Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason!

[Reign23]

Yeh that will prob cost us a add on 2nd round pick in a trade....

Randle, Knox, trier, mavs 1st, 2nd

that package is not nearly enough.

What would you propose?

difficult. if we take him into cap space we don't have to ship out randle. If we trade him, we almost certainly have to find a third team, since the kings have no use for randle.

the highest I would probably go is:

2020 first if its 3-7 range (otherwise 2021 first (top 3 protected))
Knox
2020 CHA second
2021 CHA second

[Richard4444]

that package is not nearly enough.

What would you propose?

difficult. if we take him into cap space we don't have to ship out randle. If we trade him, we almost certainly have to find a third team, since the kings have no use for randle.

the highest I would probably go is:

2020 first if its 3-7 range (otherwise 2021 first (top 3 protected))
Knox
2020 CHA second
2021 CHA second

Dont trade the 2020 frp for Buddy. We need cheap players. We are far away to be
a contender.

[spree2kawhi]

I remember when we were once playing what we called chess in the playground. We were pretty good, facing older and because of that supposedly superior players. Chess to us meant playing without dribbling the ball at all, but we didn't tell anybody we wouldn't dribble it even a single time. We won our games consistently against tough defenses and it opened my eyes, especially since those were the and1 mixtape days.

I want such players here. Steph and Klay are exactly what that was all about. I want this type of basketball that's all about shooting and cutting because it's simply superior.

[Reign23]

What would you propose?

difficult. if we take him into cap space we don't have to ship out randle. If we trade him, we almost certainly have to find a third team, since the kings have no use for randle.

the highest I would probably go is:

2020 first if its 3-7 range (otherwise 2021 first (top 3 protected))
Knox
2020 CHA second
2021 CHA second

Dont trade the 2020 frp for Buddy. We need good players. We are far away to be
a contender.

fixed.

[Esq-4]

Looking around the league, where would Randle be a good fit? His contact is not horrible and he is young.

[spree2kawhi]

Looking around the league, where would Randle be a good fit? His contact is not horrible and he is young.

This is the exercise you need in order to realize how worthless he is. He is of no use and that is because he's literally the worst shooter in the league, blocks fewer shots than Carmelo Anthony and doesn't pass the ball.

I've gone that route of trying to find someone that might want him and found out: this is really bad. Before y'all don't try to find a team for him yourselves, you won't understand how badly we need to get rid of him. There is not a single starting 5 he'd improve. He's a sixth man.

[digitaldropoff]

Looking around the league, where would Randle be a good fit? His contact is not horrible and he is young.

If the Cavs can spin Love, maybe they'd do Randle for Thompson? It's not that Randle is bad, it's just where is he really needed? He's a guy who just doesn't play winning basketball....he's someone that's starting to look like Zach Randolph. He's got game, doesn't really really play defense and can't shoot from deep, but he'll get you some numbers. In order to get good value for him, he needs to work on his game. I don't think he'll fix his low bball IQ or shot, but he needs to improve those if the Knicks want to get something worthwhile for him.

[Blockwatcher]

Jazz might be interested in Randle to get out of Conleys contract. They'll be picking around 22. We get the pick and Conley for Randle

[digitaldropoff]

Jazz might be interested in Randle to get out of Conleys contract. They'll be picking around 22. We get the pick and Conley for Randle

He'll opt in next season, but they don't need to pay Mitchell until after he expires. Because they will most likely want to reup Gobert as well, they are going to need their draft pick to supplement the fact that they'll have two max guys. Because Gobert is a monster defensively, it's not a bad fit, but they're not giving up a pick to get him just to get out of Conley's deal. They can afford him next year and spin him off at the deadline next season.

[Clyde Ward]

Smh seeing other teams buy out their vets while we’re still sitting on Portis, Ellington ... is the worst

ellington should definitely be bought out

portis is only 24 years old - yes, he's cringeworthy to watch at times, but i could see why the FO sees him less of a "vet".

[SWYM]

Looking around the league, where would Randle be a good fit? His contact is not horrible and he is young.

This is the exercise you need in order to realize how worthless he is. He is of no use and that is because he's literally the worst shooter in the league, blocks fewer shots than Carmelo Anthony and doesn't pass the ball.

I've gone that route of trying to find someone that might want him and found out: this is really bad. Before y'all don't try to find a team for him yourselves, you won't understand how badly we need to get rid of him. There is not a single starting 5 he'd improve. He's a sixth man.

You must educate the other posters who think Randle has + value in any trade...

[the_antz_nest]

that package is not nearly enough.

What would you propose?

difficult. if we take him into cap space we don't have to ship out randle. If we trade him, we almost certainly have to find a third team, since the kings have no use for randle.

the highest I would probably go is:

2020 first if its 3-7 range (otherwise 2021 first (top 3 protected))
Knox
2020 CHA second
2021 CHA second

good point about absorbing the salary.
I’m sure kings would want more than 1 player.
I wouldn’t trade a top 10 1st for him in any instance, I’m more of the clippers and mavs picks and throw in the seconds also.
I fee most GMs lean towards multiple choices as opposed to one high.

We both value buddy, great to see this fan bas agree on the type of players we should look into

[Reign23]

What would you propose?

difficult. if we take him into cap space we don't have to ship out randle. If we trade him, we almost certainly have to find a third team, since the kings have no use for randle.

the highest I would probably go is:

2020 first if its 3-7 range (otherwise 2021 first (top 3 protected))
Knox
2020 CHA second
2021 CHA second

good point about absorbing the salary.
I’m sure kings would want more than 1 player.
I wouldn’t trade a top 10 1st for him in any instance, I’m more of the clippers and mavs picks and throw in the seconds also.
I fee most GMs lean towards multiple choices as opposed to one high.

We both value buddy, great to see this fan bas agree on the type of players we should look into

yes. It will be interesting to see, who the kings value higher in the summer. bogdanovic or buddy. we could definitely use both.

[Reign23]

Looking around the league, where would Randle be a good fit? His contact is not horrible and he is young.

this is absolutely the problem. he is a decent player, but who the **** has use for a power forward that can't shoot or protect the rim? so difficult to fit this player into a properly built roster.

[aq_ua]

What should we do with Damyean Dotson this offseason? He's entering restricted free agency and is making $1.6mm this season while averaging 52.4% eFG on the season and 51.2% eFG for his career.

By comparison, Reggie Bullock is averaging 48.3% eFG this season and 54.2% eFG for his career. Bullock is making $4mm this year and $4.2mm next year (only partially guaranteed).

Dotson is 3 years younger than Bullock, similar build and overall skill set, although Bullock has a better feel for the game. Their career stats are also surprisingly similar. Dotson, though, has arguably outperformed Bullock when given minutes this season.

We will likely have decent cap space again this summer without a lot of places to spend it. Should we throw a $7mm 1 year contract at Dotson to keep him around? Ellington should be gone, but the guard rotation will still look cramped with average talent, unless we hit a homerun in the draft.

What to do?

[spree2kawhi]

Jazz might be interested in Randle to get out of Conleys contract. They'll be picking around 22. We get the pick and Conley for Randle

He'll opt in next season, but they don't need to pay Mitchell until after he expires. Because they will most likely want to reup Gobert as well, they are going to need their draft pick to supplement the fact that they'll have two max guys. Because Gobert is a monster defensively, it's not a bad fit, but they're not giving up a pick to get him just to get out of Conley's deal. They can afford him next year and spin him off at the deadline next season.

Conley is still twice the player Randle is.

[Reign23]

What should we do with Damyean Dotson this offseason? He's entering restricted free agency and is making $1.6mm this season while averaging 52.4% eFG on the season and 51.2% eFG for his career.

By comparison, Reggie Bullock is averaging 48.3% eFG this season and 54.2% eFG for his career. Bullock is making $4mm this year and $4.2mm next year (only partially guaranteed).

Dotson is 3 years younger than Bullock, similar build and overall skill set, although Bullock has a better feel for the game. Their career stats are also surprisingly similar. Dotson, though, has arguably outperformed Bullock when given minutes this season.

We will likely have decent cap space again this summer without a lot of places to spend it. Should we throw a $7mm 1 year contract at Dotson to keep him around? Ellington should be gone, but the guard rotation will still look cramped with average talent, unless we hit a homerun in the draft.

What to do?

I think you could use both for the money they make or will make. I expect Trier and Ellington gone.

[the_antz_nest]

difficult. if we take him into cap space we don't have to ship out randle. If we trade him, we almost certainly have to find a third team, since the kings have no use for randle.

the highest I would probably go is:

2020 first if its 3-7 range (otherwise 2021 first (top 3 protected))
Knox
2020 CHA second
2021 CHA second

good point about absorbing the salary.
I’m sure kings would want more than 1 player.
I wouldn’t trade a top 10 1st for him in any instance, I’m more of the clippers and mavs picks and throw in the seconds also.
I fee most GMs lean towards multiple choices as opposed to one high.

We both value buddy, great to see this fan bas agree on the type of players we should look into

yes. It will be interesting to see, who the kings value higher in the summer. bogdanovic or buddy. we could definitely use both.

For sure. We should lean into that advantage to us. I’d take both and imo this is why we accumulate assets like late 1st’s. If we can’t get the superstar via trade or FA (we cant) we go for these guys who are sure thing above average team pieces that can fit opposed to hoping we get lucky and draft/grow our own

[Esq-4]

Looking around the league, where would Randle be a good fit? His contact is not horrible and he is young.

this is absolutely the problem. he is a decent player, but who the **** has use for a power forward that can't shoot or protect the rim? so difficult to fit this player into a properly built roster.

On the other hand, who knows what some teams will look like next season. For example, if Gallo leaves OKC, they have a big hole at PF and scoring. Not saying Adams and Randle fit or Randle plays like Gallo at all, what FAs look to go to OKC?

[thebuzzardman]

Is Tobias Harris a CAA client?

Feels like a very Knick move to make. Maybe get him for some salary relief for the 76'ers, give them flexibility, get the Knicks back on the 40 win treadmill.