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dakomish23 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:I think Tyus Jones could be the more sensible PG for us right now. Knicksfan1992 agrees.
Ty-us Ty-us Ty-us!
Get him too. Get them all. I'm sick of non PGs
8516knicks wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:Why are Knicks fans so obsessed with mediocrity?
Why are so many obsessed with maintaining SUBmediocrity?
spree2kawhi wrote:Why are Knicks fans so obsessed with mediocrity?
Meat wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:Why are Knicks fans so obsessed with mediocrity?
because mediocrity is a step up overall from what the knicks have done the last 20 years
Spree2Houston wrote:Meat wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:Why are Knicks fans so obsessed with mediocrity?
because mediocrity is a step up overall from what the knicks have done the last 20 years
But we’re mediocre right now
Meat wrote:Spree2Houston wrote:Meat wrote:because mediocrity is a step up overall from what the knicks have done the last 20 years
But we’re mediocre right now
are you sure you know what mediocre means?
Spree2Houston wrote:Meat wrote:Spree2Houston wrote:
But we’re mediocre right now
are you sure you know what mediocre means?
Yeah a team in no mans land. A team not bad enough to get a top 3 pick nor good enough to be in the playoffs. Basically what we are we
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.
strummer wrote:dakomish23 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:I think Tyus Jones could be the more sensible PG for us right now. Knicksfan1992 agrees.
Ty-us Ty-us Ty-us!
Get him too. Get them all. I'm sick of non PGs
And draft TyTy Washington. And sign Tyreke Evans & Tyler Johnson. Full roster of Ty PGs.
Possible Knicks '22-'23 slogans:
"If we can't win, might as well Ty"
"Playoffs or die Tying"
bleedblue3303 wrote:I've decided to expand this topic as I think some of you are missing my original point of the post. Will Jalen Brunson make us better? Absolutely! Will Brunson fill a need? Absolutely! Does that mean we should sign Jalen Brunson? I lean toward no.
Heres why:
. If you look at the structure of the best organizations. They usually have a huge disparity between the top earning players and the rest of the team. Lets take Brooklyn for an example as we just played them
Durant/Iriving/Simmions all make 30 million plus the next highest salary is Joe Harris at 17 million and then only 8 million or lower.
If I had to guess if you asked the Nets which Salary they regret the most. It would be Joe Harris. They would be better suited finding 2 or 3 players to fill his role at much less of a cap hit.
Lets look at our team. We have 3 players in the Harris level Salary. Randle, Fournier and Rose. Adding Bruson would be a 4th. This not only prevents us from signing a potential Max player when they are available. It leaves us without a true number 1 option. Brunson who would make us better in the short term, handcuffs form signing that option.
In a perfect world the Knicks would eventually have 3 max slots and the rest of a team earning 8 million or less. I've mentioned before I would much prefer unloading Randle, Fournier and Rose for a player like Westbrook who expires after next year. Leaves us with a year to play and develop our young talent as much as possible. Gain a high draft pick and have cap room to sign a Max player outright.
Westbrook's expiring salary mixed with young pieces and or draft picks is also a good trading piece for a team with a disgruntled star.
That is why its a no go to Brunson for me.
moocow007 wrote:bleedblue3303 wrote:I've decided to expand this topic as I think some of you are missing my original point of the post. Will Jalen Brunson make us better? Absolutely! Will Brunson fill a need? Absolutely! Does that mean we should sign Jalen Brunson? I lean toward no.
Heres why:
. If you look at the structure of the best organizations. They usually have a huge disparity between the top earning players and the rest of the team. Lets take Brooklyn for an example as we just played them
Durant/Iriving/Simmions all make 30 million plus the next highest salary is Joe Harris at 17 million and then only 8 million or lower.
If I had to guess if you asked the Nets which Salary they regret the most. It would be Joe Harris. They would be better suited finding 2 or 3 players to fill his role at much less of a cap hit.
Lets look at our team. We have 3 players in the Harris level Salary. Randle, Fournier and Rose. Adding Bruson would be a 4th. This not only prevents us from signing a potential Max player when they are available. It leaves us without a true number 1 option. Brunson who would make us better in the short term, handcuffs form signing that option.
In a perfect world the Knicks would eventually have 3 max slots and the rest of a team earning 8 million or less. I've mentioned before I would much prefer unloading Randle, Fournier and Rose for a player like Westbrook who expires after next year. Leaves us with a year to play and develop our young talent as much as possible. Gain a high draft pick and have cap room to sign a Max player outright.
Westbrook's expiring salary mixed with young pieces and or draft picks is also a good trading piece for a team with a disgruntled star.
That is why its a no go to Brunson for me.
Jalen Brunson is like that kinda spunky but a bit heavy chick with the hint of sideburns and no sense for fashion willing to be your girlfriend after a decade of nothing but your right hand serving that role. Yeah great but...yeah...hmm...just not exactly thrilling or something you want to run and tell everyone about.
moocow007 wrote:bleedblue3303 wrote:I've decided to expand this topic as I think some of you are missing my original point of the post. Will Jalen Brunson make us better? Absolutely! Will Brunson fill a need? Absolutely! Does that mean we should sign Jalen Brunson? I lean toward no.
Heres why:
. If you look at the structure of the best organizations. They usually have a huge disparity between the top earning players and the rest of the team. Lets take Brooklyn for an example as we just played them
Durant/Iriving/Simmions all make 30 million plus the next highest salary is Joe Harris at 17 million and then only 8 million or lower.
If I had to guess if you asked the Nets which Salary they regret the most. It would be Joe Harris. They would be better suited finding 2 or 3 players to fill his role at much less of a cap hit.
Lets look at our team. We have 3 players in the Harris level Salary. Randle, Fournier and Rose. Adding Bruson would be a 4th. This not only prevents us from signing a potential Max player when they are available. It leaves us without a true number 1 option. Brunson who would make us better in the short term, handcuffs form signing that option.
In a perfect world the Knicks would eventually have 3 max slots and the rest of a team earning 8 million or less. I've mentioned before I would much prefer unloading Randle, Fournier and Rose for a player like Westbrook who expires after next year. Leaves us with a year to play and develop our young talent as much as possible. Gain a high draft pick and have cap room to sign a Max player outright.
Westbrook's expiring salary mixed with young pieces and or draft picks is also a good trading piece for a team with a disgruntled star.
That is why its a no go to Brunson for me.
Jalen Brunson is like that kinda spunky but a bit heavy chick with the hint of sideburns and no sense for fashion willing to be your girlfriend after a decade of nothing but your right hand serving that role. Yeah great but...yeah...hmm...just not exactly thrilling or something you want to run and tell everyone about.
HarthorneWingo wrote:moocow007 wrote:bleedblue3303 wrote:I've decided to expand this topic as I think some of you are missing my original point of the post. Will Jalen Brunson make us better? Absolutely! Will Brunson fill a need? Absolutely! Does that mean we should sign Jalen Brunson? I lean toward no.
Heres why:
. If you look at the structure of the best organizations. They usually have a huge disparity between the top earning players and the rest of the team. Lets take Brooklyn for an example as we just played them
Durant/Iriving/Simmions all make 30 million plus the next highest salary is Joe Harris at 17 million and then only 8 million or lower.
If I had to guess if you asked the Nets which Salary they regret the most. It would be Joe Harris. They would be better suited finding 2 or 3 players to fill his role at much less of a cap hit.
Lets look at our team. We have 3 players in the Harris level Salary. Randle, Fournier and Rose. Adding Bruson would be a 4th. This not only prevents us from signing a potential Max player when they are available. It leaves us without a true number 1 option. Brunson who would make us better in the short term, handcuffs form signing that option.
In a perfect world the Knicks would eventually have 3 max slots and the rest of a team earning 8 million or less. I've mentioned before I would much prefer unloading Randle, Fournier and Rose for a player like Westbrook who expires after next year. Leaves us with a year to play and develop our young talent as much as possible. Gain a high draft pick and have cap room to sign a Max player outright.
Westbrook's expiring salary mixed with young pieces and or draft picks is also a good trading piece for a team with a disgruntled star.
That is why its a no go to Brunson for me.
Jalen Brunson is like that kinda spunky but a bit heavy chick with the hint of sideburns and no sense for fashion willing to be your girlfriend after a decade of nothing but your right hand serving that role. Yeah great but...yeah...hmm...just not exactly thrilling or something you want to run and tell everyone about.
The Shakespeare of the Knicks Forum.
TheGreenArrow wrote:
I always thought and still do that he’ll end up on the Pistons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
moocow007 wrote:TheGreenArrow wrote:
I always thought and still do that he’ll end up on the Pistons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How much suckage will it be if the Pistons sign both Mitch and Brunson?
The thing working in anyone who really wants Jalen in a Knicks uniform's favor is that he's from NJ, was a Knick fan and his dad both played for and now works for the Knicks.
HarthorneWingo wrote:moocow007 wrote:TheGreenArrow wrote:
I always thought and still do that he’ll end up on the Pistons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How much suckage will it be if the Pistons sign both Mitch and Brunson?
The thing working in anyone who really wants Jalen in a Knicks uniform's favor is that he's from NJ, was a Knick fan and his dad both played for and now works for the Knicks.
Mitch isn't going to the Pistons.
He's going to Dallas or Golden State.
