PG: Knicks vs. Mavericks (They Left Their Offense in Denver)

[Context]

The Mavs basically played an 8-man rotation with spot minutes for Powell and some guy I never heard of. Their bench was Dinwiddie, Hardy and Kleiber. The Knicks bench was Payne, McBride and Sims. Dinwiddie and Payne are comparable level players with Payne actually having the better year so far. I would choose Deuce over Hardy who is shooting terribly this year. The difference between Sims and whatever Kleiber has to offer at this stage of his career should not have made a huge difference in yesterday's game. The talent in our starting 5 was far superior than their talent.

I expect the Knicks team to improve as the season goes along but I don't know how you can look at yesterday's game and see some talent gap in favor of the Mavs or some superior chemistry of a group where 3 of 4 guys who scored 20 points just joined the roster this off-season.

The Mavs didnt lose any main player. We lost 3 and brought in two main players. And we brought in several non main players, BIG difference JayT...This isnt about my opinion- its about the fact. That core Mav team is the same. Luka and Gad had a day off. Thats not our situation...

on edit: they lost a main bench player in Derrick but as you can see Naji easily replaces him...

The Mavs were down 2 starters last night, there's no sanitizing this loss. The lineup we played yesterday has played more games together than that rag tag lineup the Mavs were using, that was only the 6th game Naji has started this year, and only the 42nd time he's started in his career.

the short handed new knicks lost to the defending western conference champs. period.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

The Mavs didnt lose any main player. We lost 3 and brought in two main players. And we brought in several non main players, BIG difference JayT...This isnt about my opinion- its about the fact. That core Mav team is the same. Luka and Gad had a day off. Thats not our situation...

on edit: they lost a main bench player in Derrick but as you can see Naji easily replaces him...

The Mavs were down 2 starters last night, there's no sanitizing this loss. The lineup we played yesterday has played more games together than that rag tag lineup the Mavs were using, that was only the 6th game Naji has started this year, and only the 42nd time he's started in his career.

the short handed new knicks lost to the defending western conference champs. period.

We're short handed, but the team missing their top 5 player isn't short handed? They don't make it out the first round without Luka, labeling them WCF champs while Luka is out is crazy work.


That was a bad loss.

[Spree2Houston]

When is Precious coming back ? The timetable given was 2-4 weeks but he’s been out for over 6 weeks.

[Spree2Houston]

The Mavs didnt lose any main player. We lost 3 and brought in two main players. And we brought in several non main players, BIG difference JayT...This isnt about my opinion- its about the fact. That core Mav team is the same. Luka and Gad had a day off. Thats not our situation...

on edit: they lost a main bench player in Derrick but as you can see Naji easily replaces him...

The Mavs were down 2 starters last night, there's no sanitizing this loss. The lineup we played yesterday has played more games together than that rag tag lineup the Mavs were using, that was only the 6th game Naji has started this year, and only the 42nd time he's started in his career.

the short handed new knicks lost to the defending western conference champs. period.

Living by your username eh

[FrozenEnvelope]

Thanksgiving thoughts

1. Happy Thanksgiving to all Knicks fans around the world...except the trolls. I hope your turkey is spoiled.

2. 18 games in and clearly the defense needs a lot of work. Mitch and Precious will help but the biggest weakness right now is defending the 3. We are just not crisp on rotations and are allowing the 4th worst 3PT% against. This needs to get a lot better. Especially in the 4th quarters.

3. I expected to be at 11-7 thus far so we're only a game worse. There is a lot to be encouraged about. KAT playing like an elite big, OG taking that next step into an All-Star level, Brunson going his thing, Hart doing his thing, Deuce and Payne giving us something off the bench and even Sims having his moments.

4. I still think Bridges will find his spot and get going offensively. He hit 4/10 from 3 last night so progress and ability is there. It's his defense that is concerning and disappointing. He must take more pride in his one on one matchup and play with more urgency and energy.

5. I believe in Thibs but he needs to start sending a message and reducing minutes if the defensive effort is low regardless of the name on the jersey or how much money they make.

[Context]

The Mavs were down 2 starters last night, there's no sanitizing this loss. The lineup we played yesterday has played more games together than that rag tag lineup the Mavs were using, that was only the 6th game Naji has started this year, and only the 42nd time he's started in his career.

the short handed new knicks lost to the defending western conference champs. period.

We're short handed, but the team missing their top 5 player isn't short handed? They don't make it out the first round without Luka, labeling them WCF champs while Luka is out is crazy work.


That was a bad loss.

they dont need their top 5 player to beat our current knick team. very simple to understand. now if they were playing Boston or Cleavland then they would need luka.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

the short handed new knicks lost to the defending western conference champs. period.

We're short handed, but the team missing their top 5 player isn't short handed? They don't make it out the first round without Luka, labeling them WCF champs while Luka is out is crazy work.


That was a bad loss.

they dont need their top 5 player to beat our current knick team. very simple to understand. now if they were playing Boston or Cleavland then they would need luka.

That lineup they used has played 6 games together, you're trying too hard to frame this as our team being new, and there's being intact when they had 2 guys starting that aren't starters


That was a bad loss, probably even worse than the Utah or Atlanta lossess.

[Context]

The Mavs were down 2 starters last night, there's no sanitizing this loss. The lineup we played yesterday has played more games together than that rag tag lineup the Mavs were using, that was only the 6th game Naji has started this year, and only the 42nd time he's started in his career.

the short handed new knicks lost to the defending western conference champs. period.

Living by your username eh

I should make it my middle name - it brings clarity to so much in life Spree

[Spree2Houston]

I won’t judge this team until we get Mitch, Precious and to an extent Shamet back. Mitch and Precious will help out with the defensive issues and Shamet could provide Donte light numbers off the bench. Who I’m most worried about is Mikal. He needs to get his **** together. If he was playing the way we envisioned him playing we would’ve overcame a lot of these bad losses. Otherwise find a team who still has interest and trade him for pieces. We have our 3 all stars to build around now - Brunson, KAT, and OG.

[Handledatruth]

We lost because Spencer Dinwiddie continued his weird campaign against the New York Knicks like he is still a Net. Him tossing up contested threes out of an iso like he is Carmelo Anthony is an outlier. I don't take him having a game like this seriously.

Now OG needs to be more consistent, because most of his shots were open. Not sure what he had going on last night, but teams won't guard Brunson and Towns differently if they know the other starters are inconsistent. I actually trust Mikal being a scorer more than I trust OG and that's not a good thing.

[sol537]

OG the only one playing defense right now. That’s not gonna cut it.

[taikibansei]

When is Precious coming back ? The timetable given was 2-4 weeks but he’s been out for over 6 weeks.

Likely, late December/early January. Still, there are finally some good signs:

According to The Athletic’s James L. Edwards III, Knicks head coach Tom Thibodeau said Monday that Achiuwa “is pretty much doing everything now” in practice as he works his way back from a hamstring strain he suffered in the preseason. Achiuwa has missed all 17 games this season as he deals with the injury.

https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/knicks-eyeing-major-bench-reinforcements/

[Clyde_Style]

We need our moves at the margins to be immaculate. Meaning we need the rookies to pan.

Meaning we need to play them more, and in meaningful games.

Your lips to Thibs ears, I hope.

I woke up feeling exactly as I did last night.

Thibs is going to grind this team down and we're not advancing deep into the playoffs.

What I witnessed last night with OG was disturbing. His defensive game is built on maintaining a low stance and utilizing his wingspan. The man was so exhausted that he repeatedly collapsed to the floor when his stance got low on offense.

What kind of lunatic plays a guy in this depleted state 40 minutes? Thibs

I'm feeling very checked out about this. I have no faith we'll field a healthy squad this season and into the playoffs. As long as Thibs is the coach he is going to keep overplaying guys when they are clearly gassed and it will result in more injuries.

Sad as hell about this, because the talent level is all there now. I love the players and can embrace them with their flaws included. But I am not down with a stubborn mule of a coach who can't read the room.

I'm so pissed off about this it is probably a good time to take a break from watching the games live and speed watching the condensed game recordings they have on league pass to save myself several hours a week. Thibs makes investing in this team's future pointless.

[Clyde_Style]

the short handed new knicks lost to the defending western conference champs. period.

Living by your username eh

I should make it my middle name - it brings clarity to so much in life Spree

Gorilla Context Monsoon

I like it

[Context]

Living by your username eh

I should make it my middle name - it brings clarity to so much in life Spree

Gorilla Context Monsoon

I like it

Monsoon? tell me more CS...

[Clyde_Style]

I should make it my middle name - it brings clarity to so much in life Spree

Gorilla Context Monsoon

I like it

Monsoon? tell me more CS...

Robert James "Gino" Marella, better known by his ring name of Gorilla Monsoon, was an American professional wrestler, play-by-play commentator, and booker.

[TheGreenArrow]

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[RHODEY]

The Mavs didnt lose any main player. We lost 3 and brought in two main players. And we brought in several non main players, BIG difference JayT...This isnt about my opinion- its about the fact. That core Mav team is the same. Luka and Gad had a day off. Thats not our situation...

on edit: they lost a main bench player in Derrick but as you can see Naji easily replaces him...

The Mavs were down 2 starters last night, there's no sanitizing this loss. The lineup we played yesterday has played more games together than that rag tag lineup the Mavs were using, that was only the 6th game Naji has started this year, and only the 42nd time he's started in his career.

the short handed new knicks lost to the defending western conference champs. period.

Pun intended?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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We can blame this on Mikal







Why the hell did this bozo change his shot?

[Context]

The Mavs were down 2 starters last night, there's no sanitizing this loss. The lineup we played yesterday has played more games together than that rag tag lineup the Mavs were using, that was only the 6th game Naji has started this year, and only the 42nd time he's started in his career.

the short handed new knicks lost to the defending western conference champs. period.

Pun intended?

they were definitely defending last night...Anytime Brunson comes to Dallas they will be up for the game...