Knicks vs. Hawks PG Thread: Solid Goddamn Win

god shammgod · Post #181 » by **god shammgod** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:51 pm

Greenie wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Greenie wrote:They can both start. KP is a center anyway

they took away center from the all-star game anyway.

So you have 3 forwards

Posse
Melo
KP

Name me some more starter type guys in the east with NY type voting backing them.

paul george got more votes than melo last year. he'll probably be a starter again.

also, jimmy butler can go in as a forward now too.

Dantares · Post #182 » by **Dantares** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:51 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Much better rebounder though. I can comfortably say that even though Marc is more like ROLO in that he clears for boards. I'll fall back on the defensive criticism. He's showing potential.

I thought Marc would be a good rebounder when he first started, he certainly has the positioning to secure them. But yes Billy does have some more toughness down in the paint that I wasn't expecting. Just makes it easier to slide Noah into that Bogut role. Get your starts, set the tone, then let the ballers ball.

I like Willie; I think he's going to be starter material by the end of the year. He's already in the rotation and eating into Noah's and KOQ's minutes, though KOQ is still playing well. It's a testament to how well Willie is playing and his overall offensive skill and quickly developing defense.

Just to play devils advocate. There seems to be a narrative here (especially after losses) that KP is really a 5. Well, Willie is also most clearly a 5. There is no PF in Willie at all, really, while KP has some. Can they really start together, defensively, with tiny stretch 4's running around all game long (who KP would be guarding). I think they have the passing and feel for the game, plus KP with the outside touch, to play on offense, no question. It's D that the board seems concerned with, at least after loses.

I'm not sure the opposing 4's speed advantage against KP will be greater than our size advantage on the frontline with KP and Willy. and its not just size, both of these guys are skilled offensively.

I can see KP splitting his minutes at the 4 and 5 the rest of his career like Duncan did. Maybe 20 minutes at PF and 15 minutes at C when willy is resting.

Greenie · Post #183 » by **Greenie** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:52 pm

Drummond
Howard
Whiteside
Love

We are guard heavy in the east

NYKHardKnock · Post #184 » by **NYKHardKnock** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:53 pm

MartinsLusis wrote:
Kristaps6_NYK wrote:Noah, Willy, Melo, KP, KOQ, Justin, Lee all played very solid

Yeah, Noah was especially solid today.

his absence was quite beneficial, played a positive role in the victory today!

Greenie · Post #185 » by **Greenie** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:55 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Greenie wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
they took away center from the all-star game anyway.

So you have 3 forwards

Posse
Melo
KP

Name me some more starter type guys in the east with NY type voting backing them.

paul george got more votes than melo last year. he'll probably be a starter again.

Not if Melo keeps playing the way he's playing and the Knicks keep winning.

Plus, you and I are not voting for PG when ALL our votes are going to Melo and KP right Shamm?

NYKHardKnock · Post #186 » by **NYKHardKnock** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:55 pm

drp07644 wrote:
Kristaps6_NYK wrote:Noah, Willy, Melo, KP, KOQ, Justin, Lee all played very solid

Noah had the best game of his Knick career by far.

i tend to agree

thebuzzardman · Post #187 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:55 pm

Greenie wrote:
AmazingJason wrote:
King of Canada wrote:KP is now averaging OVER 20ppg.

Melo and KP make the Knicks one of only a few teams with two 20+ ppg scorers (Cavs have 3).

Mark my words.

KP will be starting in the ASG and it will be well-deserved.

Hopefully, Melo takes it okay

They can both start. KP is a center anyway

Willie isn't a PF though.

Right now, according to the board, the Knicks are best with Melo at the 4, KP at the 5, someone (Holiday) at the 3.

Knicks can't start Willie this year, if you believe that is the best lineup.

edit:

WillieB has a lot of offensive awareness and would be a very good C to play next to KP, IF you think two bigs can play in todays NBA. Also, would be a nice look post Melo.

Not sure KP/Willie/Melo is effective for the NBA right now, though I wish it was. I like them all.

AmazingJason · Post #188 » by **AmazingJason** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:57 pm

Greenie wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Greenie wrote:
So you have 3 forwards

Posse
Melo
KP

Name me some more starter type guys in the east with NY type voting backing them.

paul george got more votes than melo last year. he'll probably be a starter again.

Not if Melo keeps playing the way he's playing and the Knicks keep winning.

Plus, you and I are not voting for PG when ALL our votes are going to Melo and KP right Shamm?

Some of these players and teams out there...they go all out doing lame, gimmicky sh*t to get votes...

To my knowledge, we don't do that, and I doubt Phil cares about that.

god shammgod · Post #189 » by **god shammgod** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:58 pm

i never vote ever. i hate the all-star game. worst game i watch every year.

Greenie · Post #190 » by **Greenie** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:59 pm

When do I get a Rose dunk?

Greenie · Post #191 » by **Greenie** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:00 pm

god shammgod wrote:i never vote ever. i hate the all-star game. worst game i watch every year.

You gonna vote this year.

god shammgod · Post #192 » by **god shammgod** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:00 pm

Greenie wrote:When do I get a Rose dunk?

there was one against the wiz

Greenie · Post #193 » by **Greenie** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:01 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Greenie wrote:
AmazingJason wrote:
Mark my words.

KP will be starting in the ASG and it will be well-deserved.

Hopefully, Melo takes it okay

They can both start. KP is a center anyway

Willie isn't a PF though.

Right now, according to the board, the Knicks are best with Melo at the 4, KP at the 5, someone (Holiday) at the 3.

Knicks can't start Willie this year, if you believe that is the best lineup.

edit:

WillieB has a lot of offensive awareness and would be a very good C to play next to KP, IF you think two bigs can play in todays NBA. Also, would be a nice look post Melo.

Not sure KP/Willie/Melo is effective for the NBA right now, though I wish it was. I like them all.

Buzz wtf are you talking about? I'm on the all star game

Greenie · Post #194 » by **Greenie** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:02 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Greenie wrote:When do I get a Rose dunk?

there was one against the wiz

Missed that game
Show me

Post #195 » by **dakomish23** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:02 pm

RHODEY wrote:I wonder if Noah as been eating KP's rebounds? Or is it a coincidence that he racks up 11 in his absence.

JVG says no matter what every team is going to get 90 PTS and 45 REBS.

Somebody is going to grab them

El Poochio · Post #196 » by **El Poochio** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:02 pm

god shammgod wrote:i never vote ever. i hate the all-star game. worst game i watch every year.

Its about the accolade, who cares about the game

Sark · Post #197 » by **Sark** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:02 pm

I don't know if he'll get voted in, but Giannis will make the All Star game.

Greenie · Post #198 » by **Greenie** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:03 pm

I see imma have to regulate Shamm about his voting habits.

god shammgod · Post #199 » by **god shammgod** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:03 pm

El Poochio wrote:
god shammgod wrote:i never vote ever. i hate the all-star game. worst game i watch every year.

Its about the accolade, who cares about the game

if i have to suffer and watch it, nobody gets my vote. i'm very petty.

god shammgod · Post #200 » by **god shammgod** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:05 pm

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