Knicks Get Reddish per Woj

[cgmw]

What makes you think that the FO wants Kemba to sit? Kemba is one of the few players on the roster that can create for himself and for others. Thibs benched him and Kemba played himself back in the rotation but management didn’t bring him in and then trade for another guy so that Thibs doesn’t play the guy they brought in.

Has to be more than this trade because there’s too many people in the rotation.

No no, I think Thibs wants to sit Kemba while Dolan wants to feature Kemba. I’ll take it one further with my tinfoil hat to accuse Thibs of intentionally overplaying Kemba so he’d get hurt.

Thibs doesn’t want Kemba.

My two cents, respectfully, is you're imagining a tug of war but nobody is at the other end of the rope. I don't think Dolan is pulling strings. Do you think Dolan even knows or cares who Cam Reddish is?

Yes, I do think Dolan knows who Cam Reddish is (now) because I’m sure Leon has promised good things.

But you’re missing my point. I think THIBS resents having to play Kemba, and I think he’s petty enough to bench Cam out of spite to the FO.

Again, to repeat myself I think Thibs plays favorites with Derrick Rose and Alec Burks, who will both play the maximum number of minutes Thibs can get away with.

I don’t think Thibs GAF about developing Reddish, and I don’t expect much playing time if the current roster stays in tact and healthy. The only part that has anything to do with Dolan is that Thibs isn’t allowed to bench Kemba, which takes minutes and one more rotation spot away from Cam (because for the fourth time, Thibs will not under any circumstances bench DRose or Burks).

[robillionaire]

No no, I think Thibs wants to sit Kemba while Dolan wants to feature Kemba. I’ll take it one further with my tinfoil hat to accuse Thibs of intentionally overplaying Kemba so he’d get hurt.

Thibs doesn’t want Kemba.

My two cents, respectfully, is you're imagining a tug of war but nobody is at the other end of the rope. I don't think Dolan is pulling strings. Do you think Dolan even knows or cares who Cam Reddish is?

Yes, I do think Dolan knows who Cam Reddish is (now) because I’m sure Leon has promised good things.

But you’re missing my point. I think THIBS resents having to play Kemba, and I think he’s petty enough to bench Cam out of spite to the FO.

Again, to repeat myself I think Thibs plays favorites with Derrick Rose and Alec Burks, who will both play the maximum number of minutes Thibs can get away with.

I don’t think Thibs GAF about developing Reddish, and I don’t expect much playing time if the current roster stays in tact and healthy. The only part that has anything to do with Dolan is that Thibs isn’t allowed to bench Kemba, which takes minutes and one more rotation spot away from Cam (because for the fourth time, Thibs will not under any circumstances bench DRose or Burks).

Thibs playing Rose and Burks is just him playing the players that give the team the best chance of winning and there’s nobody that earned their minutes

[F N 11]

Thibs is going to knock those bad shots out of Cams game hopefully. He hasn’t done it for IQ yet lol.

I mean Thibs isn’t the guy to fix someone’s offensive game. I’m more surprised you’d say that since you’re very critical of him.

You get hooked for taking bad shots under Thibs. Except IQ and Randle.

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It’s only a matter of time folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[K_ick_God]

Even if Dolan is asking to play Kemba and Thibs says no, I fail to see the wickedness of that. They're paying him millions of dollars.

If Dolan didn't demand results from the payroll, how do you expect the basketball decisions to be good?

Eating money is not a good way to make future decisions better.

So there are two ways to see this supposed evil meddling, for which there is scant evidence. Either it's meddling for ego or it's called accountability and holding people to their expensive choices.

[RandlesCornrows]

If we get in on a DMitch deal RJ would be lucky to not be involved. But it’d be a weird fit if he isn’t cause Mitchell is a 2, RJ’s a 2/3, and Cam is a 3.

[whocares1]

Thibs is going to knock those bad shots out of Cams game hopefully. He hasn’t done it for IQ yet lol.

I mean Thibs isn’t the guy to fix someone’s offensive game. I’m more surprised you’d say that since you’re very critical of him.

You get hooked for taking bad shots under Thibs. Except IQ and Randle.

I don’t see that at all. The people that take bad shots continue to take bad shots. I would’ve said “you get the hook if you play bad defense” but to be honest that usually only applies to Obi. I just think for the most part we have a roster of guys that play within themselves on offense with no credit to Thibs. I mean Alec Burks of all people has the super green light.

[TheGreenArrow]

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Killa Cam has arrived folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[whocares1]

Even if Dolan is asking to play Kemba and Thibs says no, I fail to see the wickedness of that. They're paying him millions of dollars.

If Dolan didn't demand results from the payroll, how do you expect the basketball decisions to be good?

Eating money is not a good way to make future decisions better.

So there are two ways to see this supposed evil meddling, for which there is scant evidence. Either it's meddling for ego or it's called accountability and holding people to their expensive choices.

I don’t believe that Dolan is forcing anyone on Thibs. I do believe that Kemba benching was a decision made specifically by Thibs without any outside interference.
I do think that Thibs did not care for the all the press that came with the Kemba benching as well as the press from his tremendous comeback.

But the worst thing of all tho is that I do really really believe that Thibs was reckless with Kemba because he knew Kemba would inevitably break down. Not just the fact that they were short handed I think he did not care at all about preserving Kembas long term health.

[digitaldropoff]

I wanna see the whole terms, but he's probably better than anyone we could've gotten with the Hornets pick, given the protections

Was high on him coming out, bit underwhelming but is good on defense and his shot's coming around

Initially, I like it.

He's a good player, but I think ATL deemed him not worth the development further considering their future cap. The year he'd be due his extension, they are well north of 100 million. Kick the tires on Knox and add another cheap contract with a pick is probably all they thought they could get. Like you, I thought he was going to be way better than he is thus far...but he's still young. He's easily less of a dud than Knox, so for that alone, I think the Knicks win that trade. No first rounder is completely meaningless, but lets be real, most FO's are terrible at drafting.

[BugginOut]

Thibs didn’t want to play Kemba because of defense. Since Kemba has been out we have been trending up towards a top 5 defense. (Though part of that is Mitch looking better)

Pretty sure Thibs would rather keep Kemba out as long as possible. If we keep winning and the starting 5 keeps looking in sync it will be hard to justify bringing Kemba back if he is going to shake up the chemistry

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[newyorker4ever]

i remember this board was in love with fox pre draft and now no one wants him anymore

I remember when this board loved the Fournier signing.

I remember when some on this board thought Ja Morant was overhyped before the draft.

I remember you telling me Franz Wagner was gonna be a bust.

Things change.

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[Garbagelo]

My comment on this trade:

Don't care for Knox

That pick potentially could be vapor

We got a ball dominant slacker who has awful advanced stats

We basically rolled the dice on someone who will keep RJ happy but unlikely to produce anything here because there is no way to get him the ball that he really wants and needs

[3toheadmelo]

i remember this board was in love with fox pre draft and now no one wants him anymore

I remember when this board loved the Fournier signing.

I remember when some on this board thought Ja Morant was overhyped before the draft.

I remember you telling me Franz Wagner was gonna be a bust.

Things change.

i remember you telling me frank was gonna be our savior at PG. things change!

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This is what the FO is waiting for. One more early exit and he can ask out easily

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[knickstape4ever]

You serious? Thibs has developed more young players here than all the other Knicks coaches combined have in 10 years.

RJ, IQ, Grimes, Mitch, Obi, Sims, Deuce all look like legit players under Thibs. Even Knox looked better

Who did Kenny develop? D'Angelo Russell and Caris Levert who Twolves/Pacers fans can’t wait to get rid of or Jarret Allen who is finally playing his best basketball after being traded to the Cavs.

-You can make the argument that RJ and IQ regressed this year (yes, I know RJ has balled the past 5ish games)

-Grimes is solid but you think Thibs is the reason his jumper is wet? nah, that why we drafted him

-Mitch is the pretty much the same player he was his rookie year

-Obi can't crack more than 15mpg as a #8 pick

-McBride has always been a defensive pest and rn he's shooting under 30%

-Sims is the same player he was in college: rebounds and dunks

Kenny did an amazing job in Brooklyn. that roster was a bunch of cast-offs and no-names that he improved every year. guys like Joe Harris, Spencer Dinwiddie....those were G-league players before Kenny and now they are solid, well-paid NBA starters

And with all that talent they barely made the 8th seed in the weak East

I don’t agree with your notion that RJ and IQ have regressed. Though their shooting numbers are down they are clearly better players than last year.

Obi is being used optimally by Thibs. And more than 20 minutes and his impact is diminished.

Grimes, Deuce and Sims were all projected 2nd round picks. The reason they are playing well is because Thibs let’s them know their role and puts them in a position to succeed. The training staff worked with them all summer. You can see the improvement from Sims from preseason to his first regular season game. It’s night and day

If you giving Kenny all that credit than you should also give credit to Thibs for making Randle 2nd team All-NBA, since both Dinwiddie and Harris have been terrible as well this year.

If Kenny was a good coach he’d still be coaching. There is no chance he would do a better job with this roster than Thibs has.

C 31 Allen, Jarrett
F 9 Carroll, DeMarre
G/F 33 Crabbe, Allen
C 17 Davis, Ed
G 8 Dinwiddie, Spencer
F 6 Dudley, Jared
F 21 Graham, Treveon
G/F 12 Harris, Joe
F 24 Hollis-Jefferson, Rondae
F 00 Kurucs, Rodions
G 22 LeVert, Caris
G/F 30 Musa, Džanan
G 13 Napier, Shabazz
G/F 10 Pinson, Theo
G 1 Russell, D'Angelo
F/C 15 Williams, Alan (TW)

you can't look at this roster in 2018/19 and say "all that talent" as if this is a team that is expected to do well, c'mon that's revisionist history. Kenny did an amazing job in BKN

chill. how can you even utter the words "if Kenny was a good coach" as if he isn't a good coach. c'mon

+ according to NBA GM's, he's the best assistant coach in the league

you're praising Deuce like he's not shooting 28%. Sims is a very limited player (good at what he does, no doubt) but he's still the same guy he was in college. and Grimes is a shooter. Thibs didn't teach him how to shoot, and if we all remember, he was lighting it up at the combine, so there were definitely flashes pre-Thibs

you could make the argument that these players could be doing more if Thibs wasn't so stubborn to play vets instead

[newyorker4ever]

i remember this board was in love with fox pre draft and now no one wants him anymore

I remember when this board loved the Fournier signing.

I remember when some on this board thought Ja Morant was overhyped before the draft.

I remember you telling me Franz Wagner was gonna be a bust.

Things change.

i remember you telling me frank was gonna be our savior at PG. things change!

Hahaha don't be lyin now.