Around the NBA part 2 - Save Melo from Brodie

[JBreezeNY]

Okoro breaking out... Cavs might become my alt.

Pistons for me, rooting for Cade.

[ibraheim718]

okoro gang getting some redemption. They tried to call him Frankoro and say we couldn’t draft him because of the fit with diarrhea J. Sad

I liked him too…. Him and Haliburton

Yup. People make too big a deal about shooting when players are young. These guys all know they have to get better at it and they do.

I like guys who know how to make big plays in tight games at the end... That's the stuff you can't teach.

Haliburton was my guy. That one hurt. Cats on here were calling him Frankiburton.. remember that?

[ibraheim718]

Okoro breaking out... Cavs might become my alt.

Pistons for me, rooting for Cade.

He's going to be so good. Perennial all star. I made a wager with a kid on the general board.. I told him I'll take Cunningham, Green and Suggs and he can have the field on who's going to be the best player in the draft. Watch three years from now. Fans knee jerk too much.

[HarthorneWingo]

okoro gang getting some redemption. They tried to call him Frankoro and say we couldn’t draft him because of the fit with diarrhea J. Sad

I liked him too…. Him and Haliburton

Yup. People make too big a deal about shooting when players are young. These guys all know they have to get better at it and they do.

I like guys who know how to make big plays in tight games at the end... That's the stuff you can't teach.

Haliburton was my guy. That one hurt. Cats on here were calling him Frankiburton.. remember that?

Haliburger and Frankfurter

Tyrese was MY GUY!!!!!!

[Chanel Bomber]

The Cavs rebuilding 2 different times in the last 10 years is hilarious. Why the hell can't it be that easy for us?

Since 2014 the Cavs have had:

LeBron
Kyrie
Love
Garland
Mobley

Knicks:
Beach azz KP and his inefficient post-ups
Fluky Randle for one year
D-Rose on his last legs

[Reign23]

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what the effing ****? crazy.

[Reign23]

AR15 !!! Lakers 3 in a row!!!

also: do I not miss that THJ bum acting like a superstar while hitting 1/3 of his shots. to this day, I am glad that he is gone.

[GEOLINK]

The Cavs rebuilding 2 different times in the last 10 years is hilarious. Why the hell can't it be that easy for us?

Since 2014 the Cavs have had:

LeBron
Kyrie
Love
Garland
Mobley

Knicks:
Beach azz KP and his inefficient post-ups
Fluky Randle for one year
D-Rose on his last legs

NBA will also rig the lottery for them and give them Bronny and LeBron’s retirement tour.

[DOT]

Okoro breaking out... Cavs might become my alt.

Suddenly they're the team.

[thebuzzardman]

The Cavs rebuilding 2 different times in the last 10 years is hilarious. Why the hell can't it be that easy for us?

Since 2014 the Cavs have had:

LeBron
Kyrie
Love
Garland
Mobley

Knicks:
Beach azz KP and his inefficient post-ups
Fluky Randle for one year
D-Rose on his last legs

Because the Knicks were, are, and always will be, a total f*cking joke.

[robillionaire]

The Cavs rebuilding 2 different times in the last 10 years is hilarious. Why the hell can't it be that easy for us?

Since 2014 the Cavs have had:

LeBron
Kyrie
Love
Garland
Mobley

Knicks:
Beach azz KP and his inefficient post-ups
Fluky Randle for one year
D-Rose on his last legs

Because the Knicks were, are, and always will be, a total f*cking joke.

Well that and the league has gift wrapped the Cavs multiple number 1 picks and pushes us down in the lotto every time we are in it

[thebuzzardman]

Since 2014 the Cavs have had:

LeBron
Kyrie
Love
Garland
Mobley

Knicks:
Beach azz KP and his inefficient post-ups
Fluky Randle for one year
D-Rose on his last legs

Because the Knicks were, are, and always will be, a total f*cking joke.

Well that and the league has gift wrapped the Cavs multiple number 1 picks and pushes us down in the lotto every time we are in it

Knicks just suck. They never take maximum, or even reasonable advantage, of whatever draft slot(s) they get.

Dolan's in the entertainment business. The quality of the act doesn't matter, just if the seats are filled.

It would be nice if he cared about quality, but if he was a concert promoter and Menudo filled seats and he had the ghost of Beethoven and he didn't it, it would be the boy band each and every time.

Knicks are just another act for Dolan. He's ok with them as long as the tickets move.
He's got two Felt Forums, The Beacon Theater, Radio City, other MSG events to worry about.
And whatever Vegas etc sh*t he's into.

People should stop attending games, but there are I suppose only some many theater plays and art exhibits to see before the rich get bored and have to see some Knicks.

[K_ick_God]

The Cavs rebuilding 2 different times in the last 10 years is hilarious. Why the hell can't it be that easy for us?

Since 2014 the Cavs have had:

LeBron
Kyrie
Love
Garland
Mobley

Knicks:
Beach azz KP and his inefficient post-ups
Fluky Randle for one year
D-Rose on his last legs

But we tried to draft guys. Still some bad luck.

[DOT]

Thing about the Cavs is, when they lose LeBron, they bottom out hard

2011: 4th pick (and 1st pick from the Clippers)
2012: 4th pick
2013: 1st pick
2014: 1st pick

gap

2019: 5th pick
2020: 5th pick
2021: 3rd pick

And they had the 8th pick in 2018 from the Nets

So, to put it into perspective, in the last 3 years, they've had 3 top 5 picks. In the last 25 years, we've had 3 top 5 picks (RJ and KP, then you have to go back to Kenny Walker in 1986). And that's mostly ignoring luck cause they dropped 2 spots in both 2019 and 2020, but they did move up 2 spots last draft

In the last 10 years, they've had 7 top 5 picks, where we've had 7 top 5 picks in 45 years (Cazzie Russell, 1st overall pick in 1966, one year before we took Clyde 5th)

It's interesting, the Cavs are both an argument for and against tanking, cause they performed a much more successful tank from 2011-2014, with 2 4th overall selections and 2 1st overall selections (not counting the #1 from the Clippers), but from 2019-2021 they had 2 5th overalls and 1 3rd overall. Yet the players they got from the lesser picks are better

2011-2014 (again, not including the Clippers pick which got them Kyrie), they got Tristan Thompson, Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett, and Andrew Wiggins. Of those 4, Wiggins is the best, but only Thompson ever really contributed to anything. Compared to the current core of Garland, Okoro, and Mobley, even with Wiggins' resurgence in GS, I think you take both Garland and Mobley over him, and Okoro over Thompson, Waiters, and Bennett

It just goes to show that scouting and player development are as important if not more important than raw draft position.

[thebuzzardman]

Thing about the Cavs is, when they lose LeBron, they bottom out hard

2011: 4th pick (and 1st pick from the Clippers)
2012: 4th pick
2013: 1st pick
2014: 1st pick

gap

2019: 5th pick
2020: 5th pick
2021: 3rd pick

And they had the 8th pick in 2018 from the Nets

So, to put it into perspective, in the last 3 years, they've had 3 top 5 picks. In the last 25 years, we've had 3 top 5 picks (RJ and KP, then you have to go back to Kenny Walker in 1986). And that's mostly ignoring luck cause they dropped 2 spots in both 2019 and 2020, but they did move up 2 spots last draft

In the last 10 years, they've had 7 top 5 picks, where we've had 7 top 5 picks in 45 years (Cazzie Russell, 1st overall pick in 1966, one year before we took Clyde 5th)

It's interesting, the Cavs are both an argument for and against tanking, cause they performed a much more successful tank from 2011-2014, with 2 4th overall selections and 2 1st overall selections (not counting the #1 from the Clippers), but from 2019-2021 they had 2 5th overalls and 1 3rd overall. Yet the players they got from the lesser picks are better

2011-2014 (again, not including the Clippers pick which got them Kyrie), they got Tristan Thompson, Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett, and Andrew Wiggins. Of those 4, Wiggins is the best, but only Thompson ever really contributed to anything. Compared to the current core of Garland, Okoro, and Mobley, even with Wiggins' resurgence in GS, I think you take both Garland and Mobley over him, and Okoro over Thompson, Waiters, and Bennett

It just goes to show that scouting and player development are as important if not more important than raw draft position.

Knicks not only don't tank properly they have sucked at drafting for quite a while

[Deeeez Knicks]

Thing about the Cavs is, when they lose LeBron, they bottom out hard

2011: 4th pick (and 1st pick from the Clippers)
2012: 4th pick
2013: 1st pick
2014: 1st pick

gap

2019: 5th pick
2020: 5th pick
2021: 3rd pick

And they had the 8th pick in 2018 from the Nets

So, to put it into perspective, in the last 3 years, they've had 3 top 5 picks. In the last 25 years, we've had 3 top 5 picks (RJ and KP, then you have to go back to Kenny Walker in 1986). And that's mostly ignoring luck cause they dropped 2 spots in both 2019 and 2020, but they did move up 2 spots last draft

In the last 10 years, they've had 7 top 5 picks, where we've had 7 top 5 picks in 45 years (Cazzie Russell, 1st overall pick in 1966, one year before we took Clyde 5th)

It's interesting, the Cavs are both an argument for and against tanking, cause they performed a much more successful tank from 2011-2014, with 2 4th overall selections and 2 1st overall selections (not counting the #1 from the Clippers), but from 2019-2021 they had 2 5th overalls and 1 3rd overall. Yet the players they got from the lesser picks are better

2011-2014 (again, not including the Clippers pick which got them Kyrie), they got Tristan Thompson, Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett, and Andrew Wiggins. Of those 4, Wiggins is the best, but only Thompson ever really contributed to anything. Compared to the current core of Garland, Okoro, and Mobley, even with Wiggins' resurgence in GS, I think you take both Garland and Mobley over him, and Okoro over Thompson, Waiters, and Bennett

It just goes to show that scouting and player development are as important if not more important than raw draft position.

Knicks not only don't tank properly they have sucked at drafting for quite a while

Only the Knicks can both suck at sucking and suck at being good. Its pretty amazing

[knickstape4ever]

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some surprises:

#13 Rose
#26 Burks

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#249 Randle (out of 250)

we can't trade Rose this season but Burks IMO would be a solid trade chip. maybe get a similar return as the Marcus Morris deal

[god shammgod]

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[god shammgod]

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some surprises:

#13 Rose
#26 Burks

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#249 Randle (out of 250)

we can't trade Rose this season but Burks IMO would be a solid trade chip. maybe get a similar return as the Marcus Morris deal

you can get 1st rounders for those 2. and you certainly should do that.

i don't totally buy into this stat. it is interesting though, of qualified players, rose is 1st, burks is 2nd, and then....wait for it...iq & mitch are 3rd and 4th
the worst 3 - randle, fournier & rj in that order......hello everyone...a very good afternoon to you all

[knickstape4ever]

Read on Twitter

some surprises:

#13 Rose
#26 Burks

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.
.

#249 Randle (out of 250)

we can't trade Rose this season but Burks IMO would be a solid trade chip. maybe get a similar return as the Marcus Morris deal

you can get 1st rounders for those 2. and you certainly should do that.

i don't totally buy into this stat. it is interesting though, of qualified players, rose is 1st, burks is 2nd, and then....wait for it...iq & mitch are 3rd and 4th
the worst 3 - randle, fournier & rj in that order......hello everyone...a very good afternoon to you all

we can't trade Rose until the offseason but yeah they should when he's eligible. Burks should be out too, he's got value for any contender. play the youth, stop blocking Deuce and Grimes. we're on our way to a top 10 pick anyways, might as well get there w/ young players and improve our odds