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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1781 » by Worm Guts » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:37 pm

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I've never seen a "media" work so hard to lay blame of an assassination on the (near)victim of the assassination. Between this and the whole criminal charges, it appears to me that some very powerful people don't want Trump in office. What exactly are the afraid of..an America with a backbone? Unlike the last election, this one is going to pretty tough for them to fix..


This kind of comment is amusing. It doesn't take rocket scientist to figure out why people wouldn't want Trump in power. Some people like democracy.

So does your definition of democracy include using the media as a tool to push a one sided narrative? It's funny how anyone who disagrees or questions this narrative receives some form of condescension or derision as a response. That doesn't sound very democratic to me.


My definition of democracy means having a president that doesn't try to bully election officials into changing election results (on recorded audio).
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1782 » by robillionaire » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:40 pm

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I've never seen a "media" work so hard to lay blame of an assassination on the (near)victim of the assassination. Between this and the whole criminal charges, it appears to me that some very powerful people don't want Trump in office. What exactly are the afraid of..an America with a backbone? Unlike the last election, this one is going to pretty tough for them to fix..


This kind of comment is amusing. It doesn't take rocket scientist to figure out why people wouldn't want Trump in power. Some people like democracy.

So does your definition of democracy include using the media as a tool to push a one sided narrative? It's funny how anyone who disagrees or questions this narrative receives some form of condescension or derision as a response. That doesn't sound very democratic to me.


Have you actually listened to the media lately? They’re owned by power hungry oligarchs and they’ve been working overtime bending over backwards to normalize the criminal takeover of the country and the finalization of an autocratic regime so they can enrich themselves further. Nothing they say lines up with any of my positions as far as I’m concerned
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1783 » by RHODEY » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:43 pm

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Very interesting that Trump has a database of gun owners.

Totally normal, I'm sure.


I've never seen a "media" work so hard to lay blame of an assassination on the (near)victim of the assassination. Between this and the whole criminal charges, it appears to me that some very powerful people don't want Trump in office. What exactly are the afraid of..an America with a backbone? Unlike the last election, this one is going to pretty tough for them to fix..



Don’t want to get called stupid or crazy for believing anything besides the official narrative now…. Get accused of thinking you’re smarter than everyone else too if you ask questions or claim there was a conspiracy.

In actuality you’re simply just not as trustworthy of government and asking what happened when there is still an ongoing investigation and barely any information released.

I dunno what happened 100%, but shyts getting weirder by the day. The kid wearing glasses and not being a great shot in HS isn’t enough for me to write him off completely right now… this is a basketball forum, we know dudes can improve their shots in 2 years.. how do we know he didn’t higher Drew Hanlen as a coach on the DL? :D

If it wasn’t for Donald turning last second, he’d be dead. Still can’t get over how insanely close it was, it’s not even a testament to bad shooting, it’s more so the pure luck or divine intervention or some shyt. It’s really mind boggling how close this was.

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Right, it was extremely close, and imagine if it did hit? No matter how you feel about Trump that would be a very bad look for America. IMO its already a bad look... the ones that get taken out are generally seen as legit threats to the status quo.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1784 » by RHODEY » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:44 pm

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This kind of comment is amusing. It doesn't take rocket scientist to figure out why people wouldn't want Trump in power. Some people like democracy.

So does your definition of democracy include using the media as a tool to push a one sided narrative? It's funny how anyone who disagrees or questions this narrative receives some form of condescension or derision as a response. That doesn't sound very democratic to me.


Have you actually listened to the media lately? They’re owned by power hungry oligarchs and they’ve been working overtime bending over backwards to normalize the criminal takeover of the country and the finalization of an autocratic regime so they can enrich themselves further. Nothing they say lines up with any of my positions as far as I’m concerned


You get it :nod:
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1785 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:46 pm

dakomish23 wrote:I'm surprised this thread is only 89 pages :lol:


89 pages of sadness and disappointment tbh. Some of these comments are beyond the pale.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1786 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:49 pm

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I've never seen a "media" work so hard to lay blame of an assassination on the (near)victim of the assassination. Between this and the whole criminal charges, it appears to me that some very powerful people don't want Trump in office. What exactly are the afraid of..an America with a backbone? Unlike the last election, this one is going to pretty tough for them to fix..



Don’t want to get called stupid or crazy for believing anything besides the official narrative now…. Get accused of thinking you’re smarter than everyone else too if you ask questions or claim there was a conspiracy.

In actuality you’re simply just not as trustworthy of government and asking what happened when there is still an ongoing investigation and barely any information released.

I dunno what happened 100%, but shyts getting weirder by the day. The kid wearing glasses and not being a great shot in HS isn’t enough for me to write him off completely right now… this is a basketball forum, we know dudes can improve their shots in 2 years.. how do we know he didn’t higher Drew Hanlen as a coach on the DL? :D

If it wasn’t for Donald turning last second, he’d be dead. Still can’t get over how insanely close it was, it’s not even a testament to bad shooting, it’s more so the pure luck or divine intervention or some shyt. It’s really mind boggling how close this was.

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Right, it was extremely close, and imagine if it did hit? No matter how you feel about Trump that would be a very bad look for America. IMO its already a bad look... the ones that get taken out are generally seen as legit threats to the status quo.



Bro tbh, I haven't seen one person in this thread condone what happened on Saturday. I think we're all in agreement that this is awful, regardless of whether you like Trump or not. Someone died ffs and we have people in this thread that don't even care, they just think this makes Trump look "bad ass". It's madness
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1787 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:50 pm

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This kind of comment is amusing. It doesn't take rocket scientist to figure out why people wouldn't want Trump in power. Some people like democracy.

So does your definition of democracy include using the media as a tool to push a one sided narrative? It's funny how anyone who disagrees or questions this narrative receives some form of condescension or derision as a response. That doesn't sound very democratic to me.


My definition of democracy means having a president that doesn't try to bully election officials into changing election results (on recorded audio).


That's my definition as well. It's amazing what people condone from CONVICTED FELON Trump. Rapes, calls for violence, staging a coup, etc. If Biden behaved 1/10th like Trump they would be clutching pearls.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1788 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:50 pm

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This kind of comment is amusing. It doesn't take rocket scientist to figure out why people wouldn't want Trump in power. Some people like democracy.

So does your definition of democracy include using the media as a tool to push a one sided narrative? It's funny how anyone who disagrees or questions this narrative receives some form of condescension or derision as a response. That doesn't sound very democratic to me.


My definition of democracy means having a president that doesn't try to bully election officials into changing election results (on recorded audio).


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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1789 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:51 pm

Fundamentally, Americans became too stupid to support a democracy. It happens, eventually, to all of them.

Should have never broke with England.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1790 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:51 pm

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I don't think I've seen anybody suggest that everyone a right to come in come into the country unvetted. You are just way more fired up about it. I don't think it's the most important issue, and certainly not worth electing someone like Trump over. I don't think there's any justification for electing someone like Trump. If you can't find a decent person to represent your position, then maybe you should question how decent your position is.

It's been said in this thread and implied when anyone who wants to slow down illegal immigration are called racists.


Neutral123, you've been calm, collected and made respectful arguments this whole time... yet somehow you get labeled "racist/dog whistler/xxxxphobe/bad person" because you challenge ideas/policies of the left. It's there main play.

Don't agree with my stance? you're racist
Not becoming an "anti-racist" activist? you're racist

Just cry racist, play the victim, hunker down, reinforce your position, rinse repeat.
Like Justin Trudeau labeling the entire trucker protest as "racist/mysogonists/bad people". It's lazy. It's not constructive. I'd even go to say it's evil.

I believe the MSM and this administration pushing this stuff is evil, keeps pushing this BS narrative that racism is the #1 problem in USA (I don't think it's #1, my opinion) and keeps dividing us more.
And Trump is the perfect figurehead to pin these labels on.

These words and labels have lost there original meaning and weight.


Dude has made multiple racist statements. Just because you agree with his racism doesn't make it any less so. Do better.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1791 » by robillionaire » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:52 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:I'm surprised this thread is only 89 pages :lol:


89 pages of sadness and disappointment tbh. Some of these comments are beyond the pale.


Sometimes it’s good to remind ourselves of what lies on the other side what’s at stake and get motivated to do something constructive
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1792 » by Riot Randolph » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:52 pm

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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1793 » by Worm Guts » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:52 pm

RHODEY wrote:
spree8 wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
I've never seen a "media" work so hard to lay blame of an assassination on the (near)victim of the assassination. Between this and the whole criminal charges, it appears to me that some very powerful people don't want Trump in office. What exactly are the afraid of..an America with a backbone? Unlike the last election, this one is going to pretty tough for them to fix..



Don’t want to get called stupid or crazy for believing anything besides the official narrative now…. Get accused of thinking you’re smarter than everyone else too if you ask questions or claim there was a conspiracy.

In actuality you’re simply just not as trustworthy of government and asking what happened when there is still an ongoing investigation and barely any information released.

I dunno what happened 100%, but shyts getting weirder by the day. The kid wearing glasses and not being a great shot in HS isn’t enough for me to write him off completely right now… this is a basketball forum, we know dudes can improve their shots in 2 years.. how do we know he didn’t higher Drew Hanlen as a coach on the DL? :D

If it wasn’t for Donald turning last second, he’d be dead. Still can’t get over how insanely close it was, it’s not even a testament to bad shooting, it’s more so the pure luck or divine intervention or some shyt. It’s really mind boggling how close this was.

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Right, it was extremely close, and imagine if it did hit? No matter how you feel about Trump that would be a very bad look for America. IMO its already a bad look... the ones that get taken out are generally seen as legit threats to the status quo.


I think a lot of people get taken taken out because of bad luck, wrong place wrong time, or some reason other than being a threat to the status quo.
It's not that there couldn't have been a conspiracy. It's that there doesn't need to be. If evidence comes out that suggests there was, I'm perfectly willing to adjust my opinion. I'm just not willing to jump to unfounded conclusions.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1794 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:52 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Fundamentally, Americans became too stupid to support a democracy. It happens, eventually, to all of them.

Should have never broke with England.


It is fairly obvious that 30% of the population want a king and not a president of a democratic republic
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1795 » by Riot Randolph » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:53 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Fundamentally, Americans became too stupid to support a democracy. It happens, eventually, to all of them.

Should have never broke with England.

I think there is a lot of truth to this
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1796 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:54 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:Fundamentally, Americans became too stupid to support a democracy. It happens, eventually, to all of them.

Should have never broke with England.

I think there is a lot of truth to this


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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1797 » by robillionaire » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:55 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:Fundamentally, Americans became too stupid to support a democracy. It happens, eventually, to all of them.

Should have never broke with England.

I think thier is a lot of truth to this


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Post#1798 » by Sedale Threatt » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:57 pm

St Knick wrote:Neutral123, you've been calm, collected and made respectful arguments this whole time... yet somehow you get labeled "racist/dog whistler/xxxxphobe/bad person" because you challenge ideas/policies of the left. It's there main play.


So just because somebody says repugnant, ignorant sht in a "respectful" manner, it's all good? How the hell does that work?

Take the birther nonsense. That was flagrantly, unequivocally racist, based on nothing other than the fact that Obama was a biracial dude born with a non-traditional (i.e. white-sounding) name. That's it.

Hawaii is an American state, no different for legal purposes than Maine or Montana or New Mexico. There is nothing strange or unusual about that. His mother was an American citizen. His dad was foreign. There is nothing strange or unusual than that. If his dad had been, say, English or French or Dutch -- every bit a non-American as somebody from Kenya -- named William Allen instead of Barack Hussein, it would have been total a non-issue.

(Side note: It reminds me of a poster a while back on the CA board who tried to downplay studies that showed people with ethnic-sounding names were granted interviews and hired at a lower rate than white people not because of racism -- it can never be racism -- but because all the Dontrells and Shaniquas who came before them were bad employees who poisoned the well.)

But of course it was an issue, because the usual conservative shtbags took the same opportunity to blow the dog whistle that Nixon did with law and order, Reagan did with welfare queens, Bush did with prison furloughs, Trump did with immigration and on and on and on. It's fundamentally baked into the cake that is conservatism, especially the American variety. This is what they do.

If they had been legitimately asking questions instead of the usual JAQing off variety, the release of his birth certificate in 08 would have been the end of it. It continued to drag on, driven by Trump and idiot conspiracy theorists like Jerome Corsi, who among a vast array of other nonsense is a 9/11 truther, argued that the U.S. is secretly aiding Iran's nuclear program and wrote a book that Hitler actually escaped the Allies (Roger Stone loved it).

When Obama left office in 16, almost 3/4s of Republicans still doubted his citizenship despite zero tangible evidence to the contrary. Very similar to how almost 3/4s of Republicans still doubt Biden's election win despite zero tangible evidence to the contrary. This is who they are, and this is what they do.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1799 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:57 pm

RHODEY wrote:
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I've never seen a "media" work so hard to lay blame of an assassination on the (near)victim of the assassination. Between this and the whole criminal charges, it appears to me that some very powerful people don't want Trump in office. What exactly are the afraid of..an America with a backbone? Unlike the last election, this one is going to pretty tough for them to fix..


This kind of comment is amusing. It doesn't take rocket scientist to figure out why people wouldn't want Trump in power. Some people like democracy.

So does your definition of democracy include using the media as a tool to push a one sided narrative? It's funny how anyone who disagrees or questions this narrative receives some form of condescension or derision as a response. That doesn't sound very "democratic" to me.


The same media that spent the last few weeks trying to get Biden forced out of the race?

Also, Trump has been calling for violence against his political opponents since 2016. He even staged an insurrection. Who else is going to be blamed for political violence BUT him? Biden wasn't the one talking about a "2nd ammendment solution" for a political opponent, that's all Trump.

He owns this.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1800 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:00 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:Fundamentally, Americans became too stupid to support a democracy. It happens, eventually, to all of them.

Should have never broke with England.

I think thier is a lot of truth to this


“Were humans too stupid to govern themselves” will be an interesting topic if an alien species ever lands here and dicovers our ruins


Human beings are vile sh*ts. Violence and cruelty is a feature, not a bug. All the humanitarian stuff and good works are outliers, and the very first things right out the window once the stress levels go up even one iota.

The faster climate change wipes out the species, the better.

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