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Re: PG: 2nd Seed Baby! 

Post#181 » by ezmoney707 » Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:53 pm

mpharris36 wrote:Honestly pacers arents as good but there pace and space offense with bringing there center outside the paint is probably the worst schematic matchup for us. We do better with more traditional centers.

Also hypothetically speaking, we handle our business in the 1st round, potentially matching up with them in the 2nd round because they could very well upset the Bucks is an actually better outcome and path to the Eastern Conference finals.
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Re: PG: 2nd Seed Baby! 

Post#182 » by mpharris36 » Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:55 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:Honestly pacers arents as good but there pace and space offense with bringing there center outside the paint is probably the worst schematic matchup for us. We do better with more traditional centers.


Plus if we make it out of the first round and Milw makes it out, it's much better to have home court advantage. There was no way this team was going to intentionally throw the game



Yup and I'm not in it to just win one playoff series. This team is good enough to get to a conference finals.
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Re: PG: 2nd Seed Baby! 

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Re: PG: 2nd Seed Baby! 

Post#184 » by RHODEY » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:00 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:Honestly pacers arents as good but there pace and space offense with bringing there center outside the paint is probably the worst schematic matchup for us. We do better with more traditional centers.


Haliburton is a stud whether we want to admit it or not

And I watched the Magic game, and granted Bucks are teetering, but the Magic seemed to get their game back together today

They need another shooter, but Magic good

Heat maybe should be favored against us


With OG we steam roll them.
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Post#186 » by 3eePointGoal » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:06 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:Honestly pacers arents as good but there pace and space offense with bringing there center outside the paint is probably the worst schematic matchup for us. We do better with more traditional centers.


Haliburton is a stud whether we want to admit it or not

And I watched the Magic game, and granted Bucks are teetering, but the Magic seemed to get their game back together today

They need another shooter, but Magic good

Heat maybe should be favored against us


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Re: PG: 2nd Seed Baby! 

Post#187 » by Chanel Bomber » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:14 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:brunson should honestly win mvp

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I did agree with Burke that getting the #2 seed should open the door for considering Brunson over Giannis for first team.

jokic is having the same type of season he had last season but this time denver worse than last year (3rd seed). i don't really see an argument for jokic over brunson

Denver have a better record than the Knicks, while playing in a tougher conference. So I really don't see how seeding is a factor when they're playing in two different conferences and one has a better team record. Denver's the 2 seed in the West anyway.
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Post#188 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:22 pm

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I did agree with Burke that getting the #2 seed should open the door for considering Brunson over Giannis for first team.

jokic is having the same type of season he had last season but this time denver worse than last year (3rd seed). i don't really see an argument for jokic over brunson

Denver have a better record than the Knicks, while playing in a tougher conference. So I really don't see how seeding is a factor when they're playing in two different conferences and one has a better team record. Denver's the 2 seed in the West anyway.

jokic is also playing on a loaded team and his stats are pretty much identical to last year. brunson has been carrying the team with all the injuries we had and still led us to a 2nd seed. what brunson has done to this knicks team has been way more impressive than jokic has done to the nuggets this season imo.

i also feel like the mvp race should be between brunson and sga
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Post#189 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:24 pm

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blueNorange wrote:either they get packaged for a star or they draft 3-4 year college long player that can immediately contribute


Rose recently said publicly they're committed to growing their talent pipeline via the draft.

People may have the wrong assumptions about their intentions. There might not even be any major trade this off-season.


I hope that this is true.

You always make a fair trade but these star trades are bend over boyfriend trades. Count me out.


Bring over Rokas and look for a defensive swing man to back up OG and keep going

Only big deal I think that may actually happen is KAT for Randle which would also move a couple of other of our players

Otherwise, the reality is they don't have to bend over for anyone now nor should they

In terms of cap management, a talent pipeline becomes a necessity when you know they'll offer a maxed out extension to Brunson sooner than later and they have to sign OG. They really won't be in a position to add many other big contracts.

Therefore, if they're going to make a big move they will do it this off-season prior to inking those deals with our existing players. If they're going to move on from anyone it is Randle unless he's willing to resign at well below max numbers. KAT is more expensive, but he does replace Randle and give us the stretch big we lack.
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Post#190 » by sol537 » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:27 pm

I’m a bit worried about our defense as of late… Nets and the Bulls have made us look soft and DDV, Brunson, and Hart have been turnstiles on defense at times…

Even IHart was getting cooked today by Vucevic… concerning.
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Post#191 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:30 pm

sol537 wrote:I’m a bit worried about our defense as of late… Nets and the Bulls have made us look soft and DDV, Brunson, and Hart have been turnstiles on defense at times…

Even IHart was getting cooked today by Vucevic… concerning.


4 games in 5 days. They're just fcking tired. They've got rest time scheduled
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Post#192 » by Chanel Bomber » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:32 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:jokic is having the same type of season he had last season but this time denver worse than last year (3rd seed). i don't really see an argument for jokic over brunson

Denver have a better record than the Knicks, while playing in a tougher conference. So I really don't see how seeding is a factor when they're playing in two different conferences and one has a better team record. Denver's the 2 seed in the West anyway.

jokic is also playing on a loaded team and his stats are pretty much identical to last year. brunson has been carrying the team with all the injuries we had and still led us to a 2nd seed. what brunson has done to this knicks team has been way more impressive than jokic has done to the nuggets this season imo.

i also feel like the mvp race should be between brunson and sga

The Nuggets aren't that loaded. They have some good role players and Murray but Murray missed about a third of the regular season again and he's not a superstar either. They have great chemistry and Jokic is at the very center of it.

Jokic had one of the best RS ever last year and all the stats showed he should have won MVP over Embiid, so I don't see how having a similar season should be held against him.

You're just used to the Nuggets and Jokic being this good but consistency shouldn't be held against them in favor of novelty if they're better, which they are.

Jokic is the most impactful player in the NBA and the only players in the conversation with him this season are SGA (higher than Jokic in EPM for instance) and a healthy Embiid (who's not eligible).

Brunson has had a fantastic season but he is just not in the same stratosphere as them in terms of impact, and his team has a worse record than both Denver and OKC.

He should however be in the running for All-NBA first team. Come back to your senses bro :lol:
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Post#193 » by Chanel Bomber » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:34 pm

Knicks finish the season top 10 in defense and offense. That's pretty remarkable.
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Post#196 » by RHODEY » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:42 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
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Chanel Bomber wrote:Denver have a better record than the Knicks, while playing in a tougher conference. So I really don't see how seeding is a factor when they're playing in two different conferences and one has a better team record. Denver's the 2 seed in the West anyway.

jokic is also playing on a loaded team and his stats are pretty much identical to last year. brunson has been carrying the team with all the injuries we had and still led us to a 2nd seed. what brunson has done to this knicks team has been way more impressive than jokic has done to the nuggets this season imo.

i also feel like the mvp race should be between brunson and sga

The Nuggets aren't that loaded. They have some good role players and Murray but Murray missed about a third of the regular season again and he's not a superstar either. They have great chemistry and Jokic is at the very center of it.

Jokic had one of the best RS ever last year and all the stats showed he should have won MVP over Embiid, so I don't see how having a similar season should be held against him.

You're just used to the Nuggets and Jokic being this good but consistency shouldn't be held against them in favor of novelty if they're better, which they are.

Jokic is the most impactful player in the NBA and the only players in the conversation with him this season are SGA (higher than Jokic in EPM for instance) and a healthy Embiid (who's not eligible).

Brunson has had a fantastic season but he is just not in the same stratosphere as them in terms of impact, and his team has a worse record than both Denver and OKC.

He should however be in the running for All-NBA first team. Come back to your senses bro :lol:
He might not deserve to win....but I think he's in the same stratosphere/conversation.
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Post#197 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:04 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:Denver have a better record than the Knicks, while playing in a tougher conference. So I really don't see how seeding is a factor when they're playing in two different conferences and one has a better team record. Denver's the 2 seed in the West anyway.

jokic is also playing on a loaded team and his stats are pretty much identical to last year. brunson has been carrying the team with all the injuries we had and still led us to a 2nd seed. what brunson has done to this knicks team has been way more impressive than jokic has done to the nuggets this season imo.

i also feel like the mvp race should be between brunson and sga

The Nuggets aren't that loaded. They have some good role players and Murray but Murray missed about a third of the regular season again and he's not a superstar either. They have great chemistry and Jokic is at the very center of it.

Jokic had one of the best RS ever last year and all the stats showed he should have won MVP over Embiid, so I don't see how having a similar season should be held against him.

You're just used to the Nuggets and Jokic being this good but consistency shouldn't be held against them in favor of novelty if they're better, which they are.

Jokic is the most impactful player in the NBA and the only players in the conversation with him this season are SGA (higher than Jokic in EPM for instance) and a healthy Embiid (who's not eligible).

Brunson has had a fantastic season but he is just not in the same stratosphere as them in terms of impact, and his team has a worse record than both Denver and OKC.

He should however be in the running for All-NBA first team. Come back to your senses bro :lol:

bro they won the chip, of course they're loaded :lol:
murray still played more games than randle. so jokic had more help than brunson did this season. jokic also has porter jr, aaron gordon (whos good, he had a big impact in their post season), 3 and d KCP and a bunch of high level role players off the bench (braun and peyton watson had breakout years).

embiid rightfully won last season if you asked me. he was the best player in the regular season. playoffs is a different story :lol:

sga and jokic had way more help than brunson did so of course their team records are going to be better. not only did we lose randle, we also didn't have OG for a while, ihart playing on one achilles the whole year, mitch out for majority of the year. and we still finished 2nd seed. i feel like you're severely underrating brunson to stan for jokic. be better chanel! lol
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Post#200 » by 8516knicks » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:46 pm

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is embiid going to make it through an entire series? And he got to get through Bam and miami first

also our villinova boys will love playing in Philly.


You know Jay W. and Mikal will be on hand. Probably Ryan A. and a host of others.

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