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Re: This is not a trade discussion. KAT or BRUNSON 

Post#1761 » by Context » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:17 pm

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Re: This is not a trade discussion. KAT or BRUNSON 

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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd 

Post#1763 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:22 pm

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WargamesX wrote:That’s fair but low-key I think everything said is why he is the best option they have to correct the lineup of the plan is to keep KAT and Brunson. I legit think we could get a decent haul for him and if Mitch is the starting Center then move KAT to PF, OG to SF and Bridges to SG, next to Brunson.

They are paying him starter money and he isn’t a good fit starting next to Brunson and KAT when either Mitch or McBride fit better.


Mikal, Hart, and Robinson and our 2026 1st unprotected for JJJ and Bane. Memphis gets their major defensive uplift around JaMorant. And Bridges is much more effective as the 2nd or 3rd option. Trading for Divo would be an absolute bonus.

I don’t think they move Bridges. He actually played pretty well all things considered. Hart did too by t the shooting is a liability & honesty I think he would do better on a team where the offense relief more on transition scoring. Which doesn’t really fit next to the other four guys he was starting with who operate better in a half court offense.


Mikal is better as a 2nd or 3rd option . OG upped his offensive game and needs less shots to be effective. Also Bridges 3 aside from corners is a bit spotty on the efficiency. JJJ is a much better fit next to KAT. Mitch is on last year and not reliable health wise. I could do JJJ and Clarke for Bridges and then one of Mitch or Hart too.
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Re: This is not a trade discussion. KAT or BRUNSON 

Post#1764 » by nykballa2k4 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:23 pm

Nicnac wrote:Ok. The talk on the street is that both are defensive liabilities. The focus is on how terrible KAT is while NYC continues to worship Jb. I actually give JB more credit than thibs for turning this team around. But if I had to chose one to ride with bc of their supposed inability to play together, I CHOOSE TOWNS!! I wanted this to be a poll. Didn't know how. My defense

First, this offense was created for jb. It's sad that as a guard he had either 6 or 8 assists the ENTIRE playoffs to towns who was tailored made for the Pic and roll while jb looked for Josh mostly, ALL YR LONG.he looked towns off. And yet someone towns underperformed???

SECOND, Thibs only featured Kat in the playoffs when he had to to try to save his A... And he delivered every time except the last game

Third, I believe we have seen the best of jb. He is slow up the court. Easier to defend in playoffs. And his real value is end of game. Which is important but difficult to be in that position every game

Fourth, towns passes better. Is more of a team player and is also unstoppable

Now jb is no slouch,but I don't think towns is given credit for who he is. And I suppose jb defense is given a pass in a heavily dominated guard league. I bet most don't agree. But it's interesting how NYC fans under appreciate their own. BUT LOVE EVERY OTHER TEAMS PLAYERS.

AND IT IS asinine to trade kat for 37 yr old KD who has never helped a team win without curry.

Anyone remember the mo cheeks deal??? Smh smh smh.

A kd deal WILL NOT GET US A CHAMPIONSHIP NEXT YR and then what

Fire away

And honestly, with mitch playing D, I would quickly trade jb for Tre. His value will never be higher. And he and daddy need to be gone imo


First and foremost: You are not a Knicks fan, you are a poser and your opinions are forever tainted. Trading JB and daddy Brunson for Trae the Troll is pure drivel.

To the actual point: the offense should be more Towns centered if we keep him because Towns in the high post or at the 3 point line offers more spacing and opportunities for other guys to get easy buckets.
JB is the point, but really he is the 2. I made this comment during the playoffs and as long as we have Towns I will repeat -- we need to run the offense like it's Shaq and Kobe
Additionally to that point: we need Towns to work on his post game, work on shooting with contact, and work on not being a problem with the refs. He isn't going to become a different player at his ripe ole age, but he can work on his efficiency.

Having said all of that, we are probably trading Towns and our soul for KD. Happy for Booker to be able to play with his friend KAT.
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Re: This is not a trade discussion. KAT or BRUNSON 

Post#1765 » by Handledatruth » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:24 pm

wow...let me nitpick some small things in your post

Easier to defend in playoffs.

I don't know what you definition of eaiser to defend is, but I think Detroit, Indiana, Philadelphia, and Miami would have a different opinion on that
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/jalen-brunson-playoffs-stats-with-knicks

I would quickly trade jb for Tre.

You complain about Brunson's defense but have you ever seen Trae play defense?

First, this offense was created for jb. It's sad that as a guard he had either 6 or 8 assists the ENTIRE playoffs to towns who was tailored made for the Pic and roll while jb looked for Josh mostly, ALL YR LONG.he looked towns off. And yet someone towns underperformed???

Did you even watch the games?
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Re: This is not a trade discussion. KAT or BRUNSON 

Post#1766 » by Fury » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:26 pm

Wait you guys read all that?
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Re: This is not a trade discussion. KAT or BRUNSON 

Post#1767 » by Nicnac » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:35 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
Nicnac wrote:Ok. The talk on the street is that both are defensive liabilities. The focus is on how terrible KAT is while NYC continues to worship Jb. I actually give JB more credit than thibs for turning this team around. But if I had to chose one to ride with bc of their supposed inability to play together, I CHOOSE TOWNS!! I wanted this to be a poll. Didn't know how. My defense

First, this offense was created for jb. It's sad that as a guard he had either 6 or 8 assists the ENTIRE playoffs to towns who was tailored made for the Pic and roll while jb looked for Josh mostly, ALL YR LONG.he looked towns off. And yet someone towns underperformed???

SECOND, Thibs only featured Kat in the playoffs when he had to to try to save his A... And he delivered every time except the last game

Third, I believe we have seen the best of jb. He is slow up the court. Easier to defend in playoffs. And his real value is end of game. Which is important but difficult to be in that position every game

Fourth, towns passes better. Is more of a team player and is also unstoppable

Now jb is no slouch,but I don't think towns is given credit for who he is. And I suppose jb defense is given a pass in a heavily dominated guard league. I bet most don't agree. But it's interesting how NYC fans under appreciate their own. BUT LOVE EVERY OTHER TEAMS PLAYERS.

AND IT IS asinine to trade kat for 37 yr old KD who has never helped a team win without curry.

Anyone remember the mo cheeks deal??? Smh smh smh.

A kd deal WILL NOT GET US A CHAMPIONSHIP NEXT YR and then what

Fire away

And honestly, with mitch playing D, I would quickly trade jb for Tre. His value will never be higher. And he and daddy need to be gone imo


First and foremost: You are not a Knicks fan, you are a poser and your opinions are forever tainted. Trading JB and daddy Brunson for Trae the Troll is pure drivel.

To the actual point: the offense should be more Towns centered if we keep him because Towns in the high post or at the 3 point line offers more spacing and opportunities for other guys to get easy buckets.
JB is the point, but really he is the 2. I made this comment during the playoffs and as long as we have Towns I will repeat -- we need to run the offense like it's Shaq and Kobe
Additionally to that point: we need Towns to work on his post game, work on shooting with contact, and work on not being a problem with the refs. He isn't going to become a different player at his ripe ole age, but he can work on his efficiency.

Having said all of that, we are probably trading Towns and our soul for KD. Happy for Booker to be able to play with his friend KAT.

Been a knick fan since 67. I will read the rest of post later. Read between the lines. Supposedly. One has to go. I would choose jb. That's all. Best value. Probably peaked
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Re: This is not a trade discussion. KAT or BRUNSON 

Post#1768 » by Nicnac » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:40 pm

Handledatruth wrote:wow...let me nitpick some small things in your post

Easier to defend in playoffs.

I don't know what you definition of eaiser to defend is, but I think Detroit, Indiana, Philadelphia, and Miami would have a different opinion on that
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/jalen-brunson-playoffs-stats-with-knicks

I would quickly trade jb for Tre.

You complain about Brunson's defense but have you ever seen Trae play defense?

First, this offense was created for jb. It's sad that as a guard he had either 6 or 8 assists the ENTIRE playoffs to towns who was tailored made for the Pic and roll while jb looked for Josh mostly, ALL YR LONG.he looked towns off. And yet someone towns underperformed???

Did you even watch the games?

According to your highlight you think he looked for kat often. ?? Really?? DID YOU WATCH THE GAMES? respectfully. And yes. Trea can't defend. That's the mitch angle. True pg for shooting guard posing as a pg. It works against most teams in this league. But we can't get past Indiana and had trouble with atl for that reason. the end of this season with thibs offense highlighted we had no pg keadership
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Re: This is not a trade discussion. KAT or BRUNSON 

Post#1769 » by nykballa2k4 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:42 pm

Nicnac wrote:
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Nicnac wrote:Ok. The talk on the street is that both are defensive liabilities. The focus is on how terrible KAT is while NYC continues to worship Jb. I actually give JB more credit than thibs for turning this team around. But if I had to chose one to ride with bc of their supposed inability to play together, I CHOOSE TOWNS!! I wanted this to be a poll. Didn't know how. My defense

First, this offense was created for jb. It's sad that as a guard he had either 6 or 8 assists the ENTIRE playoffs to towns who was tailored made for the Pic and roll while jb looked for Josh mostly, ALL YR LONG.he looked towns off. And yet someone towns underperformed???

SECOND, Thibs only featured Kat in the playoffs when he had to to try to save his A... And he delivered every time except the last game

Third, I believe we have seen the best of jb. He is slow up the court. Easier to defend in playoffs. And his real value is end of game. Which is important but difficult to be in that position every game

Fourth, towns passes better. Is more of a team player and is also unstoppable

Now jb is no slouch,but I don't think towns is given credit for who he is. And I suppose jb defense is given a pass in a heavily dominated guard league. I bet most don't agree. But it's interesting how NYC fans under appreciate their own. BUT LOVE EVERY OTHER TEAMS PLAYERS.

AND IT IS asinine to trade kat for 37 yr old KD who has never helped a team win without curry.

Anyone remember the mo cheeks deal??? Smh smh smh.

A kd deal WILL NOT GET US A CHAMPIONSHIP NEXT YR and then what

Fire away

And honestly, with mitch playing D, I would quickly trade jb for Tre. His value will never be higher. And he and daddy need to be gone imo


First and foremost: You are not a Knicks fan, you are a poser and your opinions are forever tainted. Trading JB and daddy Brunson for Trae the Troll is pure drivel.

To the actual point: the offense should be more Towns centered if we keep him because Towns in the high post or at the 3 point line offers more spacing and opportunities for other guys to get easy buckets.
JB is the point, but really he is the 2. I made this comment during the playoffs and as long as we have Towns I will repeat -- we need to run the offense like it's Shaq and Kobe
Additionally to that point: we need Towns to work on his post game, work on shooting with contact, and work on not being a problem with the refs. He isn't going to become a different player at his ripe ole age, but he can work on his efficiency.

Having said all of that, we are probably trading Towns and our soul for KD. Happy for Booker to be able to play with his friend KAT.

Been a knick fan since 67. I will read the rest of post later. Read between the lines. Supposedly. One has to go. I would choose jb. That's all. Best value. Probably peaked


Well you can see that 3 of the final 4 teams, the main guy was the scoring-focused point guard.
Did we play better in the Towns no-JB minutes compared to the JB no Towns? I think we did, but overall, there is no reason the pairing can't work particularly if Towns goes back to his preferred position of PF.
Again OP is nutters because thread title is "this is not a trade discussion" then ends with trading JB for Trae.

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Re: This is not a trade discussion. KAT or BRUNSON 

Post#1770 » by Nicnac » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:50 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
Nicnac wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
First and foremost: You are not a Knicks fan, you are a poser and your opinions are forever tainted. Trading JB and daddy Brunson for Trae the Troll is pure drivel.

To the actual point: the offense should be more Towns centered if we keep him because Towns in the high post or at the 3 point line offers more spacing and opportunities for other guys to get easy buckets.
JB is the point, but really he is the 2. I made this comment during the playoffs and as long as we have Towns I will repeat -- we need to run the offense like it's Shaq and Kobe
Additionally to that point: we need Towns to work on his post game, work on shooting with contact, and work on not being a problem with the refs. He isn't going to become a different player at his ripe ole age, but he can work on his efficiency.

Having said all of that, we are probably trading Towns and our soul for KD. Happy for Booker to be able to play with his friend KAT.

Been a knick fan since 67. I will read the rest of post later. Read between the lines. Supposedly. One has to go. I would choose jb. That's all. Best value. Probably peaked


Well you can see that 3 of the final 4 teams, the main guy was the scoring-focused point guard.
Did we play better in the Towns no-JB minutes compared to the JB no Towns? I think we did, but overall, there is no reason the pairing can't work particularly if Towns goes back to his preferred position of PF.
Again OP is nutters because thread title is "this is not a trade discussion" then ends with trading JB for Trae.
took it out bc it's not relevant to the pt. Bc i realize that the focus would shift. I think nuts is this kat got yo go discussion. To each his own. Let's get obi. He plays for another team now. Smh
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Re: This is not a trade discussion. KAT or BRUNSON 

Post#1771 » by WaltFrazier » Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:16 pm

More as an aside, the OP mentioned the Mo Cheeks deal. Traded for Rod Strickland. It's not comparable to KD the way the OP implied. But is it regarded a bad deal? I guess so considering Mo's age vs a young Strickland. But then Cheeks had that one golden moment eliminating the Celtics in the first round. That felt worth it at the time.

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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd 

Post#1772 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:22 pm

Barcs wrote:I still don't understand how a 36 year old KD has a higher value than a 29 year old KAT. I feel like we should get a couple firsts back with KD if we do that. I'm just baffled how anybody could think that we need to trade multiple starters and bench for the dude. It would be another huge mistake.

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Post#1773 » by iLLSonChandla » Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:28 pm

Bridges sucks no one is trading for him
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Post#1774 » by Enzo954 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:58 pm

Just heard that the Knicks are pulling out of trading for Durant. Thank God!
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Post#1775 » by ctorres » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:02 am

Enzo954 wrote:Just heard that the Knicks are pulling out of trading for Durant. Thank God!


Asking price must be way too high if it doesn't include KAT
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Post#1776 » by ctorres » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:05 am

WargamesX wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
WargamesX wrote:That’s fair but low-key I think everything said is why he is the best option they have to correct the lineup of the plan is to keep KAT and Brunson. I legit think we could get a decent haul for him and if Mitch is the starting Center then move KAT to PF, OG to SF and Bridges to SG, next to Brunson.

They are paying him starter money and he isn’t a good fit starting next to Brunson and KAT when either Mitch or McBride fit better.


Mikal, Hart, and Robinson and our 2026 1st unprotected for JJJ and Bane. Memphis gets their major defensive uplift around JaMorant. And Bridges is much more effective as the 2nd or 3rd option. Trading for Divo would be an absolute bonus.

I don’t think they move Bridges. He actually played pretty well all things considered. Hart did too by t the shooting is a liability & honesty I think he would do better on a team where the offense relief more on transition scoring. Which doesn’t really fit next to the other four guys he was starting with who operate better in a half court offense.


I hope we move Hart to the bench next season and have him be the guy who speeds up the pace for the 2nd unit.

Deuce or Mitch should start next season
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd 

Post#1777 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:14 am

Back on topic:

1. I keep going back to a trade for JJJ makes the most sense by far. I honestly think he can be had for Bridges plus our 2026 1st and a couple 2nds. Or Bridges and Mitch with Brandon Clarke coming back. Mitch is the defensive closer 5 Memphis has really wanted to stabilize that team. They are looking for guys to surround Ja Morant with that are defensively elite.

2. Giannis is absolutely a possibility if Kidd comes over. Giannis supposedly loves Kidd and he knows that the Milwaukee team has no real chance of competing next year. I think he is 75% gone.

3. Kidd stuff is absolutely not over. He went public he wants to move on. Only coach that did that. None of the other coaches did that. Kidd did. Why do that to alienate the t3am and fanbase unless you were seriously not going to be tryng everything in your power to leave?

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Divo(25)/Hart(15)/MLE(8) - Simmons, Oubre, Beasley, Trent Jr
Brunson(34)/Divo(5)/Wright(9)

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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd 

Post#1778 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:36 am

So it sounds like we have serious interest in KD. With the reports about how the team was frustrated playing with KAT, this is a great swap for both teams. Devin Booker would love to play with his boy too.
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Post#1779 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:46 am

3toheadmelo wrote:So it sounds like we have serious interest in KD. With the reports about how the team was frustrated playing with KAT, this is a great swap for both teams. Devin Booker would love to play with his boy too.
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There’s little chance Dolan signs off on a Durant trade ....

He is way too spiteful to forgive Durant for spurning the Knicks to sign with the Nets. Dolans comments after the KP trade made it clear they thought Durant was signing here, and KP was sent packing to make room for it. Durant left them at the altar and embarrassed Dolan in the process.
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Post#1780 » by Enzo954 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:56 am

It's been confirmed that we're not in play for KD. I don't know why you posters keep saying otherwise.

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