KD to the Knicks part 2?

[3toheadmelo]

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Remember Marc stein said that rival teams think we acquired KAT simply to move him for Giannis. And the fact that we already talked to the Suns about moving KAT for KD speaks volumes.

[3toheadmelo]

Trade Karl for Giannis, package Mikal for Sabonis. Boom.

I feel like Sabonis is empty calories though. Hes been choking in the playoffs. I doubt the kings want Mikal anyways, lavine has been very good for them.

[nedleeds]

I love KD, his contract expires next year. He'll blow his knee out in the first 30 minutes and we can tank every other year while the Nets harvest our blood for half a decade from a trade for homeless Shane Battier.

[HopelessKnick]

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Remember Marc stein said that rival teams think we acquired KAT simply to move him for Giannis. And the fact that we already talked to the Suns about moving KAT for KD speaks volumes.

Good analysis by that guy. With the Bridges trade Leon has made it absolutely imperative that the Knicks hit on a couple bench pieces. All the more astounding that the coach is doing the exact opposite of what is actually needed.

[MrDollarBills]

Trade Karl for Giannis, package Mikal for Sabonis. Boom.

I feel like Sabonis is empty calories though. Hes been choking in the playoffs. I doubt the kings want Mikal anyways, lavine has been very good for them.

Hear me out:

Sabonis
Giannis
OG
Deuce
Brunson

We're small in the backcourt but that front line is physically dominant. Sabonis also will be needed to help space a bit.

[MrDollarBills]

I just can't stand the thought of Kevin Durant being here. The way he quit against Boston when Brooklyn got swept...I don't trust the guy. At all.

[3toheadmelo]

Trade Karl for Giannis, package Mikal for Sabonis. Boom.

I feel like Sabonis is empty calories though. Hes been choking in the playoffs. I doubt the kings want Mikal anyways, lavine has been very good for them.

Hear me out:

Sabonis
Giannis
OG
Deuce
Brunson

We're small in the backcourt but that front line is physically dominant. Sabonis also will be needed to help space a bit.

Not sure I trust sabonis’s defense though.

[mpharris36]

I don't have an issue with trading for Giannis (I don't know many people who would he's one of the best players in the sport). KAT+whatever else can obviously be traded for that. I would have an issue trading for an older player like KD.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

I don't have an issue with trading for Giannis (I don't know many people who would he's one of the best players in the sport). KAT+whatever else can obviously be traded for that. I would have an issue trading for an older player like KD.

KD is a better player right now than Giannis, statistically if you like (which I know you do ), and will be for the rest of their current contracts.

Plus, at this point the Suns probably just want to dump KD, whereas the Bucks don't want to dump Giannis. (And yes, that's because the Suns management is terrible, but it's still a thing.)

[mpharris36]

I don't have an issue with trading for Giannis (I don't know many people who would he's one of the best players in the sport). KAT+whatever else can obviously be traded for that. I would have an issue trading for an older player like KD.

KD is a better player right now than Giannis, statistically if you like (which I know you dio ), and will be for the rest of their current contracts.

Plus, at this point the Suns probably just want to dump KD, whereas the Bucks don't want to dump Giannis. (And yes, that's because the Suns management is terrible, but it's still a thing.)

How is KD a better play than Giannis right now?

If you swapped them PHX would have a better record and MIL would have a worse record.

[3toheadmelo]

Nah I'm good. These washed up stars always want to look at the Knicks when their careers are fading

Knicks fans have good reason to **** on KD. But you can't look at KD's numbers this season at 52/43/83 @ 27 PPG as washed up.

He beat the Cavs by himself the other day. He still has it. Idgaf how old he is if he’s still playing better than 95 % of the league.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

I don't have an issue with trading for Giannis (I don't know many people who would he's one of the best players in the sport). KAT+whatever else can obviously be traded for that. I would have an issue trading for an older player like KD.

KD is a better player right now than Giannis, statistically if you like (which I know you dio ), and will be for the rest of their current contracts.

Plus, at this point the Suns probably just want to dump KD, whereas the Bucks don't want to dump Giannis. (And yes, that's because the Suns management is terrible, but it's still a thing.)

How is KD a better play than Giannis right now?

If you swapped them PHX would have a better record and MIL would have a worse record.

Look at the wildcat and 3melo posts in the post above this.

The Suns problems are with terrible roster construction. They are _lacking_ at PG and center. Ok. For them specifically maybe Giannis would solve the center problem. But that's not a question the Knicks need to address. A fit Mitch (+Huk) is pretty great if you are prepared to live with a non 3pt shooting centre - such as Giannis. Ofc health/depth is a problem for all of these teams, the Suns and the Bucks as well as the Knicks.

Would the Knicks prefer to live in a besartian world of a starting five of

Mitch
Kat
KD
Kyrie
JB

which could be possible ...

Absolutely.

Giannis
OG
Mikal
Deuce
JB

Meh. That's not competitive with the Celtics. Not unless Giannis takes KP out of the equation again.

[Capn'O]

I don't have an issue with trading for Giannis (I don't know many people who would he's one of the best players in the sport). KAT+whatever else can obviously be traded for that. I would have an issue trading for an older player like KD.

Same. I mean, I'd absolutely welcome Giannis. That alleviates the whole defensive issue though we'd need to balance the shooting to have a shot at the title.

I also don't think it's likely unless Giannis demands it but maybe he demands it.

[mpharris36]

KD is a better player right now than Giannis, statistically if you like (which I know you dio ), and will be for the rest of their current contracts.

Plus, at this point the Suns probably just want to dump KD, whereas the Bucks don't want to dump Giannis. (And yes, that's because the Suns management is terrible, but it's still a thing.)

How is KD a better play than Giannis right now?

If you swapped them PHX would have a better record and MIL would have a worse record.

Look at the wildcat and 3melo posts in the post above this.

The Suns problems are with terrible roster construction. They are _lacking_ at PG and center. Ok. For them specifically maybe Giannis would solve the center problem. But that's not a question the Knicks need to address. A fit Mitch (+Huk) is pretty great if you are prepared to live with a non 3pt shooting centre - such as Giannis. Ofc health/depth is a problem for all of these teams, the Suns and the Bucks as well as the Knicks.

Would the Knicks prefer to live in a besartian world of a starting five of

Mitch
Kat
KD
Kyrie
JB

which could be possible ...

Absolutely.

Giannis
OG
Mikal
Deuce
JB

Meh. That's not competitive with the Celtics. Not unless Giannis takes KP out of the equation again.

so your actually serious?

Lets first start with the CBA.

KD - 55 MM
KAT - 50 MM
JB - 35 MM
Kyrie 44 MM

you have 185 MM tied up in 4 bad defensive players and your basically already at the 2nd apron? Your trading OG? This isn't NBA 2k.

I would 100% put a ton of money that Giannis/OG/Mikal/Deuce/JB is a much more competitive team vs the celtics than the other team. They just put KAT/KD/Brunson/Kyrie in a bunch of screens and kill us.

Giannis + defender
OG elite defender
Mikal + defender
Deuce + defender

[mpharris36]

I don't have an issue with trading for Giannis (I don't know many people who would he's one of the best players in the sport). KAT+whatever else can obviously be traded for that. I would have an issue trading for an older player like KD.

Same. I mean, I'd absolutely welcome Giannis. That alleviates the whole defensive issue though we'd need to balance the shooting to have a shot at the title.

I also don't think it's likely unless Giannis demands it but maybe he demands it.

yeah you would have to tinker with the Giannis build because you would need a center or another big next to him that can shoot a little for spacing. But Giannis OG would be very formidable defensively. And you can even run some small ball with Giannis at the 5 and OG at the 4 especially vs a team like the Celtics because Giannis could easily guard KP.

[DOT]

Giannis is a top 4, top 5 at absolute worst player in the league. KD is not at this point

But if you're going for Giannis, you need to keep KAT, or get a floor spacing C. I shudder at the thought of a Hart-Giannis-Mitch frontcourt, zero spacing at all.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

I don't have an issue with trading for Giannis (I don't know many people who would he's one of the best players in the sport). KAT+whatever else can obviously be traded for that. I would have an issue trading for an older player like KD.

Same. I mean, I'd absolutely welcome Giannis. That alleviates the whole defensive issue though we'd need to balance the shooting to have a shot at the title.

I also don't think it's likely unless Giannis demands it but maybe he demands it.

yeah you would have to tinker with the Giannis build because you would need a center or another big next to him that can shoot a little for spacing. But Giannis OG would be very formidable defensively. And you can even run some small ball with Giannis at the 5 and OG at the 4 especially vs a team like the Celtics because Giannis could easily guard KP.

Giannis can only guard KP by submarining him.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Giannis is a top 4, top 5 at absolute worst player in the league. KD is not at this point

But if you're going for Giannis, you need to keep KAT, or get a floor spacing C. I shudder at the thought of a Hart-Giannis-Mitch frontcourt, zero spacing at all.

Ok, I'll bite. Where is KD in the top-x? And how much difference does it make to be top-x instead of top-y?

So who are the top players really?

Jokic. SGA. Ant. ... Wemby, Tatum, Luka .. Steff ... ???

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

How is KD a better play than Giannis right now?

If you swapped them PHX would have a better record and MIL would have a worse record.

Look at the wildcat and 3melo posts in the post above this.

The Suns problems are with terrible roster construction. They are _lacking_ at PG and center. Ok. For them specifically maybe Giannis would solve the center problem. But that's not a question the Knicks need to address. A fit Mitch (+Huk) is pretty great if you are prepared to live with a non 3pt shooting centre - such as Giannis. Ofc health/depth is a problem for all of these teams, the Suns and the Bucks as well as the Knicks.

Would the Knicks prefer to live in a besartian world of a starting five of

Mitch
Kat
KD
Kyrie
JB

which could be possible ...

Absolutely.

Giannis
OG
Mikal
Deuce
JB

Meh. That's not competitive with the Celtics. Not unless Giannis takes KP out of the equation again.

so your actually serious?

Lets first start with the CBA.

KD - 55 MM
KAT - 50 MM
JB - 35 MM
Kyrie 44 MM

you have 185 MM tied up in 4 bad defensive players and your basically already at the 2nd apron? Your trading OG? This isn't NBA 2k.

I would 100% put a ton of money that Giannis/OG/Mikal/Deuce/JB is a much more competitive team vs the celtics than the other team. They just put KAT/KD/Brunson/Kyrie in a bunch of screens and kill us.

Giannis + defender
OG elite defender
Mikal + defender
Deuce + defender

I mean, I'm assuming Thibs isn't going to be the coach of this.

[mpharris36]

Giannis is a top 4, top 5 at absolute worst player in the league. KD is not at this point

But if you're going for Giannis, you need to keep KAT, or get a floor spacing C. I shudder at the thought of a Hart-Giannis-Mitch frontcourt, zero spacing at all.

I just don't think you can afford 2 +50 MM salaries and that is with Giannis going into the 60's down the road.

Also there is no way MIL accepts a trade with us without KAT involved...they need an all-star in return.

Maybe Brook Lopez would be interested in joining Giannis as a FA.