Me7o Thread: Hoodie edition

[vallen]

time to stirr up some drama (and yes i do believe this is true. there was reports that we wanted smith when phil got phired, and im also over it, but what the heck...)

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i believe this to be true, and said it the day phil got fired. it was no coincidence. Phil scouted familys more then he scouted the actual players. for him it was more important to draft a player coming from a good family background then it was overall talent. culture.

back to melo, people need to taper their expectations. even if he goes to PRT teams still arent giving us players like Jabari Parker for **** contracts returns. we could probably do more with his salary in FA then we will get trading him. but im still betting that Perry gives in, and we get a bunch of underwhelming talent, that this board will undoubtedly overrate.

[Dantares]

The rumor that mills wanted dsjr sounds like bs. Like mills is really going to go against Clarence Gaines and Kevin Wilson our two best scouts, who I am sure both gave Frank their seal of approval. Mills isnt even afraid to draft euros, he gets the most credit for getting Willy here.

[3toheadmelo]

It was a little fishy that Monk said he was wearing something for where he was going to get drafted. Wore obvious Knicks colors and then we didn't take him. I'm guessing draft night was wild in the front office and Phil was going out in a blaze of glory. Frank was close to the final straw and buying out Melo or being close to taking Moreys first offer was the straw that broke the camel's back

agreed
IMO, i think the majority of the front office wanted DSJ or Monk. with monk saying all of that, then all those reports that came out we wanted smith when phil got fired just made too much sense.
of course i'm not trying to dwell on the past (im a frank frooter), but i just wanted to put this out there. i think things would've been different if phil got fired a week before the draft. i just thought this was interesting

[3toheadmelo]

time to stirr up some drama (and yes i do believe this is true. there was reports that we wanted smith when phil got phired, and im also over it, but what the heck...)

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i believe this to be true, and said it the day phil got fired. it was no coincidence. Phil scouted familys more then he scouted the actual players. for him it was more important to draft a player coming from a good family background then it was overall talent. culture.

back to melo, people need to taper their expectations. even if he goes to PRT teams still arent giving us players like Jabari Parker for **** contracts returns. we could probably do more with his salary in FA then we will get trading him. but im still betting that Perry gives in, and we get a bunch of underwhelming talent, that this board will undoubtedly overrate.

for me, i think frank was picked mainly for the triangle. (and im not trying to say frank can't play in other systems, he DEF can).
like we literally ran the triangle in draft workouts. i think phil prioritized the triangle over talent.

im over this, and i think frank will be a good player for us. but i thought this was some interesting stuff to share

[Jay10]

@ not one to dwell on the past yet you're talking about something[draft] that happened 3 months ago.

Everyone knew Phil was going to draft Frank, since the other 2 players[DSJr and Monk] have no impact on the game if they aren't scoring.

[GONYK]

time to stirr up some drama (and yes i do believe this is true. there was reports that we wanted smith when phil got phired, and im also over it, but what the heck...)

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i believe this to be true, and said it the day phil got fired. it was no coincidence. Phil scouted familys more then he scouted the actual players. for him it was more important to draft a player coming from a good family background then it was overall talent. culture.

back to melo, people need to taper their expectations. even if he goes to PRT teams still arent giving us players like Jabari Parker for **** contracts returns. we could probably do more with his salary in FA then we will get trading him. but im still betting that Perry gives in, and we get a bunch of underwhelming talent, that this board will undoubtedly overrate.

for me, i think frank was picked mainly for the triangle. (and im not trying to say frank can't play in other systems, he DEF can).
like we literally ran the triangle in draft workouts. i think phil prioritized the triangle over talent.

im over this, and i think frank will be a good player for us. but i thought this was some interesting stuff to share

Gaines scouted Frank, and made the recommendation. Let's not pretend that Phil just drafted the kid because he came from a good family and that's it. The kid was a consensus top 10 pick because he has talent and potential.

If Mills disagreed with Clarence's opinion so much, it is interesting that he kept him on.

[3toheadmelo]

:lol: @ not one to dwell on the past yet you're talking about something[draft] that happened 3 months ago.

Everyone knew Phil was going to draft Frank, since the other 2 players[DSJr and Monk] have no impact on the game if they aren't scoring.

yet we're on the 10000000th melo thread because of a trade that won't happen. so if you wanna talk about that 5:45 bull every day, be my guest.

i'm not gonna argue with you on about smith's game either. ill just say that scoring is not the only thing he does..

[3toheadmelo]

i believe this to be true, and said it the day phil got fired. it was no coincidence. Phil scouted familys more then he scouted the actual players. for him it was more important to draft a player coming from a good family background then it was overall talent. culture.

back to melo, people need to taper their expectations. even if he goes to PRT teams still arent giving us players like Jabari Parker for **** contracts returns. we could probably do more with his salary in FA then we will get trading him. but im still betting that Perry gives in, and we get a bunch of underwhelming talent, that this board will undoubtedly overrate.

for me, i think frank was picked mainly for the triangle. (and im not trying to say frank can't play in other systems, he DEF can).
like we literally ran the triangle in draft workouts. i think phil prioritized the triangle over talent.

im over this, and i think frank will be a good player for us. but i thought this was some interesting stuff to share

Gaines scouted Frank, and made the recommendation. Let's not pretend that Phil just drafted the kid because he came from a good family and that's it. The kid was a consensus top 10 pick because he has talent and potential.

If Mills disagreed with Clarence's opinion so much, it is interesting that he kept him on.

you quoted the wrong guy
i don't think we picked him because he came from a good family. i think it's because of the triangle. and i will not dispute that he does have potential and talent, but i think the triangle was the #1 factor in this pick

[3toheadmelo]

meh i think this was a bad idea posting those tweets.... but again there's nothing to talk about in these melo threads

[3toheadmelo]

i think i'll just stay in the BAF threads until the season starts

[vallen]

whatever the reasons frank was a bad pick. and this board will turn on him faster then greenie defends melo. which is going to be tough to watch knowing he needs to develop, before he can contribute.

[HarthorneWingo]

F*ck Trey Rodriguez. Who the hell is he anyhow? He doesn't even have that little blue check next to his name which means he doesn't even exist, right?

But if he does, then he's just stirring up shyt for publicity.

[HarthorneWingo]

whatever the reasons frank was a bad pick. and this board will turn on him faster then greenie defends melo. which is going to be tough to watch knowing he needs to develop, before he can contribute.

And you just gave us some great sig material.

[vallen]

whatever the reasons frank was a bad pick. and this board will turn on him faster then greenie defends melo. which is going to be tough to watch knowing he needs to develop, before he can contribute.

And you just gave us some great sig material.

i have threads and threads om top of threads. have fun.

[GONYK]

whatever the reasons frank was a bad pick. and this board will turn on him faster then greenie defends melo. which is going to be tough to watch knowing he needs to develop, before he can contribute.

If he turns out to be a good player, how is he a bad pick?

Because the board will whine about him? The board whines about everything.

[3toheadmelo]

F*ck Trey Rodriguez. Who the hell is he anyhow? He doesn't even have that little blue check next to his name which means he doesn't even exist But if he does, then he's just stirring up shyt for publicity.

he does have some credibility, he called the phil firing before anyone else. so i think he's connected to the knicks somehow.

plus he was the guy who also said perry stopped mills from trading melo for anderson (which everyone seems to be in agreement with). so i mean it's really believe what you want at this point

[vallen]

whatever the reasons frank was a bad pick. and this board will turn on him faster then greenie defends melo. which is going to be tough to watch knowing he needs to develop, before he can contribute.

If he turns out to be a good player, how is he be a bad pick?

Because the board will whine about him? The board whines about everything.

if i though he was going to turn out to be be a good player, i obviously wouldnt be calling it a bad pick.

i have hopes he can be a decent role player. not exactly what you wish for in this draft at #8. i feel we could have done better. time will tell.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Monk and Smith would be so Knicks picks of regimes past.

Sexy, scoring dynamos with no defensive games or instincts.

We picked the guy that fits what we need from a fundamental standpoint: he defends, plays unselfishly and can shoot it.

We cannot judge him the first few years against his peers for a litany of reasons but in say three seasons I think we'll be pleased with what he becomes.

Smith is a solid player but those types of point guards usually don't win big in the league. See Rose, Baron Davis, etc....

Monk, if he can't transition to the one won't be a special pro. I'm not sure his game will translate once he faces bigger and more capable defenders at his position. Maybe he figures it out and becomes Gilbert Arenas or something. Chances are he doesn't and becomes something closer to a softer (cuz Lou gets to the line) Lou Williams.

Frank really doesn't have a current NBA comparison.
He's more dynamic an athlete than George Hill, his IQ and smoothness rival that's of a young Larry Hughes (who was a pretty good player his first few years) and he's not as cerebral or "freaky" (or long) as say the Greek Freak.

I think he will end up having a Michael Conley Jr type career, impact and game. Conley knows when to run the offense and when to score maybe better than any other pg in the league in my opinion. He won't wow you but at the end of the game he has 18 points and 5 assists with solid D in a win. And it could be said Frank is already a better shooter than Conley was coming into the league.

What this has to do with Melo, I don't know but sh*t, let's keep the party going.

[Capn'O]

If this dude shows up to training camp with his glazed donut ass face and has the gall to stand there with his stupid smile and answer questions about this **** team and how he's going to help instead of going to a playoff contender like Portland where he's actually wanted by the head guys...Dame and McCollum are on his nuts........

I swear I better not see this ninja on Monday....speaking of Monday, I heard Mills and Perry are holding a press conference.

All I ask is that we have money when KP is ready to go get some boys from his class for the next era and not be strapped for cash...one year, two year, whatever....I don't know what I'll do if one day Giannis wants to come here and we don't have the money.

well, that's exactly why you have to keep melo for now because every trade f*cks us in exactly the way you're worried about

God dammmmmnnniittt..................****! Even the Portland one?

With less gagging...

[Capn'O]

I'm not convinced of this noise that Phil overruled everyone on Frank but if he did he was right.