mitch, plus a pick? What player is out there than can create AND hit a jump shot and not be afraid to take one?

It's either that or trading Mikal to a team that wants more "defense" but then stupidly trade a player who can drive the ball more than Mikal is willing to.

Otherwise, enjoy several more years of 45-48 wins and those 1st and 2nd round exits.


I think it would be easier to describe the player you are thinking they trade for and people debating on if that trade was fair or not, than this.

He’s not the profile of player but the team would be better with Tre Murphy instead of Hart. Knicks need some roster rationalizing
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Post#1780 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Mar 29, 2025 10:14 pm

Ray Williams wrote:Cam Reddish waived. WTF happened with that guy?

Thibs be like …

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