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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1801 » by IllmaticHandler » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:47 pm

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IllmaticHandler wrote:THJ knows what its like in NY. I would not be surprised on the second go round dude works his ass off. One thing I will give him credit for, he wants to be a stud, and is not content with just being in the NBA. He wants to be a Killer, so he will try to become better.




He also improved his handle alot. Dude could hardy dribble when he was here. Being able to dribble make him more dangerous.
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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1802 » by Spandau » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:47 pm

I like it.

Productive player, too many folks are ignoring the growth he's made in his game since he was last a Knick.

We probably marginally overpaid, but RFAs are the most likely FAs to earn a few more bucks to keep the original team from matching.

He's kinda exactly what we'll need as a veteran building block, especially if Carmelo is on the way out.
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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1803 » by Jay10 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:47 pm

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bigfnjoe96 wrote:Team Young Guns needs a Sig.... Anybody wanna hook us up????


THJ is a true Gunner


:nod:

Not even Derrick Rose could've stopped him from getting his if he was on the roster last season.
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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1804 » by El Poochio » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:48 pm

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god shammgod wrote:we were so close. we were so close to not doing anything stupid. they must have really wanted dion and missed out so they did this.
congratulations. with this signing you won't be able to build around kp until after you pay him.

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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1805 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:48 pm

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god shammgod wrote:i think dion is actually better. that's right, i said it. pooch was right all along.

Pooch had dion waiters on his bat team and missed the playoffs!


and timmy jr won someone the championship ? i wouldn't sign neither. but if i had to choose one, give me the one with balls.

can't remember where Timmy went but fair enough i guess
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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1806 » by mwm78 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:48 pm

Mills was the money man when Phil was here, right... so in his first move as acing GM he does this, signs a marginal player who played like 30 games well this past season after struggling in the first half, who was sent to the D league (now G league) by ATL and who they previously traded for Grant and than they sign him to this type of deal that everyone seems to be mind boggled by, Dolan should fire Mills on the spot, this deal makes no sense, I mean I would be curious what those in ATL are saying, do they think about matching at all or just say no thanks let them have him...
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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1807 » by god shammgod » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:49 pm

Jay10 wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
bigfnjoe96 wrote:Team Young Guns needs a Sig.... Anybody wanna hook us up????


THJ is a true Gunner


:nod:

Not even Derrick Rose could've stopped him from getting his if he was on the roster last season.

these guys are right. kp just became the second option. 3rd if melo is here.
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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1808 » by Jimmit79 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:50 pm

Should the knicks try to get harkless or kcp now?

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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1809 » by BodyCount » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:50 pm

moocow007 wrote:To be a little fair to Hardaway Jr, he did have a very strong season last year and BY FAR (not even close) his best year thus far.

....(so more simpleton than full (Please Use More Appropriate Word) defensively).


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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1810 » by stopstandthere » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:50 pm

Look at the bright side, thj has great upside. :wink:
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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1811 » by NYF13 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:50 pm

rajajackal wrote:i for one am intrigued by a ntilikina/hardaway backcourt


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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1812 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:51 pm

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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1813 » by IllmaticHandler » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:51 pm

Our Backcourt will can be light outs out from a shooting stand point. Frank and THJ.
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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1814 » by NYKHardKnock » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:51 pm

Over it. Just please get rid of Melo and Lee. It could be a nice rebuild.. let's say we end up with the #1 pick and take Porter. You then trade Willy for a legit PG or a lottery pick and roll out..

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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1815 » by F N 11 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:51 pm

Looking at highlights Timmy is playing with wayyyyy more confidence. I mean A lot more. Dude is straight gunning off those curls. Straight attacking the basket.
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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1816 » by NOOB77 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:51 pm

god shammgod wrote:are we signing grant back next year ?



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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1817 » by NOOB77 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:52 pm

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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1818 » by Kurt Rambis » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:52 pm

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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1819 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:52 pm

From Lowe's article on why cap flexibility will be increasingly important. Looking at last season as a precedent is just ignorant.

Winner: Teams with cap room next summer
Winner: The 2016 free agency class
Loser: Most other players

Last summer, almost the entire league had an easy route to $20 million-plus in cap room. Next summer, we could enter free agency with only three or four teams hoarding that much space. Last summer's spending orgy, amid a one-time-only mega-spike in the cap, soaked up more of this season's space than anyone expected -- especially when the league's projected cap fell from $107 million a year ago, to $101 million, and then finally to $99 million. (The league's most recent projection for the 2018-19 season, sent to teams last week, sits at $102 million, per league sources -- a tiny uptick.)

Imagine being Patrick Patterson. You watch your bench partner, Bismack Biyombo, an inferior player, sign for $17 million per season last summer to be a backup. You smile, knowing your payday is coming. Then free agency starts, the limited cap room dries up, and you sign for less than $17 million combined over three seasons.

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Which players are on the move this summer? We have a rundown of the latest trades throughout the league.
The failure of the union and league to agree on a cap-smoothing proposal benefited one group of free agents -- last summer's class -- at the expense of almost everyone else. We are now back in the old, forgotten cap environment, where room is sparse. Even teams that look cheap now -- the Hawks, Kazoos (after their ludicrous Tim Hardaway Jr. offer sheet), Kings, Mavs, and Magic (with potential extensions for Elfrid Payton and Aaron Gordon) -- could spend themselves out of max cap space for next summer's derby over the next days and months. (The Hawks were willing to offer Hardaway a four-year deal in the $48 million range, league sources said. The Knicks blew that out of the water with a four-year, $71 million monstrosity.)

Player options for 2018-19 that looked sure to be rejected are more tempting now for a heap of guys: Austin Rivers, Kosta Koufos, Wesley Matthews, Garrett Temple, and many more. A rash of opt-ins would put more teams up against it.

The consequences ripple in every direction. Almost a dozen quality restricted free agents sit untouched, their reps crossing their fingers that Atlanta, Indiana or Brooklyn -- once the Wizards match on Otto Porter -- comes calling. Members of the 2014 draft class, up for extensions now, face a barren landscape if they chance it in free agency next summer. Do they settle for extensions below their now-outdated expectations? Do their teams play hard ball, daring them to gamble in a year? How did that work out for Utah and Hayward?

The Celtics are eyeing all of this, confident they can retain Thomas on a deal well below his max.

The disappearance of cap room should empower the few who will have it. Most of those teams are bad, with Utah, San Antonio and even Houston (if the Chris Paul experiment fails) lurking as exceptions. Stars don't go to bad teams unless they can join up -- a rare double the Lakers clearly believe they have in the bag. Will everyone else blow room now on extensions and salary dumps -- as the Hawks just did by effectively paying $17 million in Jamal Crawford salary for a bad first-round pick and Diamond Stone?

Meet the new NBA, same as the old NBA.

Teams will have to get more creative, and perhaps take on more risk, in swaps of players making big money over multiple years. Internal development matters more than ever; teams can go over the cap to re-sign their own players, and for most of the league, that will be the most accessible path to improvement. Expiring contracts will regain some of the trade value they lost.
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Re: Knicks sign Hardaway 

Post#1820 » by stopstandthere » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:52 pm

Jimmit79 wrote:Should the knicks try to get harkless or kcp now?

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Harkless? Wow he is so-called the next PG13.

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