Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW

melo mvp 15 · Post #1781 » by **melo mvp 15** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:24 am

We'd do great with a motivated Davis. Arguably a better fit than Chauncey.

AllanHoustonFan · Post #1782 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:25 am

Mac1Money wrote:what other assets do the lakers have...Bynum and..World Peace? and some picks i guess....not worth D12

lol this is the Lakers we are talking about. It doesn't matter what assets you have.

Blue Ninja · Post #1783 » by **Blue Ninja** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:25 am

Iman Shumpert wrote:
Blue Ninja wrote:We have enough scorers on this team. We dont need prime Kidd here. We just need a solid PG. And its the coaches job to get this team efficient. If he doesnt hes not here next year. Tyson was a must for this team. A nobrainer.

No coach can teach Amare how to pass. Melo's a MAYBE. But even then that's gonna be pretty tough. This isn't a 1-on-1 league.

Amare is a bad passer now?

NoMoreThrees · Post #1784 » by **NoMoreThrees** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:25 am

Falstaffxx wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
RutgersBJJ wrote:We need a PG so badly. I pray that Donnie pulled a rabbit out of his wheel-chair and Shumpert is the real deal. You can't magically become unselfish over-night though, and we have 0 guards on this roster who are unselfish.

Our backcourt is putrid.

That seems unnecessarily harsh when we've got Douglas and Fields, both of whom played very well at times in the backcourt, and on top of that we drafted a promising combo-guard. We do need a veteran point guard, but there's some exaggerating going on.

shumperts has never played and is not known. douglas is a bench gunner. fields had 2 okay months and was lost the rest and isnt a guard. rautins is awful. carter was awful. mason was awful. hes right. we got nobody. its just truth. we got not one guard that is starter worthy.

shtolky · Post #1785 » by **shtolky** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:25 am

melo mvp 15 wrote:We'd do great with a motivated Davis. Arguably a better fit than Chauncey.

Can't imagine Davis wouldn't in motivated and ready to play with the guys we have. For a min deal, have to be ok with that, wait on Nash next season for MLE.

FanzWaaat · Post #1786 » by **FanzWaaat** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:25 am

DocZaius wrote:The only way this move appeases me is if D'Antoni gets fired and Phil Jackson steps in.

Haha. Phil is already licking his chops for next year.

johnnywishbone · Post #1787 » by **johnnywishbone** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:25 am

I don't get why people are so stressed out about needing a point guard. Look at what the Lakers have been doing with a big front line and Derek Fischer.

Knicker23 · Post #1788 » by **Knicker23** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:25 am

Baron is clearly our best option, whether he's in immediate shape or not, he comes here ill be happy for the time being.

Chandler
Amare
Melo
Fields
Baron

Not too bad..

Post #1789 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:26 am

najeem37 wrote:I cant believe anyone could disagree with signing chandler.

Everyone was complaining about our defense and rebounding.

its hilarious!

people we have the best front court in the entire NBA!!! WTF are u complaining about?

AllanHoustonFan · Post #1790 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:26 am

johnnywishbone wrote:I don't get why people are so stressed out about needing a point guard. Look at what the Lakers have been doing with a big front line and Derek Fischer.

In a Mike D'Antoni offense, the point guard is the most important position.

Iman Shumpert · Post #1791 » by **Iman Shumpert** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:26 am

Blue Ninja wrote:
Iman Shumpert wrote:
Blue Ninja wrote:We have enough scorers on this team. We dont need prime Kidd here. We just need a solid PG. And its the coaches job to get this team efficient. If he doesnt hes not here next year. Tyson was a must for this team. A nobrainer.

No coach can teach Amare how to pass. Melo's a MAYBE. But even then that's gonna be pretty tough. This isn't a 1-on-1 league.

Amare is a bad passer now?

Not just bad. Terrible to the tenth degree. That's not even a question. Have you never seen him play?

robinsoncano · Post #1792 » by **robinsoncano** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:27 am

Mitch Kupchak ('~'): We'll give you Matt Barnes and Steve Blake for Dwight Howard
Otis Smith: I don't know about that.
Mitch Kupchak HYPNOTIZING GLARE
Otis Smith: Matt Barnes and Steve Blake for Dwight Howard sounds GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post #1793 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:27 am

I still love this signing.

We filled our biggest need which also happens to be the most difficult thing to find in the NBA. A legit 7' defensive C. 3rd place for DPOY award.

All we gave up was Billups and Turiaf. They probably wouldnt even make it through half the season. There wasn't anytone better to spend our cap space.

PG? We could probably trade Fields and get a decent pg. If Nash's leaving anyway, maybe they even take Fields, TD and filler for Nash. Unlikely, but you never know

We have some time to fill it. I have a feeling there will be even more options out there though then people realize.

towelie · Post #1794 » by **towelie** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:27 am

I feel like you guys are just lashing out that Lakers made a coup and won the CP3 sweepstakes.

TKF is right on this one: When in the history of the NBA has a team had the assets to trade for not one, but two superstars in one season? We were a longshot for CP3 with all our assets gone and only $13M in cap space. The same can now be said about the Lakers and Dwight.

Lakers don't have any cap space, have only Bynum as an asset (overrated and not going to get them Dwight), and thankfully, Orlando isn't owned by the NBA or run by a former Laker. They aren't gifting Dwight to LA, and he can't sign there as a FA.

I'd bet money that Dwight won't be a Laker. There's only one way I can conceivably see it happen...and that's if the Lakers amnesty Kobe, clearing his $25M salary, and then signing Dwight.

The_Philosopher · Post #1795 » by **The_Philosopher** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:27 am

Iman Shumpert wrote:
Not just bad. Terrible to the tenth degree. That's not even a question. Have you never seen him play?

Lol @ "now". As if he was ever good before.

johnnywishbone · Post #1796 » by **johnnywishbone** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:28 am

AllanHoustonFan wrote:
johnnywishbone wrote:I don't get why people are so stressed out about needing a point guard. Look at what the Lakers have been doing with a big front line and Derek Fischer.

In a Mike D'Antoni offense, the point guard is the most important position.

So... get rid of Mike D'Antoni.

makeitstop · Post #1797 » by **makeitstop** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:28 am

OakFlagrant2 wrote:
makeitstop wrote:
OakFlagrant2 wrote:Would a Sign and trade Chandler for Turiaf allow us to pay Chandler 12+ and keep(not amnesty) Billups?

Dallas said they weren't interested in Billups.

Please read what I wrote.... DAllas sign Chandler and trade him to us for Turiaf... can it happen under the cap saying Chandler's salary starts at about 12 or so? That way we can keep Billups at anassett to get CP3... does that sign & trade work under the cap?

Turiaf only makes $4 mil. The numbers aren't even on the same planet.

KnicksFan007 · Post #1798 » by **KnicksFan007** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:28 am

Again. Shumpert is perfectly fine at PG if we went there.

We do not need a star PG to win. If he knows the plays, can pass to Melo and Amare to let them Iso and do their thing then we're fine.

TKF · Post #1799 » by **TKF** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:28 am

We will have that ugly iso offense that Miami and Chicago has now, and even with Chandler, we aren't the defensive squads those teams are. I mean, we're closer now, but it's the potential lack of offensive efficiency that's killing me. I guess we better get used to Amare and Melo diving into double teams again.

we don't know yet.. I hope that isn't the case, but lets see what NY does about a PG.. just a day ago we didn't see this move coming at all...

Falstaffxx · Post #1800 » by **Falstaffxx** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:28 am

NoMoreThrees wrote:
shumperts has never played and is not known. douglas is a bench gunner. fields had 2 okay months and was lost the rest and isnt a guard. rautins is awful. carter was awful. mason was awful. hes right. we got nobody. its just truth. we got not one guard that is starter worthy.

"Unknown" is completely different from "putrid." And he's not completely unknown. The Knicks drafted him because they felt they could project him as a good player.

Douglas may be destined to be a bench player, but he's played very well at times and the jury is still out on him.

Saying Fields had "an okay 2 months" is ludicrous. He was outstanding for a large stretch of the season.

I have no idea why you're even bringing up Rautins plus 2 players that aren't on the team to make a point.