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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1781 » by F N 11 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:41 am

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Unc is saying that Prime isn't gonna let Shedeur come here :noway: i believe him. He knows them personally.

This entire clip makes me embarrassed to even be a fan of this team

Shannon hates on giants. Pat Mcafee does the same. I guess that comes when you’re the punching bag. Implying you know prime wouldn’t do it as if Giants have some underlying issue is crazy. Dan Campbell spoke at half said his team would come back and they did. We don’t got that type of energy here.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1782 » by Ghetto Gospel » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:44 am

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we need fall no lower than 2 at mini which would 100%

Guarantee us Ward Or SS

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I'm still not sure on SS...the whole where he wants to play stuff...not sure if he's the right fit for the NY media market.

Cam Ward is by far my #1...he has a great head on his shoulders as well. But Milroe is certainly interesting if you believe you can get the passing ability up to snuff. Your talking a more athletic version of Jalen Hurts if everything works out.


We need someone that can actually get through his progressions before defecating in his pants...I dunno if we can afford to draft someone whose passing isn't there yet but what do i know, I barely watch college :lol:


i dont want him either. he has access to the best coaches, weapons and o-line he could want and he still isn't a good passer in college. it's too risky to take a guy that can't do it at the college level when he has all the support in the world
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1783 » by DOT » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:22 pm

To be fair, Jayden Daniels didn't really break out as a passer until his 5th year, while Milroe is only in his 4th

My suggestion is gonna be the same thing I keep saying. If you're not sure on a QB, don't force it. Timing is everything, you don't want to take a guy this year then have to pass on guys next year who turn out better. But if you do take a QB, I would suggest sitting them for the whole year. I've come around to the idea that sitting benefits most QBs, and even if not all of them, I don't think it really hurts.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1784 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:51 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:Small win. Evan Neal looked good or at least didn't have many negative plays.


Wonder how he graded out.


I saw in passing, his grade was like mid 80s. Shocking development to say the least


PFF grades were just released an he graded our at 80.6 overall our best offensive player (not saying much because our offense is ass) and its still the panthers who don't have many good players.

But I'll take what I can get...he should start the rest of the season to see what we can salvage.


If we can come out of this mess with Neal suddenly becoming viable, that a massive W for this franchise
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1785 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:52 pm

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We cannot risk him getting hurt. Danny needs to be deactivated


That probably is the way to go.... Plus I am good with never having to see him starting as a giants QB again


Schefter is saying that it's a wrap for Jones. I hope so.

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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1786 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Nov 12, 2024 4:20 pm

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Unc is saying that Prime isn't gonna let Shedeur come here :noway: i believe him. He knows them personally.

This entire clip makes me embarrassed to even be a fan of this team

Shannon hates on giants. Pat Mcafee does the same. I guess that comes when you’re the punching bag. Implying you know prime wouldn’t do it as if Giants have some underlying issue is crazy. Dan Campbell spoke at half said his team would come back and they did. We don’t got that type of energy here.


The one thing I'll say is that this isn't the first time I've heard that Deion doesn't want his son anywhere near here.

I don't know what Deion has against the Giants. Yeah we're not perfect but I don't recall the Giants ever doing something so egregious that it would scare away anyone. I think it has to do with the market.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1787 » by F N 11 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 12:32 am

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Unc is saying that Prime isn't gonna let Shedeur come here :noway: i believe him. He knows them personally.

This entire clip makes me embarrassed to even be a fan of this team

Shannon hates on giants. Pat Mcafee does the same. I guess that comes when you’re the punching bag. Implying you know prime wouldn’t do it as if Giants have some underlying issue is crazy. Dan Campbell spoke at half said his team would come back and they did. We don’t got that type of energy here.


The one thing I'll say is that this isn't the first time I've heard that Deion doesn't want his son anywhere near here.

I don't know what Deion has against the Giants. Yeah we're not perfect but I don't recall the Giants ever doing something so egregious that it would scare away anyone. I think it has to do with the market.

I hope it’s not underlying racism bc they haven’t had a black QB. Not tryna hear “can he handle NyC media garbage” what they really saying is, will he get in trouble?
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1788 » by F N 11 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 12:36 am

Hearing rumors Jones is benched bc he didn’t waive his injury guarantee.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1789 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Nov 13, 2024 12:41 am

F N 11 wrote:
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F N 11 wrote:Shannon hates on giants. Pat Mcafee does the same. I guess that comes when you’re the punching bag. Implying you know prime wouldn’t do it as if Giants have some underlying issue is crazy. Dan Campbell spoke at half said his team would come back and they did. We don’t got that type of energy here.


The one thing I'll say is that this isn't the first time I've heard that Deion doesn't want his son anywhere near here.

I don't know what Deion has against the Giants. Yeah we're not perfect but I don't recall the Giants ever doing something so egregious that it would scare away anyone. I think it has to do with the market.

I hope it’s not underlying racism bc they haven’t had a black QB. Not tryna hear “can he handle NyC media garbage” what they really saying is, will he get in trouble?


I have no clue.

I'm not even remotely concerned about Shedeur getting into trouble. He's not some bad kid as far as ive seen. Is he a little cocky and flashy? Yeah, i mean. He's obviously gonna emulate his Dad. But i never heard or read anything about him getting into trouble. I just wonder why his dad wouldn't want him to play here. Unless he's just hellbent on Shedeur not going to a rough situation, but literally every team he'd go on if he's drafted top 5 sucks. At least here we have Malik, and Tracy is looking like he'll be our starting RB for the foreseeable future. That's two weapons right there at least lol

Either way I don't want any drama or issues I just want someone with talent and a chance to become really good if we put the right pieces around him. So it is what it is
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1790 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Nov 13, 2024 12:42 am

F N 11 wrote:Hearing rumors Jones is benched bc he didn’t waive his injury guarantee.


He would be a fool to do that.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

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Post#1792 » by KOA » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:03 am

Any chance the Giants hire Deion if they draft SS?
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1793 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:29 am

Look at the end of the day, letting Barkley go was the best thing that the Giants could have done for him. Dude already passed 1100 yards and is averaging nearly 6 yards per attempt. It's clear what the problem was and it wasn't Saquon
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1794 » by DOT » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:11 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Look at the end of the day, letting Barkley go was the best thing that the Giants could have done for him. Dude already passed 1100 yards and is averaging nearly 6 yards per attempt. It's clear what the problem was and it wasn't Saquon

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He's more or less the same player he was with you guys, it's just the Eagles have a better line/playcalling.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1795 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:16 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Look at the end of the day, letting Barkley go was the best thing that the Giants could have done for him. Dude already passed 1100 yards and is averaging nearly 6 yards per attempt. It's clear what the problem was and it wasn't Saquon


They had to let him go and it was the right decision. But all the moves leading up to it and the way it was televised was a real bad look. Still a big L for the Giants even if it was the right decision
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1796 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:55 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Look at the end of the day, letting Barkley go was the best thing that the Giants could have done for him. Dude already passed 1100 yards and is averaging nearly 6 yards per attempt. It's clear what the problem was and it wasn't Saquon

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He's more or less the same player he was with you guys, it's just the Eagles have a better line/playcalling.


Yeah, Philly has better everything than us so it's good to see him maximize his talent after the last few years of him basically having to grind for 4 yards a carry while being beaten up.

What an L for us.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1797 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:57 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Look at the end of the day, letting Barkley go was the best thing that the Giants could have done for him. Dude already passed 1100 yards and is averaging nearly 6 yards per attempt. It's clear what the problem was and it wasn't Saquon


They had to let him go and it was the right decision. But all the moves leading up to it and the way it was televised was a real bad look. Still a big L for the Giants even if it was the right decision


Schoen looks really bad. The fact that the Giants even allowed that to air makes me question everything about the organization

I have no issue letting Saquon go. It was a necessary evil. But damn it stings. Especially when the narrative is "Giants chose Jones over Barkley"
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Post#1798 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:06 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
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MrDollarBills wrote:Look at the end of the day, letting Barkley go was the best thing that the Giants could have done for him. Dude already passed 1100 yards and is averaging nearly 6 yards per attempt. It's clear what the problem was and it wasn't Saquon


They had to let him go and it was the right decision. But all the moves leading up to it and the way it was televised was a real bad look. Still a big L for the Giants even if it was the right decision


Schoen looks really bad. The fact that the Giants even allowed that to air makes me question everything about the organization

I have no issue letting Saquon go. It was a necessary evil. But damn it stings. Especially when the narrative is "Giants chose Jones over Barkley"


Barkley going to the eagles is what stings the most but nothing we could do about that.

Hard knocks comes off really bad. Some of those episodes they are acting like they are building a super team. "We are not paying Daniel Jones $40mil to hand the ball off to a $12mil RB".....I mean, we shouldn't be paying Daniel Jones $40mil in any situation :lol:

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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#1799 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:16 pm

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They had to let him go and it was the right decision. But all the moves leading up to it and the way it was televised was a real bad look. Still a big L for the Giants even if it was the right decision


Schoen looks really bad. The fact that the Giants even allowed that to air makes me question everything about the organization

I have no issue letting Saquon go. It was a necessary evil. But damn it stings. Especially when the narrative is "Giants chose Jones over Barkley"


Barkley going to the eagles is what stings the most but nothing we could do about that.

Hard knocks comes off really bad. Some of those episodes they are acting like they are building a super team. "We are not paying Daniel Jones $40mil to hand the ball off to a $12mil RB".....I mean, we shouldn't be paying Daniel Jones $40mil in any situation :lol:

We really need to clean house.


Schoen and Daboll need to go but Mara needs to also fire his damn relatives in the front office too.

I know correlation isn't causation but the timing of Mara hiring Chris Mara to be the senior personnel consultant and the Giants falling off a cliff is hard for me to ignore.

Take the #1 pick, salvage what little talent we have and start over. The situation is bad but getting Jones off the books and still having AT, Dex, Malik, Tracy, Phillips, etc to build with really shouldn't be hard for a competent regime to handle.
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Post#1800 » by TerrenceClarke » Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:38 pm

Im trying to figure out what the Schoen fans saw in the first place. I think people was so happy that it was not getty they bypassed all the red flags from day one. Dude did nothing to deserve to be the GM of the Giants. He literally had no track record of evaluation. no nothing. His claim to fame is that he is a good talker thats it. He is the type of dude that interviews well, but once they get the Job you can clearly see they cant handle it. Like his only mark here is that he got Electronic Drafting Equipment ? lol

Im not trying to toot my own horn, but this was an obviously a bad move from the Jump, because it was NOT GENUINE in nature. People really dismissed the fact the Giants were bringing black coaches with NO intention of hiring them at some point. Its why FLores was so pissed he started a law suit cause he saw it was just pandering and it was not sincere. Maybe it was sincere at one point with Mara, but he switched gears real fast. People were were cheering hard for this Duo that summer and dismissed the giants playing with the rooney rule. Just cause they wanted some fake ass wonder duo from Buffalo. What pissed me of the most was Leslie Frazier cause they were doing it up till the end. It was so Obvious the Giants were pump faking.

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