Melo traded to OKC Thread (Cont.) - Put Melo stuff in here thanks xoxo Cap

[NoLayupRule]

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[FKF]

This trade doesn’t have me celebrate. The end of the Melo era is just as painful as the era was itself.

I’m happy Melo is gone but I’m still hurt by the six years this franchise wasted showcasing this dick head’s jump shot. This trade feels like the end of a war. You’re happy the war is over, but overall still hurt by the war.

Now I can only wish this team will play together and overachieve like our team was doing prior to the Melo trade.

The Knicks did right not to rush into a deal with Houston. They played the wait game, and got Melo to drop the gun and release a longer list than the Rockets.

If only Melo accepted a trade in such places since June, we would have had more leverage to get more in return.
He wouldn’t allow Phil to trade him, and wouldn’t allow Mills to trade him elsewhere than Houston for 3 months.

Good riddance. I am sure Melo will save his energy for a 60 pt effort at MSG on Dec 16, but I am sure as well he will accept to share duties with Westbrook and George, like he did in Team USA. Something he never did in NY, except for one year where a HOF PG commanded the ball.

Melo was due to be a #2 option all his career, he is a #3 option now, so I have no doubt he will look good in OKC. Maybe even reach the WCF. He must be hurt himself to leave NY.

The Knicks treated him as a #1 option, that was their mistake, and I will give Melo one thing, that was the Knicks mistake, not his, and they will still pay that mistake next season.

Time to move on now, I am curious to watch what this young team can do. Porzingis was impressive at EuroBasket as the #1 option, people say we are due to tank.
But this could be a surprise of a season for us. To remove Melo is addition by substraction. We have a good rotation of bigs, if not great, and I expect Ntilikina to improve our backcourt defense.
The media will be tough as usual, but there will be no expectations this year, the departure of Melo should give this locker-room some fresh air to start over.

[Fat Kat]

Always loved McDermott. Dudes jumper is wet. He’s gonna light it up at the garden

He can get you 3, then give up 4 on the other end.

He is a shorter Kyle Korver, need somewhere to hide him on D

McDermott is shorter than Korver?

[pwrshft99]

Always loved McDermott. Dudes jumper is wet. He’s gonna light it up at the garden

He can get you 3, then give up 4 on the other end.

He is a shorter Kyle Korver, need somewhere to hide him on D

McDermott is shorter than Korver?

I'm just going off memory from Bulls days, didn't fact check. They had a very similar game tho

[MaseInYourFace]

Melo came in a stubborn way and left same way. Yet people thinking he was going to open up his trade list. He wasn't man. It's so easy to Monday morning quarterback.

[Traveyknicks23]

This trade doesn’t have me celebrate. The end of the Melo era is just as painful as the era was itself.

I’m happy Melo is gone but I’m still hurt by the six years this franchise wasted showcasing this dick head’s jump shot. This trade feels like the end of a war. You’re happy the war is over, but overall still hurt by the war.

Now I can only wish this team will play together and overachieve like our team was doing prior to the Melo trade.

The Knicks did right not to rush into a deal with Houston. They played the wait game, and got Melo to drop the gun and release a longer list than the Rockets.

If only Melo accepted a trade in such places since June, we would have had more leverage to get more in return.
He wouldn’t allow Phil to trade him, and wouldn’t allow Mills to trade him elsewhere than Houston for 3 months.

Good riddance. I am sure Melo will save his energy for a 60 pt effort at MSG on Dec 16, but I am sure as well he will accept to share duties with Westbrook and George, like he did in Team USA. Something he never did in NY, except for one year where a HOF PG commanded the ball.

Melo was due to be a #2 option all his career, he is a #3 option now, so I have no doubt he will look good in OKC. Maybe even reach the WCF. He must be hurt himself to leave NY.

The Knicks treated him as a #1 option, that was their mistake, and I will give Melo one thing, that was the Knicks mistake, not his, and they will still pay that mistake next season.

Time to move on now, I am curious to watch what this young team can do. Porzingis was impressive at EuroBasket as the #1 option, people say we are due to tank.
But this could be a surprise of a season for us. To remove Melo is addition by substraction. We have a good rotation of bigs, if not great, and I expect Ntilikina to improve our backcourt defense.
The media will be tough as usual, but there will be no expectations this year, the departure of Melo should give this locker-room some fresh air to start over.

A post full of nothing dude is gone and you still can't get the hate out your heart lol sht is sad man

[aq_ua]

16 years ago, we traded Ewing to the Sonics and now we trade Melo to the same franchise. Hopefully this move is what lifts the curse. At the very least it's a new fresh start and moves us from the under the cloud of frustrations. There were plenty of enjoyable moments with Melo, but I'm glad it's over now.

[MaseInYourFace]

Melo era was a failure unfortunately. Glad we are moving on.

[Knicksfan20]

16 years ago, we traded Ewing to the Sonics and now we trade Melo to the same franchise. Hopefully this move is what lifts the curse. At the very least it's a new fresh start and moves us from the under the cloud of frustrations. There were plenty of enjoyable moments with Melo, but I'm glad it's over now.

That happened right before camp also right?

[egelband]

Noway we're keeping this lineup. We are top heavy. One of the bigs has got to go.

Kp
Willy
Kanter
Noah
KOQ
Kornet

I think it's reasonable to assume another deal is coming. Maybe Willy along with Lee for a first rounder? Something like that. Knicks have too many bodies on their roster it seems.

[King of Canada]

Noway we're keeping this lineup. We are top heavy. One of the bigs has got to go.

Kp
Willy
Kanter
Noah
KOQ
Kornet

I think it's reasonable to assume another deal is coming. Maybe Willy along with Lee for a first rounder? Something like that. Knicks have too many bodies on their roster it seems.

Willy is at the top of the keep list. If we're rebuilding he's more valuable than a first.

[egelband]

Noway we're keeping this lineup. We are top heavy. One of the bigs has got to go.

Kp
Willy
Kanter
Noah
KOQ
Kornet

I think it's reasonable to assume another deal is coming. Maybe Willy along with Lee for a first rounder? Something like that. Knicks have too many bodies on their roster it seems.

Willy is at the top of the keep list. If we're rebuilding he's more valuable than a first.

I hope so. If not him then, maybe KOQ and Lee. Not sure what value that has but maybe that could fetch a late first rounder? Who knows. Trades these days are so tough to gauge. So many moving parts.

[mpharris36]

The Knicks should have just threatened to bench melo or only play him in garbage time to ruin his stats.

If they threatened to do this for the next two years he'd be forced to open up his trade list.

This trade is terrible, it doesn't help them rebuild at all

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[Fat Kat]

Melo came in a stubborn way and left same way. Yet people thinking he was going to open up his trade list. He wasn't man. It's so easy to Monday morning quarterback.

True. It also would've been virtually impossible to teach this young team to play the right way with Melo on the roster. There's an added value of not having a stubborn former star in camp.

[TankCommander17]

Melo came in a stubborn way and left same way. Yet people thinking he was going to open up his trade list. He wasn't man. It's so easy to Monday morning quarterback.

True. It also would've been virtually impossible to teach this young team to play the right way with Melo on the roster. There's an added value of not having a stubborn former star in camp.

We could not go into camp with a malcontent Melo this is true. It would just ruin the team environment. But he did open up his trade list. Not by a lot but to something where we didn't have to take a terrible contract.

[nyknicks2k2]

I think people, in speaking of this deal, forget two important aspects. 1, Melo had a NTC. Yes a team like Portland may have offered more but at the end of the day it's irrelevant. If Melo didn't want to go there, he wasn't going. Blame Phil for that one. As far as I know, Melo had a 3 team list. One team, we had months to deal with and didn't (Houston) so it really came down to two teams. OKC wasn't going to keep adding assets. No need to. 2, players this yr haven't fetched much in terms of value. Can't have high expectations when trying to move an older, already declining player with multiple flaws in his game already. Put all that together and you have this deal. Not great. Not bad. Just solid but necessary to move the franchise forward. We weren't getting a great hual. It is what it is.

[Reign23]

very impressed by the number of people who are talking bs over and over and over again. yeah you are absolutely right, melos era was a failure. he could not take vujacic, calderon or amares shot knees to winning seasons. what a bum.

[Reign23]

And here we are now as the next chapter of incompetence.

we are supposed to run and gun right? sure with 2 centers on the floor all the time and no one who can make plays.

we should play KP at center more often now, but I'm sure that he won't get any minutes at all at the 5.

in da smallball era we have Kanter, Noah, Kyle, Willy and KP. incredible...

hope we trade some of Kanter/Lee/Kyle soon

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks have one of their better benches in a long time. Of course, maybe the starting line up needs a little work, but as of now, even assuming Frank N. and WHG start (which is probably not the case in one or both instances)

Frank N
THJr
Beasley (just a guess)
KP
WHG

That still leaves a bench with:

Sessions, Jack?, CLee, Baker, Dotson, McDermott, Kuz, LFT, Kanter, KOQ, Noah


Obviously, the 3 spot is a wildcard, toss up, as it could be THJr, so the vet CLee gets to start. I think that doesn't happen as the 3 is crowded w/ Beasley, McDermott, Kuz and LFT. Beasley and LFT can see some time as small ball 4's, so I think McDermott gets the nod starting, so Beasley can sub in at the 4. It'll be interesting. There are a lot of different ways to mix post players with shooting while a lot of the bench isn't known for defense (Kanter, Kuz, Beasley, McDermott...) so my interest is how the rotations balance inside outside scoring. KP being able to shoot from outside along with Beasley and McDermott mean different ways to work around that Kanter and WHG are inside scorers.

[thebuzzardman]

And here we are now as the next chapter of incompetence.

we are supposed to run and gun right? sure with 2 centers on the floor all the time and no one who can make plays.

we should play KP at center more often now, but I'm sure that he won't get any minutes at all at the 5.

in da smallball era we have Kanter, Noah, Kyle, Willy and KP. incredible...

hope we trade some of Kanter/Lee/Kyle soon

Knicks have two too many C's but that small ball era stuff is really overstated by a lot of posters and pundits. There are plenty of big C's and even 4's in the NBA. I get that it would be great to play KP like the largest SF ever at the Center spot, but he needs a player actually capable of playing in the post, because KP is always going to be an outside/in player, not inside out.

Competent post players on the Knicks: WHG, Kanter, Beasley - I mean, have some skills and reasonable threat to score. Hence KOQ or Noah don't make the list.