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[god shammgod]

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well damn. sad.

Wow, his market was THAT bad...

We really should have picked him up

no

[omerome]

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well damn. sad.

Wow, his market was THAT bad...

We really should have picked him up

He was so bad that Detroit didn't even want him. Pass on that.

[MrDollarBills]

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Dario Saric got choked out last night

[mpharris36]

Those clips of Cooper flagg against the US Team and AD look legit.

I know just a scrimmage but he looks like he fits right next to most of the leagues best.

[RHODEY]

Being on an NBA roster for him is a resume builder. He is going to have access to a degree no problem. Opportunity to be in the NBA is fleeting.

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All three of these folks are 100% full of it.

I am not going to feel sorry for Lebron or his family for basketball things. For real-life things (medical emergency) of course, but I will trash that whole family on their basketball if it's justified.

Hope Bronny is healthy, but I am not rooting for him to succeed or fail.
Game 1 was bad. Like Frank bad.

Yep. As an adult I have empathy for the kid, because I'm sure he sees all the stuff being said on social media and I'm concerned for his well being mentally and physically.

In terms of basketball, the onus is on his father 100% because he set his own son up to fail. Bronny had no business being drafted and frankly he should be preparing for his sophomore year of NCAA Div 1 hoops, he could have hit the transfer portal and found a team where he could be a rotation player. On what planet does a freshman who averaged 4ppg off the bench on horrible efficiency at that even sniff an NBA workout, nevermind being drafted and receiving a guaranteed deal, on the heels of having a very serious cardiac arrest incident? Like they couldn't just pump the brakes? The kid nearly got his knee blown out trying to defend a cross over in summer league...I'm not seeing anything that leads me to believe that he's remotely league ready.

LeBron, Rich Paul, Rob Pelinka and Jeannie Buss put a target on this boy's back. I'm sure LeBron hasn't heard the word "no" in nearly 30 years but someone should have been honest. JJ Reddick looks crazy talking about how Bronny earned his draft selection, no he didn't

JJ looks crazy taking that job all together... but that's another story.

I think most kids with Bronny's athletic profile, if properly coached up and dedicated, can be moderately successful in the NBA.
Bronny is obviously used to this attention and every dribble he had in college was also under a magnifying glass.
The talk that he cannot be sent to the developmental league and could be getting NBA playing time to some effect is pretty jarring because he is not really going to get the chances offensively.
OTOH, Bronny is intended to a) be a project, and b) be more of a defensive player early on. Think Jimmy Butler. Think Josh Hart even. That's who he needs to be in order to succeed. I have confidence that this will all play out and Bronny in a few years when dad is retired and his basketball peak is more obvious, there will be plans A, B, C through z for what he wants to do as a career.

I respectfully disagree, I think most kids with his physical (6'1") and skills (can't shoot)profile wouldnt be extremely lucky to ever make it into the league....if he's lucky he can try to become Pat Beverly, but even that looks like a huge stretch right now. He should have stayed in school to give himself better odds....too bad his entitled daddy thinks his son is the Prince to his lordly "Kingness".

[MrDollarBills]

Those clips of Cooper flagg against the US Team and AD look legit.

I know just a scrimmage but he looks like he fits right next to most of the leagues best.

Just came in after seeing the footage

That kid can play

That's what an NBA prospect looks like.

[nykballa2k4]

Yep. As an adult I have empathy for the kid, because I'm sure he sees all the stuff being said on social media and I'm concerned for his well being mentally and physically.

In terms of basketball, the onus is on his father 100% because he set his own son up to fail. Bronny had no business being drafted and frankly he should be preparing for his sophomore year of NCAA Div 1 hoops, he could have hit the transfer portal and found a team where he could be a rotation player. On what planet does a freshman who averaged 4ppg off the bench on horrible efficiency at that even sniff an NBA workout, nevermind being drafted and receiving a guaranteed deal, on the heels of having a very serious cardiac arrest incident? Like they couldn't just pump the brakes? The kid nearly got his knee blown out trying to defend a cross over in summer league...I'm not seeing anything that leads me to believe that he's remotely league ready.

LeBron, Rich Paul, Rob Pelinka and Jeannie Buss put a target on this boy's back. I'm sure LeBron hasn't heard the word "no" in nearly 30 years but someone should have been honest. JJ Reddick looks crazy talking about how Bronny earned his draft selection, no he didn't

JJ looks crazy taking that job all together... but that's another story.

I think most kids with Bronny's athletic profile, if properly coached up and dedicated, can be moderately successful in the NBA.
Bronny is obviously used to this attention and every dribble he had in college was also under a magnifying glass.
The talk that he cannot be sent to the developmental league and could be getting NBA playing time to some effect is pretty jarring because he is not really going to get the chances offensively.
OTOH, Bronny is intended to a) be a project, and b) be more of a defensive player early on. Think Jimmy Butler. Think Josh Hart even. That's who he needs to be in order to succeed. I have confidence that this will all play out and Bronny in a few years when dad is retired and his basketball peak is more obvious, there will be plans A, B, C through z for what he wants to do as a career.

I respectfully disagree, I think most kids with his physical (6'1") and skills (can't shoot)profile wouldnt be extremely lucky to ever make it into the league....if he's lucky he can try to become Pat Beverly, but even that looks like a huge stretch right now. He should have stayed in school to give himself better odds....too bad his entitled daddy thinks his son is the Prince to his lordly "Kingness".

6'2", good lateral speed, good hops, good end to end speed.

I specifically didn't talk about his skills. I think that with everything he has access to, should he work hard at improving, he could be serviceable, maybe even good some day.

Most kids don't get EVERY chance to be successful. For Thibs you can bust your bum at what is left of practice, but if you don't put good film out in tiny windows he gives you of real playing time ... back to purgatory.

Now, if he doesn't have his dads drive, and wants to chuck ill advised shots ... He won't get too far. If he trains with a real shooting coach, maintains his progress on defense, establishes that he has an NBA handle, and is able to execute PnR and Duhonian levels... he would be legit.

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[RHODEY]

JJ looks crazy taking that job all together... but that's another story.

I think most kids with Bronny's athletic profile, if properly coached up and dedicated, can be moderately successful in the NBA.
Bronny is obviously used to this attention and every dribble he had in college was also under a magnifying glass.
The talk that he cannot be sent to the developmental league and could be getting NBA playing time to some effect is pretty jarring because he is not really going to get the chances offensively.
OTOH, Bronny is intended to a) be a project, and b) be more of a defensive player early on. Think Jimmy Butler. Think Josh Hart even. That's who he needs to be in order to succeed. I have confidence that this will all play out and Bronny in a few years when dad is retired and his basketball peak is more obvious, there will be plans A, B, C through z for what he wants to do as a career.

I respectfully disagree, I think most kids with his physical (6'1") and skills (can't shoot)profile wouldnt be extremely lucky to ever make it into the league....if he's lucky he can try to become Pat Beverly, but even that looks like a huge stretch right now. He should have stayed in school to give himself better odds....too bad his entitled daddy thinks his son is the Prince to his lordly "Kingness".

6'2", good lateral speed, good hops, good end to end speed.

I specifically didn't talk about his skills. I think that with everything he has access to, should he work hard at improving, he could be serviceable, maybe even good some day.

Most kids don't get EVERY chance to be successful. For Thibs you can bust your bum at what is left of practice, but if you don't put good film out in tiny windows he gives you of real playing time ... back to purgatory.

Now, if he doesn't have his dads drive, and wants to chuck ill advised shots ... He won't get too far. If he trains with a real shooting coach, maintains his progress on defense, establishes that he has an NBA handle, and is able to execute PnR and Duhonian levels... he would be legit.

6'1' you need to be elite elite at something. "good" doesn't cut it by far. This is the NBA....Kid has had access to the best tutelage out there and is only" good...isnt good - especially when his offensive skill set is poor. But I digress.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Ah. Funny I just watched her highlights on YouTube, first rookie triple double in league history. Great passer

Oh for sure. She's an excellent rebounder too, I think on the season she's averaging 16/6/6.

Devilish numbers.

underrated post

[MrDollarBills]

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Man dude has the height, frame and explosiveness

[Capn'O]

Ware to Miami is such a good fit

[moocow007]

Being on an NBA roster for him is a resume builder. He is going to have access to a degree no problem. Opportunity to be in the NBA is fleeting.

watching "Undisputed" clip

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All three of these folks are 100% full of it.

I am not going to feel sorry for Lebron or his family for basketball things. For real-life things (medical emergency) of course, but I will trash that whole family on their basketball if it's justified.

Hope Bronny is healthy, but I am not rooting for him to succeed or fail.
Game 1 was bad. Like Frank bad.

Yep. As an adult I have empathy for the kid, because I'm sure he sees all the stuff being said on social media and I'm concerned for his well being mentally and physically.

In terms of basketball, the onus is on his father 100% because he set his own son up to fail. Bronny had no business being drafted and frankly he should be preparing for his sophomore year of NCAA Div 1 hoops, he could have hit the transfer portal and found a team where he could be a rotation player. On what planet does a freshman who averaged 4ppg off the bench on horrible efficiency at that even sniff an NBA workout, nevermind being drafted and receiving a guaranteed deal, on the heels of having a very serious cardiac arrest incident? Like they couldn't just pump the brakes? The kid nearly got his knee blown out trying to defend a cross over in summer league...I'm not seeing anything that leads me to believe that he's remotely league ready.

LeBron, Rich Paul, Rob Pelinka and Jeannie Buss put a target on this boy's back. I'm sure LeBron hasn't heard the word "no" in nearly 30 years but someone should have been honest. JJ Reddick looks crazy talking about how Bronny earned his draft selection, no he didn't

JJ looks crazy taking that job all together... but that's another story.

I think most kids with Bronny's athletic profile, if properly coached up and dedicated, can be moderately successful in the NBA.
Bronny is obviously used to this attention and every dribble he had in college was also under a magnifying glass.
The talk that he cannot be sent to the developmental league and could be getting NBA playing time to some effect is pretty jarring because he is not really going to get the chances offensively.
OTOH, Bronny is intended to a) be a project, and b) be more of a defensive player early on. Think Jimmy Butler. Think Josh Hart even. That's who he needs to be in order to succeed. I have confidence that this will all play out and Bronny in a few years when dad is retired and his basketball peak is more obvious, there will be plans A, B, C through z for what he wants to do as a career.

He's really not that superior athletically. Not compared to most of the wings in the NBA. As far as properly coached up and dedicated? I'm not sure that being a "James" will allow the former, especially in the shadow of his father. Dedication? I can't say. Just because the father has the otherworldly dedication to the game doesn't necessarily the son has. Have to wonder how much of this is because he doesn't want to disappoint his dad or his dad not allowing him to be anything else.

As far as him being a project or a defensive type player? The problem is that college and summer league makes superstars out of projects if the project is talented enough. You still need talent. Even the role players in the NBA have loads of talent. You take just about any NBA role player that gets minutes and is part of a rotation, drop them anywhere else on the planet outside the NBA and they'd be stars. Bronny has looked brutal in college and he did not look remotely talented enough to be in the NBA. Projects have talent. That talent you can see when the play. Bronny James? Not so much.

Sure you can blame the heart problem for how he looked at USC but you cannot fool the eyes.

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[Guano]

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Man dude has the height, frame and explosiveness

Love to see it.

Price of the brick just went down. Teams are in tank mode.

Offer ainge a few 2nds with this video.

[MrDollarBills]

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53m per

Man. Must be nice

[spree2kawhi]

JJ looks crazy taking that job all together... but that's another story.

I think most kids with Bronny's athletic profile, if properly coached up and dedicated, can be moderately successful in the NBA.
Bronny is obviously used to this attention and every dribble he had in college was also under a magnifying glass.
The talk that he cannot be sent to the developmental league and could be getting NBA playing time to some effect is pretty jarring because he is not really going to get the chances offensively.
OTOH, Bronny is intended to a) be a project, and b) be more of a defensive player early on. Think Jimmy Butler. Think Josh Hart even. That's who he needs to be in order to succeed. I have confidence that this will all play out and Bronny in a few years when dad is retired and his basketball peak is more obvious, there will be plans A, B, C through z for what he wants to do as a career.

I respectfully disagree, I think most kids with his physical (6'1") and skills (can't shoot)profile wouldnt be extremely lucky to ever make it into the league....if he's lucky he can try to become Pat Beverly, but even that looks like a huge stretch right now. He should have stayed in school to give himself better odds....too bad his entitled daddy thinks his son is the Prince to his lordly "Kingness".

6'2", good lateral speed, good hops, good end to end speed.

I specifically didn't talk about his skills. I think that with everything he has access to, should he work hard at improving, he could be serviceable, maybe even good some day.

Most kids don't get EVERY chance to be successful. For Thibs you can bust your bum at what is left of practice, but if you don't put good film out in tiny windows he gives you of real playing time ... back to purgatory.

Now, if he doesn't have his dads drive, and wants to chuck ill advised shots ... He won't get too far. If he trains with a real shooting coach, maintains his progress on defense, establishes that he has an NBA handle, and is able to execute PnR and Duhonian levels... he would be legit.

You seem to have no idea what you’re talking about… pro-ball isn’t for everybody.

[nykballa2k4]

I respectfully disagree, I think most kids with his physical (6'1") and skills (can't shoot)profile wouldnt be extremely lucky to ever make it into the league....if he's lucky he can try to become Pat Beverly, but even that looks like a huge stretch right now. He should have stayed in school to give himself better odds....too bad his entitled daddy thinks his son is the Prince to his lordly "Kingness".

6'2", good lateral speed, good hops, good end to end speed.

I specifically didn't talk about his skills. I think that with everything he has access to, should he work hard at improving, he could be serviceable, maybe even good some day.

Most kids don't get EVERY chance to be successful. For Thibs you can bust your bum at what is left of practice, but if you don't put good film out in tiny windows he gives you of real playing time ... back to purgatory.

Now, if he doesn't have his dads drive, and wants to chuck ill advised shots ... He won't get too far. If he trains with a real shooting coach, maintains his progress on defense, establishes that he has an NBA handle, and is able to execute PnR and Duhonian levels... he would be legit.

You seem to have no idea what you’re talking about… pro-ball isn’t for everybody.

I don't think you get the difference between given ability and acquired ability.

Given ability are things like reflexes, height, build, quickness, explosiveness

Acquired are things like shooting, timing, passing accuracy, strength

He is 6'1.5" at the combine and had good scores for jumping, speed and agility. Also has 6'7" wingspan. He has the measurables of an NBA player.

I don't know his game well enough to say if he has a good bbiq or not.

What we all know is that his shooting and scoring stats are poor at present.

Fixing a jump shot for someone with a work ethic is actually pretty easy. Usually guards who cannot break down a defense continue to struggle with that over time. I don't have evidence that Bronny CAN'T do that.

Now you would think that LeBrons kid would have taken some shooting lessons with Ray Allen, but fwiw, JJ is now his head coach.

The only thing I trust JJ to teach anyone is how to shoot.

I can't find the commercial, but in the 2000's there was a shooting program that advertised "Shoot the ball like JJ Redick"

At the end of the day, he has to improve a lot to be a useful player, but he has all the tools perhaps aside from health at the moment.

[nykballa2k4]

Ware to Miami is such a good fit

Really is.

I have said it before and I will repeat.
Coaches off of the Riley tree will always develop centers well.