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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#181 » by DowNY » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:52 am

siar617 wrote:Now that Meeks is down Detroit should be becoming ripe for a robbery. Give em Hardaway Larkin Outlaw for Monroe and Dinwiddie :nod: :nod:

How bad is he hurt?
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#182 » by Boarder Patrol » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:07 pm

siar617 wrote:Now that Meeks is down Detroit should be becoming ripe for a robbery. Give em Hardaway Larkin Outlaw for Monroe and Dinwiddie :nod: :nod:


I believe it's a stress fracture in his back which typically isn't that bad, 6-8 weeks.
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#183 » by siar617 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:03 pm

Back injury is never simple. He will over compansate somewhere else an get injured. He's done was just a role player anyway. Makes way to bring father and son together and bring Monroe to the Darkside
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#184 » by NoLayupRule » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:31 pm

Meat wrote:after seeing how people are having difficulty picking up the triangle, with a summer league and a training camp does anyone actually think that they knicks are going to make a big trade this year?

this is a good point


I domt see it as very likely that the knicks make any trades to get better, with an exception that follows

I think the only trades that happen would be to add young talent for the future, to pick up assets like picks or to move salary to be better positioned for 2015 summer


the exception would be if one of two things happen

1} if Phil sees a player available this year who is better than what we can expect to land in free agency in the summer and therefor worth the gamble. Someone like Marc Gasol or perhaps Drummond or certainly Aldridge or someone. Thats very unlikely of course

2} if Phil is really set on 2016 and Durant and the new cap. We could add a player like Hibbert, Gordon or even Kobe. A player with the right skills to upgrade the team significantly and who expires instead in 2016 with the cap jump might be a smart two way investment that the fans can handle.


For example imagine Kobe comes here for Amare and Smith or something. he's gonna eat up all the cap space for 2015 but be an exciting addition who expires in 2016 and could either remain for less, recruit with melo or retire

this is also very unlikely
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#185 » by Knicksfan1992 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:46 pm

On more of a smaller scale, Budinger could help us a lot if he can get over his injury bug. Was a lights out shooter 2 years ago. Still only 26 years old and has some nice athleticism. He would cut into next years cap though if he takes his player option.
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#186 » by moocow007 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:27 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:On more of a smaller scale, Budinger could help us a lot if he can get over his injury bug. Was a lights out shooter 2 years ago. Still only 26 years old and has some nice athleticism. He would cut into next years cap though if he takes his player option.


Hes injury prone. His injuries have revolved around his knees with multiple meniscus tears...which is hardly reassuring about his durability or future. He's shot well from deep in just 2 if his 5 NBA seasons. He is a mediocre defender and if his shot isn't falling (and more often than not its not falling) he is pretty much useless on the floor. He's got a $5 million player option for next season which, given that he's not going to get enough playing time to justify anyone giving him more than that, means he'll eat away $5 million worth of cap space. And the knee problems he's had pretty much has been sapping away the athleticism he came into the league with so whatever excitement that may have offered is far in between at this point. Unless the Wolves are including incentives I see no reason/need to trade for him. No I would not trade Jr Smith for him (there's a better chance Smith opts out than Budinger ). They would be better off just giving Early a shot or play Smith or Hardaway at SF behind Anthony. Or wait until reams start waiving guys and pick up one of them for a buck and change. Reggie Williams just got cut and his career percentage from 3 is better and he can be had for pocket change. Budingers former Wolves teammate Dante Cunningham, who Imogen is a better overall player, is available and could be had for cheap as well. Both guys are only 27.
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#187 » by BBALLER4FR » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:58 pm

Sixers really look awful. They gotta be thinking Amare. They just gotta right? Someone give me hope here.
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#188 » by moocow007 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:00 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:Sixers really look awful. They gotta be thinking Amare. They just gotta right? Someone give me hope here.

Stoudemire is probably too healthy for the Sixers ... so sorry. :)
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#189 » by Yodi2007 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:24 am

DowNY wrote:Anyone here willing to give Eric Gordon a shot?
He seemed to be coming back to form last season & has 2 yrs left (expires 2016). He might be the starting SG next to Calderon & Melo we need.
Judging by some vids of him from last season, he definitely is not in the Amar'e/Brandon Roy bracket.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFX5Cq_dEm4[/youtube]


No one wants that undersized, injury-prone, no defense, ball chucking guard! If you are going to trade for something else then go after someone else like maybe T.Ross from the raptors, K-Mart, anything other than Gordon and Josh Smith!
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#190 » by nykballa2k4 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:56 am

WE should trade Bargnani, Calderon, Outlaw and Dalembert for Lin, Nash and Jordan Hill. There will be point guards available for FA but finding good big men can be more difficult. Lin would fit the bill for the triangle as well as Calderon and we can choose to keep him or toss him at the end of the year. Lakers might want stability at the other guard spot and might want to gain this depth considering Kobe is on a limited clock.
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#191 » by berkkobe7 » Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:45 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:WE should trade Bargnani, Calderon, Outlaw and Dalembert for Lin, Nash and Jordan Hill. There will be point guards available for FA but finding good big men can be more difficult. Lin would fit the bill for the triangle as well as Calderon and we can choose to keep him or toss him at the end of the year. Lakers might want stability at the other guard spot and might want to gain this depth considering Kobe is on a limited clock.


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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#192 » by suicidedeuce » Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:13 pm

BBALLER4FR wrote:Sixers really look awful. They gotta be thinking Amare. They just gotta right? Someone give me hope here.


So you think the Sixers want to compromise their lottery chances?

The 76ers plan for this year IS to get the #1 pick next year.
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#193 » by Meat » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:17 pm

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BBALLER4FR wrote:Sixers really look awful. They gotta be thinking Amare. They just gotta right? Someone give me hope here.


So you think the Sixers want to compromise their lottery chances?

The 76ers plan for this year IS to get the #1 pick next year.


arent they going to re-work the lottery? to dissuade tanking?
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#194 » by moocow007 » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:21 pm

Meat wrote:
suicidedeuce wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:Sixers really look awful. They gotta be thinking Amare. They just gotta right? Someone give me hope here.


So you think the Sixers want to compromise their lottery chances?

The 76ers plan for this year IS to get the #1 pick next year.


arent they going to re-work the lottery? to dissuade tanking?


They should just give everyone in the lottery an equal chance at the top 3 picks. That will dissuade tanking right quick.
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#195 » by Meat » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:42 pm

moocow007 wrote:
Meat wrote:
suicidedeuce wrote:
So you think the Sixers want to compromise their lottery chances?

The 76ers plan for this year IS to get the #1 pick next year.


arent they going to re-work the lottery? to dissuade tanking?


They should just give everyone in the lottery an equal chance at the top 3 picks. That will dissuade tanking right quick.

silver and co cant be too keen on empty seats on the eve of a new media deal, im 100% sure it gets addressed before the season is over
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#196 » by bballoctober » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:41 pm

Meat wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Meat wrote:
arent they going to re-work the lottery? to dissuade tanking?


They should just give everyone in the lottery an equal chance at the top 3 picks. That will dissuade tanking right quick.

silver and co cant be too keen on empty seats on the eve of a new media deal, im 100% sure it gets addressed before the season is over

They are going to vote for a new system that is going to give everyone a chance but not equal odds. The 4 worst teams get 13% and top 3 teams get 0.5%.
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#197 » by Bklyn&company » Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:10 am

Will Bynum(if he is waived) anyone? Will definitely play in front of Larkin and Pablo if we can get him.
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#198 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:28 am

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siar617 wrote:Now that Meeks is down Detroit should be becoming ripe for a robbery. Give em Hardaway Larkin Outlaw for Monroe and Dinwiddie :nod: :nod:


I believe it's a stress fracture in his back which typically isn't that bad, 6-8 weeks.


Honestly, if there is a deal to be had, we should be listening. However, Monroe is not going to be a bargain. Even if he can produce 20/8 in starters minutes, the problem will be defense. He isn't bad on defense, but he is not an advantage there either. Having him at center means we need a rim protector at PF meaning we are greatly limiting our flexibility because there is not a surfeit of talent at PF that has range, defends well and shot blocks. Basically we would be hoping to get Taj Gibson or Ibaka. I don't think I would like our odds of prying those guys from their respective clubs. Therefore, we would be better served to be patient to land the 'right' piece rather than hodge-podging our way to a better team on paper.

That said, if we can move JR in the process, I am completely for it.
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#199 » by moocow007 » Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:49 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:
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siar617 wrote:Now that Meeks is down Detroit should be becoming ripe for a robbery. Give em Hardaway Larkin Outlaw for Monroe and Dinwiddie :nod: :nod:


I believe it's a stress fracture in his back which typically isn't that bad, 6-8 weeks.


Honestly, if there is a deal to be had, we should be listening. However, Monroe is not going to be a bargain. Even if he can produce 20/8 in starters minutes, the problem will be defense. He isn't bad on defense, but he is not an advantage there either. Having him at center means we need a rim protector at PF meaning we are greatly limiting our flexibility because there is not a surfeit of talent at PF that has range, defends well and shot blocks. Basically we would be hoping to get Taj Gibson or Ibaka. I don't think I would like our odds of prying those guys from their respective clubs. Therefore, we would be better served to be patient to land the 'right' piece rather than hodge-podging our way to a better team on paper.

That said, if we can move JR in the process, I am completely for it.


Monroe is bad on defense.
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Re: Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#200 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:52 am

moocow007 wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
Boarder Patrol wrote:
I believe it's a stress fracture in his back which typically isn't that bad, 6-8 weeks.


Honestly, if there is a deal to be had, we should be listening. However, Monroe is not going to be a bargain. Even if he can produce 20/8 in starters minutes, the problem will be defense. He isn't bad on defense, but he is not an advantage there either. Having him at center means we need a rim protector at PF meaning we are greatly limiting our flexibility because there is not a surfeit of talent at PF that has range, defends well and shot blocks. Basically we would be hoping to get Taj Gibson or Ibaka. I don't think I would like our odds of prying those guys from their respective clubs. Therefore, we would be better served to be patient to land the 'right' piece rather than hodge-podging our way to a better team on paper.

That said, if we can move JR in the process, I am completely for it.


Monroe is bad on defense.


eh.. I watched him moreso his rookie year. He was not bad man to man. He had good anticipation skills and was able to get a high amount of steals for a center. He is not a shot blocker, but he isn't a liability. Centers don't go off against him. At power forward? yeah he is probably terrible. As a center (as a rookie) he was just fine.
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