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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#181 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:21 pm

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WTF!!! That's a ton of cap space. It's a shame that the Jets couldn't manage to get this trade done sooner.
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#182 » by DOT » Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:24 pm

knickabocker88 wrote: So those 65% snaps might get nervy ala the Knicks/Mavs pick situation this year.

I mean, it's roughly 6 whole games he'd have to miss

If he sat every 4th quarter and the last 2 games, that should still be roughly 66% of snaps if we assume an even distribution, which I would assume in this scenario would be more heavily front-loaded

So unless he gets a significant injury or just decides to retire mid-game, he's hitting that mark. Outside chance he pulls a Russell Wilson and absolutely stinks it up, but even in that scenario, I still think he'd be played enough to get the pick back, cause it'd be even more valuable then.
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#183 » by DOT » Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:31 pm

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WTF!!! That's a ton of cap space. It's a shame that the Jets couldn't manage to get this trade done sooner.

I think that's the issue though, is they're still like $10 million over after rookie contracts, so moves still need to be made.
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#184 » by 8516knicks » Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:24 pm

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Oscirus wrote:Now imagine if rodgers retires next year. Paying all that for one year of a qb on the downside of his career is embarrassing


It's worse when you swing and miss on someone like Russell Wilson because then you get stuck with his contract.
It's not like the Rams regret moving everything for Stafford, two years after a Superbowl they're rebuilding.

At the end of the day the Jets have a two year window to win it all, any Jet fan is going to sign up for that.

We're not 1 qb away from being superbowl contenders and as others have said, we Stull have plenty of holes that need addressing. We basically paid all that for a playoff appearance. Worse, we bid against ourselves for the privelage


"Worse, we bid against ourselves for the privelage" == you nailed it :nod:
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Post#185 » by 8516knicks » Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:27 pm

Oscirus wrote:The jets legit got bent over

I thought our front office was supposed to be smart. ****


I think "Woody" stepped in (like Hitler going for Stalingrad). :-?
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Post#186 » by Spree2Houston » Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:32 pm

I believe Jets will trade down or out of the 1st round to recoup picks. This draft is pretty weak overall. It’s better to have picks in next year’s draft
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#187 » by j4remi » Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:43 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:I believe Jets will trade down or out of the 1st round to recoup picks. This draft is pretty weak overall. It’s better to have picks in next year’s draft


I think they'll stand pat if one of the top three OTs is available. I could see them moving otherwise.

I'm also guessing they were hoping to leave this draft with a C for the future, which is why they held off on McGovern until the last minute.
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#188 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:46 pm

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WTF!!! That's a ton of cap space. It's a shame that the Jets couldn't manage to get this trade done sooner.

I think that's the issue though, is they're still like $10 million over after rookie contracts, so moves still need to be made.


oh, nevermind then. Considering that the Jets have to address their offensive line, that sounds kind of concerning tbh.
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#189 » by Oscirus » Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:02 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:I believe Jets will trade down or out of the 1st round to recoup picks. This draft is pretty weak overall. It’s better to have picks in next year’s draft

I believe so too. He read about all the supposed interest and panicked. Probs lucky that packers didnt ask for more
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#190 » by j4remi » Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:11 pm

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WTF!!! That's a ton of cap space. It's a shame that the Jets couldn't manage to get this trade done sooner.

I think that's the issue though, is they're still like $10 million over after rookie contracts, so moves still need to be made.


oh, nevermind then. Considering that the Jets have to address their offensive line, that sounds kind of concerning tbh.


The word was that they had a few contracts to renegotiate that they held off on until the Rodgers deal was done. I don't think rookie contracts are an issue. They've got around 80% of their starters from last season coming back already (including a few whose injuries line up with the team collapsing last season).
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#191 » by DOT » Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:39 pm

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DOT wrote:I think that's the issue though, is they're still like $10 million over after rookie contracts, so moves still need to be made.


oh, nevermind then. Considering that the Jets have to address their offensive line, that sounds kind of concerning tbh.


The word was that they had a few contracts to renegotiate that they held off on until the Rodgers deal was done. I don't think rookie contracts are an issue. They've got around 80% of their starters from last season coming back already (including a few whose injuries line up with the team collapsing last season).

Yeah, but the issue is that since it took so long, free agency is basically over, so you guys can't really add much even if you did restructure cap space at this point

You guys need tackles more than anything, as far as I recall, so the good news is, you should still be able to get a decent one at 15, and Duane Brown is serviceable enough even at 38

If Rodgers comes in and is his 2020, 2021 version, y'all are contenders. If he's the version he was last year or worse, y'all should still make the playoffs, but I don't know how far you'll go. It's a big risk, but I don't think y'all had any other real options at QB besides trading 2 1sts to give Lamar a fully guaranteed deal or trading up for a prospect, which are both also massive risks, but with more long term potential.
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Post#192 » by SelbyCobra » Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:40 pm

If he can stay healthy, we're about to see something truly incredible out of Garrett Wilson this year.
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#193 » by j4remi » Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:19 pm

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oh, nevermind then. Considering that the Jets have to address their offensive line, that sounds kind of concerning tbh.


The word was that they had a few contracts to renegotiate that they held off on until the Rodgers deal was done. I don't think rookie contracts are an issue. They've got around 80% of their starters from last season coming back already (including a few whose injuries line up with the team collapsing last season).

Yeah, but the issue is that since it took so long, free agency is basically over, so you guys can't really add much even if you did restructure cap space at this point

You guys need tackles more than anything, as far as I recall, so the good news is, you should still be able to get a decent one at 15, and Duane Brown is serviceable enough even at 38

If Rodgers comes in and is his 2020, 2021 version, y'all are contenders. If he's the version he was last year or worse, y'all should still make the playoffs, but I don't know how far you'll go. It's a big risk, but I don't think y'all had any other real options at QB besides trading 2 1sts to give Lamar a fully guaranteed deal or trading up for a prospect, which are both also massive risks, but with more long term potential.


Yeah, exactly right. They probably could have made some pushes to improve at Center and get a run-stuffer for D-line depth especially. Now they may not address either need with their pick-limited situation.

The tackle situation doesn't stress me too much because of that 15th pick. They've also got Becton, Mitchell, and AVT on the mend who've all looked like starter-quality tackles at times. It's all about health there, and hopefully for two guys so AVT can take a guard spot. Brown at least works as a stopgap.

I really wanted to chase Lamar. I know there's a lot of risk attached, but we're counting on Rodgers for one...maybe two years. Then we end up right back in the QB search. None of that matters if Rodgers gets us to the promised land or even close. But that remains to be seen.
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Post#194 » by j4remi » Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:22 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:If he can stay healthy, we're about to see something truly incredible out of Garrett Wilson this year.


The most exciting aspect of this trade, and one that hasn't gotten much press or hype yet...What Rodgers could mean for Garrett Wilson and Breece Hall when he returns. An average QB should be able to make this offense fun, anything close to vintage Rodgers would make it pop.
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Post#195 » by DOT » Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:27 pm

j4remi wrote:I know there's a lot of risk attached, but we're counting on Rodgers for one...maybe two years. Then we end up right back in the QB search. None of that matters if Rodgers gets us to the promised land or even close. But that remains to be seen.

That's the deal you make

Rams made that gamble, and while they're kind of adrift without a rudder right now, they won a Super Bowl, and that's all that really matters to them

If you don't win a Super Bowl, you're kind of f*cked.
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Post#196 » by Luv those Knicks » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:24 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:I believe Jets will trade down or out of the 1st round to recoup picks. This draft is pretty weak overall. It’s better to have picks in next year’s draft


If one of the offensive linemen they want is there at 15, I think they take them. O-line is too important for this season, but if they're gone, I could absolutely see them trading down. They've been pretty active moving around on draft day the last couple years.
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Post#197 » by Luv those Knicks » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:27 pm

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j4remi wrote:I know there's a lot of risk attached, but we're counting on Rodgers for one...maybe two years. Then we end up right back in the QB search. None of that matters if Rodgers gets us to the promised land or even close. But that remains to be seen.

That's the deal you make

Rams made that gamble, and while they're kind of adrift without a rudder right now, they won a Super Bowl, and that's all that really matters to them

If you don't win a Super Bowl, you're kind of f*cked.


My feeling is, the Jets weren't going to go anywhere with Zach anyway, so the gamble was worth it, whether it was Carr or Rodgers or even Lamar. I think not making a move would have been the worst outcome. An overpay beats not making a move for a QB. It's something they needed to do. If it doesn't work, rebuild in 2 years. Not much lost.

Unless you think Zach Wilson was ready to break out, I think this was an overpay that makes sense.
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Post#198 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:02 pm

Ok, in retrospect, pretty solid trade, fair for both sides
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Post#199 » by Oscirus » Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:47 pm

If the Jets bomb in 2 years, thats 2 years away from when they'll have to decide whether to extend contracts to sauce and wilson and reece, not an ideal time to rebuild
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Post#200 » by Luv those Knicks » Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:45 am

Oscirus wrote:If the Jets bomb in 2 years, thats 2 years away from when they'll have to decide whether to extend contracts to sauce and wilson and reece, not an ideal time to rebuild


Wilson is so hit or miss though. Maybe he figures it out, but I have doubts. Maybe they draft a new QB in that time. Cross that bridge when they come to it.
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