Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread

[GONYK]

Genuine question: What does Windy thinking we have bad process cost us?

What would Stein reporting that rival execs thinking we had good process gain us?

[3toheadmelo]

No one I've seen mentioned is a significant downgrade from Thibs.

Mike brown is definitely a significant downgrade.

He may be a downgrade, but not by much. The offense would be a lot better, and our defense wasn't great anyway.

Mike brown is one of the worst defensive coaches in the league. You won’t be able to talk me into him. No thanks.

And if you’re admitting he’s a downgrade, that means you’re in agreement that our strategy clearly hasn’t worked if that’s the result of it.

[Fat Kat]

But they almost never ran PnR either. They were pretty much full transition.

I would think maximizing Brunson and KAT PnR is high on the priority list.

I'm still trying to figure out whose the problem in the PnR situation. I can't remember, but I recall him and KP had decent chemistry with the PnR. I also remember JB using him as a certified lob threat. Knicks need those actions back. I know KAT sets some of the weakness picks/screens, but it still confuses me on who to blame on this.

It's KAT.

He never actually sets a screen

Sure he does. He just thinks you set a screen by shoving with 2 hands.

[Context]

I've had a busy morning and just signed back in.
Has CRASH OUT: Day 2 started yet??

Don’t forget about the “troll out”!!

[Fury]

Mike brown is definitely a significant downgrade.

He may be a downgrade, but not by much. The offense would be a lot better, and our defense wasn't great anyway.

Mike brown is one of the worst defensive coaches in the league. You won’t be able to talk me into him. No thanks.

And if you’re admitting he’s a downgrade, that means you’re in agreement that our strategy clearly hasn’t worked if that’s the result of it.

But that's not the result of it, and I was responding to you saying it's a significant downgrade, which he's not. Our strategy has even't been completed yet, what are we talking about here?

Mike Brown also with different personnel coached some good defensive teams in Cleveland.

[3toheadmelo]

He may be a downgrade, but not by much. The offense would be a lot better, and our defense wasn't great anyway.

Mike brown is one of the worst defensive coaches in the league. You won’t be able to talk me into him. No thanks.

And if you’re admitting he’s a downgrade, that means you’re in agreement that our strategy clearly hasn’t worked if that’s the result of it.

But that's not the result of it, and I was responding to you saying it's a significant downgrade, which he's not. Our strategy has even't been completed yet, what are we talking about here?

You just said no one we’ve been linked to is a downgrade and I just gave you a name. So what are you talking about?

[Fury]

Mike brown is one of the worst defensive coaches in the league. You won’t be able to talk me into him. No thanks.

And if you’re admitting he’s a downgrade, that means you’re in agreement that our strategy clearly hasn’t worked if that’s the result of it.

But that's not the result of it, and I was responding to you saying it's a significant downgrade, which he's not. Our strategy has even't been completed yet, what are we talking about here?

You just said no one we’ve been linked to is a downgrade and I just gave you a name. So what are you talking about?

Didn't you say significant downgrade?

[3toheadmelo]

But that's not the result of it, and I was responding to you saying it's a significant downgrade, which he's not. Our strategy has even't been completed yet, what are we talking about here?

You just said no one we’ve been linked to is a downgrade and I just gave you a name. So what are you talking about?

Didn't you say significant downgrade?

Yes, which he absolutely is.

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[Fury]

You just said no one we’ve been linked to is a downgrade and I just gave you a name. So what are you talking about?

Didn't you say significant downgrade?

Yes, which he absolutely is.

Okay, so we disagreed. That's what we're talking about.

[3toheadmelo]

Didn't you say significant downgrade?

Yes, which he absolutely is.

Okay, so we disagreed. That's what we're talking about.

You’re just arguing about semantics. A downgrade is a downgrade, significant or not. That’s a terrible strategy if it results in one.

[Fury]

Yes, which he absolutely is.

Okay, so we disagreed. That's what we're talking about.

You’re just arguing about semantics. A downgrade is a downgrade, significant or not. That’s a terrible strategy if it results in one.

When I said that he may be one, I meant that it was arguable. In some ways he's had more success in the NBA than Thibs. He also is a better offensive coach. You can make an argument that he isn't a downgrade. I know you won't but it's not fact. It's not semantics if it's arguable. I just meant that if he is, it's not a significant difference.

[Capn'O]

Just based on Mikes, Mike Brown is like 6th on my list of potential candidates.

Mike Bud
Mike Woodson
Mike Malone
Mike Miller
Mike D'Antoni

[3toheadmelo]

Just based on Mikes, Mike Brown is like 6th on my list of potential candidates.

Mike Bud
Mike Woodson
Mike Malone
Mike Miller
Mike D'Antoni

Bruh I just read this… we might be cooked

Brown profiles as an interesting option, as he has a close relationship with Knicks executive vice president William Wesley (aka “Worldwide Wes”) that dates back to the mid-2000s when Brown was coaching LeBron James’ Cleveland Cavaliers (Wesley, at that time, was a league-wide power broker and one of James’ primary confidantes).

[Wildcat]

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Holy moly, I needed to raise my volume to 1000 to hear this.

[Capn'O]

Just based on Mikes, Mike Brown is like 6th on my list of potential candidates.

Mike Bud
Mike Woodson
Mike Malone
Mike Miller
Mike D'Antoni

Bruh I just read this… we might be cooked

Brown profiles as an interesting option, as he has a close relationship with Knicks executive vice president William Wesley (aka “Worldwide Wes”) that dates back to the mid-2000s when Brown was coaching LeBron James’ Cleveland Cavaliers (Wesley, at that time, was a league-wide power broker and one of James’ primary confidantes).

I'm not gonna panic about a hire until it's a hire.

[stuporman]

There are fine people on both sides of the argument but I'm hearing that the finest people are only on one side of it. I'm sure there are some nice people on the other side, although, some are saying the very best people are only on one side of it.

[Jeff Van Gully]

We care if it results in getting a significant downgrade from Thibs ontknow:

come on. you know that's not what he's talking about.

he's talking bout what the search strategy looks like. you trying to take it somewhere else.

That is what me and a couple others are talking about which you seem to miss our points every time. We’re shooting our shots at coaches that we know we have no shot at and it’s looking like we’ll have to settle for someone like Mike Brown, who’s a massive downgrade . I don’t know how you fire a very high caliber coach without a great replacement lined up.

your point couldn't be clearer.

it's mine that seems to be missed.

i hear all of that. that's a different conversation from someone discussing confusion or concern with search methodology. you're going straight to outcomes. and it aligns with a point you've made... many times over... and not always in the best of faith with your fellow posters.

[WaltFrazier]

Mike brown is definitely a significant downgrade.

He may be a downgrade, but not by much. The offense would be a lot better, and our defense wasn't great anyway.

Mike brown is one of the worst defensive coaches in the league. You won’t be able to talk me into him. No thanks.

And if you’re admitting he’s a downgrade, that means you’re in agreement that our strategy clearly hasn’t worked if that’s the result of it.

I thought when he was with Cleveland, Brown was considered all defense, like that was his specialty or focus

[NYKat]

Leon can't win at this point with this hire and we will get trolled and laughed at regardless UNLESS Kidd somehow ends up here which I think is unlikely since he's hired two assistants. So how do you sell hiring Bryant or Brown after all this? I think you could sell someone like Malone and Budenholzer because they come with championship pedigree but everyone else is going to get heavily bashed. I don't think Leon played this right. We shouldn't cry over spilled milk but we should've held on to Thibs and fired him when we had a clear guy or two in mind. Getting rejected left and right and getting laughed at is not a good look.

imagine your employer interviewing people behind your back before you are fired...I'm sure that would go over real well. Like Thibs wouldn't get wind of other potential coaches getting interviewed to replace him?

What coach would interview for the job knowing thibs hasn't been officially fired yet?

Come on man.

It’s still better than not having a plan, IMO