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Tron Carter wrote:god shammgod wrote:listening to rusillo on mike and mike, he's repeating that booker and 4 will get it done. seems to think we would take fox at 4.
rightfully ripping the deal too
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
dakomish23 wrote:Billy Goat wrote:dakomish23 wrote:
If KP gets dealt I think he's gone
the only way Melo is gone is by buyout/release.
Oh I didn't know you had insider info.
Nobody knows wth is going to happen. You assume the worst because of your disdain for the player.
NoLayupRule wrote:agreed on all countsKnicksFan7 wrote:I work in the front office of a professional sports team, specifically communications. You can't miss an exit meeting. Not only is it the time that front offices discuss the future of the player and review the year, but it's also a time for the player to air out their grievances. It would also be considered a mandatory team-related activity.
KP should have gone to the interview.
BUT...
Phil needs to handle his personnel better. His biggest problem is that he throws players under the bus in the media. This should have been handled behind closed doors, and the appropriate response would be, "This was a minor issue that we have worked out. In the end, we have one common goal and that is to bring a championship to NY."
But Phil's ego won't let him do that.
But phils interview yesterday didn't give me the sense that we were active in looking for Kp trades
Just that his ego was hurt and we were accepting calls
JXL wrote:JustinCredible wrote:What would Knicks fans think of:
Jabari Parker, Thon Maker, two 1st round picks, Greg Monroe
For
KP and Noah
- Parker with 2 ACL tears in 3 years
- Maker, while good, is very raw
- your picks aren't valuable enough
- Monroe is meh
Ayatollah wrote:Read that Rosen article and I started getting angry because this is complete bs. KP´s attitude is a problem? What should´ve been the content of that "exit interview" anyway?!?! Jackson has a big ego problem and only wants to flex his muscles...
Red Vines wrote:Phil is the old school "Well, I'll just take my business elsewhere!" guy when he encounters any resistance.
Capn'O wrote:I wonder what Paul Reed's feelings are about metal bats.
omerome wrote:What concerns me more is who we hire if we decide to move on from Phil either by a firing or him resigning than if KP gets traded. Our history of GMs doesn't have me filled with a lot confidence that the next person will be better.
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
levendis wrote:Knickstape1214 wrote:levendis wrote:
We would be in a better spot because of a player he drafted though. He gets credit for KP and whatever package he gets for him. People wanted Mudiay or Winslow so it was far from a slam dunk to draft him. He drafted KP, Willy, kept the picks, so he gets credit for that, period.
Yes it is, but that issue goes away once his contract expires, so it's not a franchise crippling problem. Besides there weren't many players coming anyway. If it means missing out on guys like Greg Monroe who cares
He gets no credit for keeping picks, because that's what GMs are supposed to do. KP was a guaranteed top 5 pick anyway, so no credit there. Willy he gets credit for.
I'm not talking about Monroe, I'm talking about the multiple reports saying that nobody wants to come to NY because of Phil.
Anyways, you and I don't see eye to eye on this (and that's ok). Agree to disagree, dude.
Yeah nothing wrong with a civil discussion without any personal attacks. I guess we'll see. Hopefully it works out. We as fans deserve that.
dakomish23 wrote:Billy Goat wrote:dakomish23 wrote:
If KP gets dealt I think he's gone
the only way Melo is gone is by buyout/release.
Oh I didn't know you had insider info.
Nobody knows wth is going to happen. You assume the worst because of your disdain for the player.
Billy Goat wrote:dakomish23 wrote:Billy Goat wrote:
the only way Melo is gone is by buyout/release.
Oh I didn't know you had insider info.
Nobody knows wth is going to happen. You assume the worst because of your disdain for the player.
No one wants to play here, yet Carmelo doesnt want to leave. It can't be both.
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
NYKfan77 wrote:The is a difference between actively trying to trade a player, just taking calls and actually having trade negotiations. According to multiple reports we aren't just taking calls we are actively engaged in trade talks. Phil so he doesn't have to call anyone told the entire world exactly what we are looking for in trade talks so everyone already knows the demands.
dakomish23 wrote:Tron Carter wrote:god shammgod wrote:listening to rusillo on mike and mike, he's repeating that booker and 4 will get it done. seems to think we would take fox at 4.
rightfully ripping the deal too
There are a lot of people who will not be a fan of Booker after one season
NoLayupRule wrote:dakomish23 wrote:Billy Goat wrote:
the only way Melo is gone is by buyout/release.
Oh I didn't know you had insider info.
Nobody knows wth is going to happen. You assume the worst because of your disdain for the player.
I think Chauncey in clev has more to do with melo potentially leaving than anything
New gms always try to make their mark
Billions has to convince lbj to stay
Billions has love and respect for melo
I don't know that billions values love much
I think melo takes the trade to clev if we can find another suitor to add in
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
god shammgod wrote:Tron Carter wrote:god shammgod wrote:no matter what happens, nobody can deny that this is an absolute sh*t show. huh. wow. i start laughing when i think about what a mess this is.
when you really go back and analyze this past season i don't even think the isiah era reached this level of dysfunction
the whole trial thing was rough but it's neck and neck
knicks85 wrote:I'm sorry but Melos garbage play and refusal to acknowledge the writing on the wall contributed greatly to this situation.. He forced Jackson to use more direct language regarding him, and than proceeded put a battery in KPs back... eff Melo i want that fat no defense, non passing bum off this team, shame KP drank that Kool Aide...
