Team's potential vs the East

[RHODEY]

what do you disagree with, please i'd like to know

kristaps last year was all defense and inconsistent on offense and melo had a subpar shooting season.

pau gasol still has plenty in the tank and jimmy butler is a legitimate 2 way player.

Kp's "inconsistent " offense out ranked Pau's horrendous defense. Ask any Bulls fan...Melo is no worse than Butler, Olympic Dad Melo is significantly better . This season we will more than likely see the superior version.

why is that?

because rose didn't have 3 knee injuries and is still a very good player?

because noah isn't made of glass?

Because Melo will be surrounded by more talent. Because we are are exponentially better from the PG position. Because our coaching has improved drastically. Because KP will continue to improve. Because our bench has an unusual amount of sleeper talent ...Because it is TIME!

[Fat]

Not a fan of not having a legit backup center, i guess if noah were to go down the knicks move porzingis to center and melo to power forward?

[trophywinner]

not even trying






we in this

[el13adnino]

rose should hang on to the rim then come down easy to put less stress on those knees

[Rotten Apple]

Who's stopping this in the open court?

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[blueNorange]

no i said rolo, kristaps, 17 lotto pick, and tons of free cap space is a dynasty.

that plan is way better than kristaps, aging melo, injury prone noah, and some cap space.

Preach

Not if nobody signs because Rolo, Kristaps, and another random 20 yr old can't win games

knicks are probably not gonna win any games either with rose ball hogging and bricking shots, noah is in a suit because he's hurt, and brandon ennings is shooting fadeaway jumpshots despite being wide open.

[GONYK]

Preach

Not if nobody signs because Rolo, Kristaps, and another random 20 yr old can't win games

knicks are probably not gonna win any games either with rose ball hogging and bricking shots, noah is in a suit because he's hurt, and brandon ennings is shooting fadeaway jumpshots despite being wide open.

We won 32 games with a worse team. I think we'll be fine for the regular season, if we can stay reasonably healthy.

Rose's role will have to be different here than it was in Chicago. I can't see any way that it doesn't. He's not effective at that usage rate anymore.

Jennings is fine off the bench.

[blueNorange]

Kp's "inconsistent " offense out ranked Pau's horrendous defense. Ask any Bulls fan...Melo is no worse than Butler, Olympic Dad Melo is significantly better . This season we will more than likely see the superior version.

why is that?

because rose didn't have 3 knee injuries and is still a very good player?

because noah isn't made of glass?

Because Melo will be surrounded by more talent. Because we are are exponentially better from the PG position. Because our coaching has improved drastically. Because KP will continue to improve. Because our bench has an unusual amount of sleeper talent ...Because it is TIME!

WHAT TALENT?

brandon ennings is a bum
derrick rose isn't even half the player he once was
joakim noah is a great vocal leader but you can't lead when you miss more games than played, and guess what noah will be hurt at some point this year because he's injury prone

there's only 1 talent melo has and his name is kristaps porzingis. i mean you guys are so dead set on a winning season it's maddening, this team didn't improve all the much.

[blueNorange]

Not if nobody signs because Rolo, Kristaps, and another random 20 yr old can't win games

knicks are probably not gonna win any games either with rose ball hogging and bricking shots, noah is in a suit because he's hurt, and brandon ennings is shooting fadeaway jumpshots despite being wide open.

We won 32 games with a worse team. I think we'll be fine for the regular season, if we can stay reasonably healthy.

Rose's role will have to be different here than it was in Chicago. I can't see any way that it doesn't. He's not effective at that usage rate anymore.

Jennings is fine off the bench.

LOL, okay man whatever you say.

[blueNorange]

fact is this is just gonna be a wasted year for kristaps, this offseason has been a failure simply because all the moves were mde for melo and not the actually franchise player.

[GONYK]

fact is this is just gonna be a wasted year for kristaps, this offseason has been a failure simply because all the moves were mde for melo and not the actually franchise player.

The guy who wants to strip away KP's entire support system is talking about how playing on a team with playoff tested vets would adversely affect his development?

That's fun

[blueNorange]

fact is this is just gonna be a wasted year for kristaps, this offseason has been a failure simply because all the moves were mde for melo and not the actually franchise player.

The guy who wants to strip away KP's entire support system is talking about how playing on a team with playoff tested vets would adversely affect his development?

That's fun

those playoff tested vets are injury prone.

that's not fun.

[GONYK]

fact is this is just gonna be a wasted year for kristaps, this offseason has been a failure simply because all the moves were mde for melo and not the actually franchise player.

The guy who wants to strip away KP's entire support system is talking about how playing on a team with playoff tested vets would adversely affect his development?

That's fun

those playoff tested vets are injury prone.

that's not fun.

If it all goes belly up, we'll have a poor season, a high draft pick, and Rose and Jennings will be gone. Meanwhile, KP will still benefit from learning from those players, developing habits, and hopefully winning some games.

Don't see the downside here.

[blueNorange]

The guy who wants to strip away KP's entire support system is talking about how playing on a team with playoff tested vets would adversely affect his development?

That's fun

those playoff tested vets are injury prone.

that's not fun.

If it all goes belly up, we'll have a poor season, a high draft pick, and Rose and Jennings will be gone. Meanwhile, KP will still benefit from learning from those players, developing habits, and hopefully winning some games.

Don't see the downside here.

yeah, no.

the downside is this upcoming season is a wasted year, except the knicks won't receive a high draft pick out of it.

[GONYK]

those playoff tested vets are injury prone.

that's not fun.

If it all goes belly up, we'll have a poor season, a high draft pick, and Rose and Jennings will be gone. Meanwhile, KP will still benefit from learning from those players, developing habits, and hopefully winning some games.

Don't see the downside here.

yeah, no.

the downside is this upcoming season is a wasted year, except the knicks won't receive a high draft pick out of it.

If key players get injured, we will have a lotto pick.

If they stay healthy, we're a playoff team.

Seems like a win/win

[Rotten Apple]

those playoff tested vets are injury prone.

that's not fun.

If it all goes belly up, we'll have a poor season, a high draft pick, and Rose and Jennings will be gone. Meanwhile, KP will still benefit from learning from those players, developing habits, and hopefully winning some games.

Don't see the downside here.

yeah, no.

the downside is this upcoming season is a wasted year, except the knicks won't receive a high draft pick out of it.

A high draft pick doesn't mean much to be honest. Kawhi Leonard was picked 15th, Jimmy Butler 30th, Derrick Williams 2nd all in the 2011 draft. 1 is a champion, 1 is in Rio and the other is on his 4th team in 5 years.

[RHODEY]

WHAT TALENT?

brandon ennings is a bum.

Not many teams have borderline starting PG's coming off their bench.

derrick rose isn't even half the player he once was

He's about 85 perent the player he once was and he continues to improve. He'll still be an ALLstar level PG if we win ~50 or so games - and I believe we will. He and Jennings combined represent an exponential increase in PG talent over Calderone and Grant.

joakim noah is a great vocal leader but you can't lead when you miss more games than played, and guess what noah will be hurt at some point this year because he's injury prone

Maybe...but when healthy he is perfect for this system. I'm betting that he will comeback stronger than ever because of the NYC mojo homecoming factor.

there's only 1 talent melo has and his name is kristaps porzingis. i mean you guys are so dead set on a winning season it's maddening, this team didn't improve all the much.

MELO, KP, Derick Rose, Noah, even Lee. That starting 5 is easily in the argument for #2 behind Cleveland, and I think even Cleveland could be #2 if KP somehow explodes into Allstar status and everything falls right.

The bench is going to be the real surprise. We are loaded there with hungry young talent- are you watching the Olympics my friend? Hell even our 3rd PG is Dangerous.... Mark my words and save this post, because I WILL refer to it when you are eating crow.

[CJackson]

Rhodey just put the Blue Man on Crow Watch

[blueNorange]

If it all goes belly up, we'll have a poor season, a high draft pick, and Rose and Jennings will be gone. Meanwhile, KP will still benefit from learning from those players, developing habits, and hopefully winning some games.

Don't see the downside here.

yeah, no.

the downside is this upcoming season is a wasted year, except the knicks won't receive a high draft pick out of it.

If key players get injured, we will have a lotto pick.

If they stay healthy, we're a playoff team.

Seems like a win/win

that's the problem, if they're healthy they're a playoff team. except a low seed just hovering over .500 playoff team. a lot of people here consider that a success and that's pathetic. that's a losers mentality. a lot of people here accept 'just good enough' and that's winning any titles.

[GONYK]

yeah, no.

the downside is this upcoming season is a wasted year, except the knicks won't receive a high draft pick out of it.

If key players get injured, we will have a lotto pick.

If they stay healthy, we're a playoff team.

Seems like a win/win

that's the problem, if they're healthy they're a playoff team. except a low seed just hovering over .500 playoff team. a lot of people here consider that a success and that's pathetic. that's a losers mentality. a lot of people here accept 'just good enough' and that's winning any titles.

Making the playoffs is more of a loser's mentality than actually losing on purpose so you can have a shot at a 19 year old who might maybe become a good player?

I don't think marquee free agents (which is what started this whole conversation) would agree with that.