Star Wars Episode VIII - SPOILERS

[Hemispheres]

So was this movie at least more original and creative than The Force Awakens? I really didn't like how that one was basically A New Hope 2.0.

[SmoothLefty21]

Kylo Ren = The perfect villain for this generation. Internet trolls/millenials who think they’re bad asses and defiant but are whiners.

He's Anakin, just flipped the side of The Force he's on when we're introduced to him and the side he's conflicted about.

Anakin = Light but fighting off Dark
Kylo = Dark but fighting off Light

Both are whiny, immature kids with anger issues.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Also, gimme the "Legends" books over episode 7/8 ANY day of the week. Not even close.

[Oscirus]

So was this movie at least more original and creative than The Force Awakens? I really didn't like how that one was basically A New Hope 2.0.

The one thing that people who've seen it will likely agree upon is that for better or worst, it's fairly original. Yea it has some of the same plot points as return of the jedi and empire but for the most part, it's original.

[LakerLegend]

Spoiler-Free:

It's like the technology has gone backwards, just look at the whole opening sequence.

The first order is unbelievably comical and non-threatening compared to the empire.

Bad, often cheesy dialogue, that has to explain things out to the audience in the most obvious terms.

The overarching story really makes no progress.

The "side mission" is so out of place, and the place itself is ridiculous and doesn't fit into the sw universe.

The whole concept of the rebels predicament in the middle of the film is so contrived.

Mark Hamill was terrific, and everything involving him was pretty good, but the rest...eh.

[LakerLegend]

Also the humor they use is mostly so out of place, it's what you expect to see in a comic book/superhero movie.

How is this supposed to be a galactic scale conflict when the first order has a handful of star destroyers and the rebels 1 cruiser.

Vader was so much more twisted and evil than Kylo yet Luke is like "nope no chance of redemption".

[Sark]

I guess they decided to steal Space Balls thunder. They should call this one Star Balls.

[Sark]

Spoiler:

Also the way Snoke died was dumb. He looked like he was at least as powerful as Palpatine, or maybe even more. But he gets killed so easy.

[JoJo21]

So is the movie worth watching?

[Dr. Detfink]

Depends. This is definitely NOT the the most fun, action packed Star Wars film.

This was a meditation on the following:
1. The folly of heroism.
2. Running commentary on toxic masculinity
3. Hubris of men.

Through the lense of three female counterparts: Rey, Rose, and Vice Admiral Holdo.

I've said before and I'll say it again, I LOVED the tribute to Rashomon and Ran by Akira Kurosawa.

It is NOT for everyone. IF you're looking for nostalgia fix, it sh#ts all over that. This is the passing of the baton.

[Meat]

Depends. This is definitely NOT the the most fun, action packed Star Wars film.

This was a meditation on the following:
1. The folly of heroism.
2. Running commentary on toxic masculinity
3. Hubris of men.

Through the lense of three female counterparts: Rey, Rose, and Vice Admiral Holdo.

I've said before and I'll say it again, I LOVED the tribute to Rashomon and Ran by Akira Kurosawa.

It is NOT for everyone. IF you're looking for nostalgia fix, it sh#ts all over that. This is the passing of the baton.

absolutely, Im so pumped im not the only one that noticed this.

I wish they would give one or 3 of mifune's kids do a cameo or notable background role

[Marty McFly]

Depends. This is definitely NOT the the most fun, action packed Star Wars film.

This was a meditation on the following:
1. The folly of heroism.
2. Running commentary on toxic masculinity
3. Hubris of men.

Through the lense of three female counterparts: Rey, Rose, and Vice Admiral Holdo.

I've said before and I'll say it again, I LOVED the tribute to Rashomon and Ran by Akira Kurosawa.

It is NOT for everyone. IF you're looking for nostalgia fix, it sh#ts all over that. This is the passing of the baton.

absolutely, Im so pumped im not the only one that noticed this.

I wish they would give one or 3 of mifune's kids do a cameo or notable background role

rumor has it, mifune turned down the role of kenobi. how cool would that have been?

[shtolky]

Spoiler:

Also the way Snoke died was dumb. He looked like he was at least as powerful as Palpatine, or maybe even more. But he gets killed so easy.

Spoiler:

You're looking at that on a surface level only. Yes, he's insanely powerful, but he's also insanely arrogant and overconfident. Hubris was his downfall. He failed, just like seemingly everyone else in the movie. He was able to read Kylo's every thought and intent but he didn't realize that Kylo's "true enemy" was Snoke himself, not Rey. He was so full of himself during his self-congratulatory rant about knowing Kylo's every thought that he couldn't even sense Luke's lightsaber turning to face him. Kylo Ren has always been the main antagonist in this trilogy, Snoke was just a plot point to advance Kylo's character.

[IllmaticHandler]

Was ok. I feel like a void is where my heart should be lol. Some parts were good, and others...no.

Ill, when are you seeing it??

Tonight Hopefully. My Significant other got really sick over the weekend, and she would be butt hurt if I saw it without her. So if shes up to it, tonight.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Was ok. I feel like a void is where my heart should be lol. Some parts were good, and others...no.

Ill, when are you seeing it??

Tonight Hopefully. My Significant other got really sick over the weekend, and she would be butt hurt if I saw it without her. So if shes up to it, tonight.

Gotcha. Hopefully she gets better then and you can see it. I'm curious to hear your thoughts.

[don't panac]

Spoiler:

Also the way Snoke died was dumb. He looked like he was at least as powerful as Palpatine, or maybe even more. But he gets killed so easy.

Spoiler:

You're looking at that on a surface level only. Yes, he's insanely powerful, but he's also insanely arrogant and overconfident. Hubris was his downfall. He failed, just like seemingly everyone else in the movie. He was able to read Kylo's every thought and intent but he didn't realize that Kylo's "true enemy" was Snoke himself, not Rey. He was so full of himself during his self-congratulatory rant about knowing Kylo's every thought that he couldn't even sense Luke's lightsaber turning to face him. Kylo Ren has always been the main antagonist in this trilogy, Snoke was just a plot point to advance Kylo's character.

very well put.

i had written a longish commentary on what i liked - a lot- and what i didn't -a few things- with spoiler tags and all, but it got erased on posting and now i don't have time to re-compose everything again.

i will just re-write this:
for all the people who reference the low Rotten Tomatoes score, that is due to all the butt-hurt pseudo-fans who gave the movie 0.5-1 star.
I can see giving it 2.5-3 stars if you didn't like it, however anything lower than 2 is given not with the quality/experience/entertaining value of the movie in mind, but with the sole purpose to lower the score. pure hater move. pathetic.

[Oscirus]

Spoiler:

Also the way Snoke died was dumb. He looked like he was at least as powerful as Palpatine, or maybe even more. But he gets killed so easy.

Spoiler:

You're looking at that on a surface level only. Yes, he's insanely powerful, but he's also insanely arrogant and overconfident. Hubris was his downfall. He failed, just like seemingly everyone else in the movie. He was able to read Kylo's every thought and intent but he didn't realize that Kylo's "true enemy" was Snoke himself, not Rey. He was so full of himself during his self-congratulatory rant about knowing Kylo's every thought that he couldn't even sense Luke's lightsaber turning to face him. Kylo Ren has always been the main antagonist in this trilogy, Snoke was just a plot point to advance Kylo's character.

very well put.

i had written a longish commentary on what i liked - a lot- and what i didn't -a few things- with spoiler tags and all, but it got erased on posting and now i don't have time to re-compose everything again.

i will just re-write this:
for all the people who reference the low Rotten Tomatoes score, that is due to all the butt-hurt pseudo-fans who gave the movie 0.5-1 star.
I can see giving it 2.5-3 stars if you didn't like it, however anything lower than 2 is given not with the quality/experience/entertaining value of the movie in mind, but with the sole purpose to lower the score. pure hater move. pathetic.

Or maybe people didn't like it because it didn't meet expectations. Their opinion is no more wrong or pathetic than yours is and it's absolutely obnoxious for anybody to get on someone else for not liking it just like it would be obnoxious for anybody getting on somebody for liking it.

This is the ghostbusters all over again where people who don't like the movie apparently have an ulterior motive.

[shtolky]

Spoiler:

You're looking at that on a surface level only. Yes, he's insanely powerful, but he's also insanely arrogant and overconfident. Hubris was his downfall. He failed, just like seemingly everyone else in the movie. He was able to read Kylo's every thought and intent but he didn't realize that Kylo's "true enemy" was Snoke himself, not Rey. He was so full of himself during his self-congratulatory rant about knowing Kylo's every thought that he couldn't even sense Luke's lightsaber turning to face him. Kylo Ren has always been the main antagonist in this trilogy, Snoke was just a plot point to advance Kylo's character.

very well put.

i had written a longish commentary on what i liked - a lot- and what i didn't -a few things- with spoiler tags and all, but it got erased on posting and now i don't have time to re-compose everything again.

i will just re-write this:
for all the people who reference the low Rotten Tomatoes score, that is due to all the butt-hurt pseudo-fans who gave the movie 0.5-1 star.
I can see giving it 2.5-3 stars if you didn't like it, however anything lower than 2 is given not with the quality/experience/entertaining value of the movie in mind, but with the sole purpose to lower the score. pure hater move. pathetic.

Or maybe people didn't like it because it didn't meet expectations. Their opinion is no more wrong or pathetic than yours is and it's absolutely obnoxious for anybody to get on someone else for not liking it just like it would be obnoxious for anybody getting on somebody for liking it.

This is the ghostbusters all over again where people who don't like the movie apparently have an ulterior motive.

I don't think he's saying that (though I don't want to speak for anyone else). I think objectively, saying this is the worst SW movie or that the prequels were better is pretty silly (many of these 1 star reviews say these things). Again, everyone is entitled to their opinion but I find it pretty crazy that someone could find that the prequels for example are better movies than TLJ. It's almost like watching an amateur filmmaker vs. a professional one. Again, just my opinion.

[don't panac]

Spoiler:

You're looking at that on a surface level only. Yes, he's insanely powerful, but he's also insanely arrogant and overconfident. Hubris was his downfall. He failed, just like seemingly everyone else in the movie. He was able to read Kylo's every thought and intent but he didn't realize that Kylo's "true enemy" was Snoke himself, not Rey. He was so full of himself during his self-congratulatory rant about knowing Kylo's every thought that he couldn't even sense Luke's lightsaber turning to face him. Kylo Ren has always been the main antagonist in this trilogy, Snoke was just a plot point to advance Kylo's character.

very well put.

i had written a longish commentary on what i liked - a lot- and what i didn't -a few things- with spoiler tags and all, but it got erased on posting and now i don't have time to re-compose everything again.

i will just re-write this:
for all the people who reference the low Rotten Tomatoes score, that is due to all the butt-hurt pseudo-fans who gave the movie 0.5-1 star.
I can see giving it 2.5-3 stars if you didn't like it, however anything lower than 2 is given not with the quality/experience/entertaining value of the movie in mind, but with the sole purpose to lower the score. pure hater move. pathetic.

Or maybe people didn't like it because it didn't meet expectations. Their opinion is no more wrong or pathetic than yours is and it's absolutely obnoxious for anybody to get on someone else for not liking it just like it would be obnoxious for anybody getting on somebody for liking it.

This is the ghostbusters all over again where people who don't like the movie apparently have an ulterior motive.

it is fine not to like it and give it a negative review.

but there is no way on earth (or in far far a way galaxy) this movie is worth 1/2 a star.
one thing is 'not to meet expectations", another is judge it as one of the worst movies in the history of cinema, which quite patently clearly it is not.
if you read the comments, many are not even that negative, but they still give a 1/2 star. Some go even as far as declaring that it is 'to lower the score'. and yes, that is a pathetic and dishonest move.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Out of 10, I’d probably give it a 6...MAYBE 7 absolute MAX, but that’s unlikely. I’m a huge SW fan (read an absurd amount of the now “legends” books and many of the new ones), I just felt disappointed. Best way I can put it is that I felt a void after the movie.