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College/Draft Thread Part 5 - NCAA Tournament Edition - Knicks #1 Baby!!!

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Post#1801 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:19 pm

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blueNorange wrote:actually it's more unrealistic as a knick, because on another team we never saw him everyday and only when he'd do something highlight reel worthy.

as a knick we see dsj as a player that doesn't want to orchestrate first, score second. he doesn't take criticism well at all(got upset for knicks calling him out of shape), and doesn't have a jump shot and probably won't because in addition to a hitch he also has bad mechanics all around.

and now the cherry on top is he has a bad back.

dsj is damaged goods, and isn't really all that good other than a rim rocking dunk that at the end of the day is only 2 points.

Then put your money where your mouth is and make a bet. Kyrie and Garland will not be on the knicks roster together next season.

put my money where my mouth is? wtf are you talking about, i want zion then culver then barrett. :lol:

i'm just saying if the knicks draft garland, they're going to keep him and not trade him. because you can have both, it's not one or other no matter how pathetically you're trying making to make it be.

Then wtf did you quote me for? Dont quote me with garbage if you not gonna make the bet. You think I give a f*ck about all that irrelevant nonsense you just wrote? Another post full of wasted key strokes. Shame.
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Post#1802 » by Capn'O » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:21 pm

Melo, your bet doesn't even make any sense at this point. Maybe if we dropped to 5 or better yet if we were to pick Garland AND sign Kyrie we could still trade him... but otherwise nobody's banking that the Knicks take him 1-4.
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Post#1803 » by Knicksfan1992 » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:21 pm

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Knicksfan1992 wrote:Dennis Smith doesn't have bad shooting mechanics..... The hitch only really shows itself on the free throws. He's a good spot up shooter bad off the dribble. He has a balance issue more than an actual shooting mechanic issue.

stop.

his lower base is never squared.

he also tends to lean forward, he's never balanced when he shoots.


So you agree that it's a balance issue and not an actual shooting mechanics issue like I said?
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Post#1804 » by god shammgod » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:29 pm

Capn'O wrote:Melo, your bet doesn't even make any sense at this point. Maybe if we dropped to 5 or better yet if we were to pick Garland AND sign Kyrie we could still trade him... but otherwise nobody's banking that the Knicks take him 1-4.


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Post#1805 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:37 pm

Capn'O wrote:Melo, your bet doesn't even make any sense at this point. Maybe if we dropped to 5 but otherwise, nobody's banking that the Knicks take him 1-4.

People is talking about the Kyrie and Garland back court thing like it’s a possibility. It’s not happening. I don’t get the point of arguing hard about something that has a very slim chance of becoming reality. I find it pointless. That’s why I said I’ll make a sig bet that it’s not happening to end these pointless arguments. Yet they quoting me with dumb rebuttals that has nothing to do with what I said instead of making the bet.

If y’all like wasting time arguing about pipe dreams then do you. I’m not into that
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Post#1806 » by blueNorange » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:44 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Then put your money where your mouth is and make a bet. Kyrie and Garland will not be on the knicks roster together next season.

put my money where my mouth is? wtf are you talking about, i want zion then culver then barrett. :lol:

i'm just saying if the knicks draft garland, they're going to keep him and not trade him. because you can have both, it's not one or other no matter how pathetically you're trying making to make it be.

Then wtf did you quote me for? Dont quote me with garbage if you not gonna make the bet. You think I give a f*ck about all that irrelevant nonsense you just wrote? Another post full of wasted key strokes. Shame.

you're the only one here b'ing about the knicks drafting garland and creating a fake scenario that if they do draft him, it's either him or kyrie.

all of this "wasted" keystrokes you talk of is 100% you freaking out over people not agreeing with your assessment on garland.
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Post#1807 » by Capn'O » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:45 pm

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Capn'O wrote:Melo, your bet doesn't even make any sense at this point. Maybe if we dropped to 5 but otherwise, nobody's banking that the Knicks take him 1-4.

People is talking about the Kyrie and Garland back court thing like it’s a possibility. It’s not happening. I don’t get the point of arguing hard about something that has a very slim chance of becoming reality. I find it pointless. That’s why I said I’ll make a sig bet that it’s not happening to end these pointless arguments. Yet they quoting me with dumb rebuttals that has nothing to do with what I said instead of making the bet.

If y’all like wasting time arguing about pipe dreams then do you. I’m not into that


People are mostly talking about Garland in the "what if we fell to 5?" Scenario. A couple suggest him as high as 2, but that's with a heavy caveat that he blows away the next phases of evaluation. Nobody's going to take your bet because at this point there are such limited situations where he's considered to begin with and we don't know where we're picking. In the same way that nobody would bet that we ARE getting Zion. EVERY situation has a very low outcome probability at this point.
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Post#1808 » by blueNorange » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:46 pm

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Knicksfan1992 wrote:Dennis Smith doesn't have bad shooting mechanics..... The hitch only really shows itself on the free throws. He's a good spot up shooter bad off the dribble. He has a balance issue more than an actual shooting mechanic issue.

stop.

his lower base is never squared.

he also tends to lean forward, he's never balanced when he shoots.


So you agree that it's a balance issue and not an actual shooting mechanics issue like I said?

it's both the hitch and him not being balanced.

did you see that video of him shooting free throws with allan houston? did you not cringe at that release?
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Post#1809 » by god shammgod » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:46 pm

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Capn'O wrote:Melo, your bet doesn't even make any sense at this point. Maybe if we dropped to 5 but otherwise, nobody's banking that the Knicks take him 1-4.

People is talking about the Kyrie and Garland back court thing like it’s a possibility. It’s not happening. I don’t get the point of arguing hard about something that has a very slim chance of becoming reality. I find it pointless. That’s why I said I’ll make a sig bet that it’s not happening to end these pointless arguments. Yet they quoting me with dumb rebuttals that has nothing to do with what I said instead of making the bet.

If y’all like wasting time arguing about pipe dreams then do you. I’m not into that


nobody actually said that. they talked about him coming off the bench at first.
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Post#1810 » by Capn'O » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:46 pm

Smith has bad physical and mental habits. It's not a gambit I would have taken but there is a chance he gets it right.
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Post#1811 » by blueNorange » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:49 pm

Capn'O wrote:Smith has bad physical and mental habits. It's not a gambit I would have taken but there is a chance he gets it right.

he's stubborn so i doubt it'll ever happen.
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Post#1812 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:55 pm

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blueNorange wrote:put my money where my mouth is? wtf are you talking about, i want zion then culver then barrett. :lol:

i'm just saying if the knicks draft garland, they're going to keep him and not trade him. because you can have both, it's not one or other no matter how pathetically you're trying making to make it be.

Then wtf did you quote me for? Dont quote me with garbage if you not gonna make the bet. You think I give a f*ck about all that irrelevant nonsense you just wrote? Another post full of wasted key strokes. Shame.

you're the only one here b'ing about the knicks drafting garland and creating a fake scenario that if they do draft him, it's either him or kyrie.

all of this "wasted" keystrokes you talk of is 100% you freaking out over people not agreeing with your assessment on garland.

How am I freaking out when YOU are the guys quoting me? :lol: Y’all the ones mad. I’m good over here.

You seriously make no sense. Go stick to predicting who’s gonna be a bust because that’s worked out for you so well. Oh wait..

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Post#1813 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Apr 5, 2019 8:00 pm

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Capn'O wrote:Melo, your bet doesn't even make any sense at this point. Maybe if we dropped to 5 but otherwise, nobody's banking that the Knicks take him 1-4.

People is talking about the Kyrie and Garland back court thing like it’s a possibility. It’s not happening. I don’t get the point of arguing hard about something that has a very slim chance of becoming reality. I find it pointless. That’s why I said I’ll make a sig bet that it’s not happening to end these pointless arguments. Yet they quoting me with dumb rebuttals that has nothing to do with what I said instead of making the bet.

If y’all like wasting time arguing about pipe dreams then do you. I’m not into that


nobody actually said that. they talked about him coming off the bench at first.

Go look back because there was a discussion about a Kyrie and Garland back court. And Garland coming off the bench for Kyrie is still just as unlikely as the Kyrie/Garland back court.
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Post#1814 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Apr 5, 2019 8:10 pm

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Capn'O wrote:Melo, your bet doesn't even make any sense at this point. Maybe if we dropped to 5 but otherwise, nobody's banking that the Knicks take him 1-4.

People is talking about the Kyrie and Garland back court thing like it’s a possibility. It’s not happening. I don’t get the point of arguing hard about something that has a very slim chance of becoming reality. I find it pointless. That’s why I said I’ll make a sig bet that it’s not happening to end these pointless arguments. Yet they quoting me with dumb rebuttals that has nothing to do with what I said instead of making the bet.

If y’all like wasting time arguing about pipe dreams then do you. I’m not into that


People are mostly talking about Garland in the "what if we fell to 5?" Scenario. A couple suggest him as high as 2, but that's with a heavy caveat that he blows away the next phases of evaluation. Nobody's going to take your bet because at this point there are such limited situations where he's considered to begin with and we don't know where we're picking. In the same way that nobody would bet that we ARE getting Zion. EVERY situation has a very low outcome probability at this point.

The Knicks drafting Garland is more unrealistic than Zion. It’s like when dudes was hyping up Clarke as a top 5 pick or top 3 whatever it was. I just don’t get the point of making a bunch of arguments for it like there’s a chance of it happening.

Again, y’all ready to shut down any talk of DSJ being the future PG but argue about stuff like this is more realistic. I don’t get it. I’m just gonna leave it as that.
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Post#1815 » by Capn'O » Fri Apr 5, 2019 8:20 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:People is talking about the Kyrie and Garland back court thing like it’s a possibility. It’s not happening. I don’t get the point of arguing hard about something that has a very slim chance of becoming reality. I find it pointless. That’s why I said I’ll make a sig bet that it’s not happening to end these pointless arguments. Yet they quoting me with dumb rebuttals that has nothing to do with what I said instead of making the bet.

If y’all like wasting time arguing about pipe dreams then do you. I’m not into that


People are mostly talking about Garland in the "what if we fell to 5?" Scenario. A couple suggest him as high as 2, but that's with a heavy caveat that he blows away the next phases of evaluation. Nobody's going to take your bet because at this point there are such limited situations where he's considered to begin with and we don't know where we're picking. In the same way that nobody would bet that we ARE getting Zion. EVERY situation has a very low outcome probability at this point.

The Knicks drafting Garland is more unrealistic than Zion. It’s like when dudes was hyping up Clarke as a top 5 pick or top 3 whatever it was. I just don’t get the point of making a bunch of arguments for it like there’s a chance of it happening.

Again, y’all ready to shut down any talk of DSJ being the future PG but argue about stuff like this is more realistic. I don’t get it. I’m just gonna leave it as that.


There's a 48% chance we get pick 5. That's pretty massive and a lot of guys are in play there. Maybe 10 guys could be argued for that spot.
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Post#1816 » by Tron Carter » Fri Apr 5, 2019 8:22 pm

someone can’t do basic math :lol:
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Post#1817 » by HEZI » Fri Apr 5, 2019 8:24 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:People is talking about the Kyrie and Garland back court thing like it’s a possibility. It’s not happening. I don’t get the point of arguing hard about something that has a very slim chance of becoming reality. I find it pointless. That’s why I said I’ll make a sig bet that it’s not happening to end these pointless arguments. Yet they quoting me with dumb rebuttals that has nothing to do with what I said instead of making the bet.

If y’all like wasting time arguing about pipe dreams then do you. I’m not into that


People are mostly talking about Garland in the "what if we fell to 5?" Scenario. A couple suggest him as high as 2, but that's with a heavy caveat that he blows away the next phases of evaluation. Nobody's going to take your bet because at this point there are such limited situations where he's considered to begin with and we don't know where we're picking. In the same way that nobody would bet that we ARE getting Zion. EVERY situation has a very low outcome probability at this point.

The Knicks drafting Garland is more unrealistic than Zion. It’s like when dudes was hyping up Clarke as a top 5 pick or top 3 whatever it was. I just don’t get the point of making a bunch of arguments for it like there’s a chance of it happening.

Again, y’all ready to shut down any talk of DSJ being the future PG but argue about stuff like this is more realistic. I don’t get it. I’m just gonna leave it as that.


My dude, this is a college thread, we talk about college players all the time. You wasted key strokes talking about Ayton and Bagley and Doncic and Trae even after the lotto and knowing damn well the Knicks weren't gonna be in position to draft them. Don't act like people can't discuss college ball on here and talk about prospects without it having a direct link to the Knicks. You flooded us with Troy Brown pics on here last year, acting like he was the next coming or something, talk about unrealistic.
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Post#1818 » by Tron Carter » Fri Apr 5, 2019 8:32 pm

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People are mostly talking about Garland in the "what if we fell to 5?" Scenario. A couple suggest him as high as 2, but that's with a heavy caveat that he blows away the next phases of evaluation. Nobody's going to take your bet because at this point there are such limited situations where he's considered to begin with and we don't know where we're picking. In the same way that nobody would bet that we ARE getting Zion. EVERY situation has a very low outcome probability at this point.

The Knicks drafting Garland is more unrealistic than Zion. It’s like when dudes was hyping up Clarke as a top 5 pick or top 3 whatever it was. I just don’t get the point of making a bunch of arguments for it like there’s a chance of it happening.

Again, y’all ready to shut down any talk of DSJ being the future PG but argue about stuff like this is more realistic. I don’t get it. I’m just gonna leave it as that.


My dude, this is a college thread, we talk about college players all the time. You wasted key strokes talking about Ayton and Bagley and Doncic and Trae even after the lotto and knowing damn well the Knicks weren't gonna be in position to draft them. Don't act like people can't discuss college ball on here and talk about prospects without it having a direct link to the Knicks. You flooded us with Troy Brown pics on here last year, acting like he was the next coming or something, talk about unrealistic.


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Post#1819 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Apr 5, 2019 8:36 pm

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People are mostly talking about Garland in the "what if we fell to 5?" Scenario. A couple suggest him as high as 2, but that's with a heavy caveat that he blows away the next phases of evaluation. Nobody's going to take your bet because at this point there are such limited situations where he's considered to begin with and we don't know where we're picking. In the same way that nobody would bet that we ARE getting Zion. EVERY situation has a very low outcome probability at this point.

The Knicks drafting Garland is more unrealistic than Zion. It’s like when dudes was hyping up Clarke as a top 5 pick or top 3 whatever it was. I just don’t get the point of making a bunch of arguments for it like there’s a chance of it happening.

Again, y’all ready to shut down any talk of DSJ being the future PG but argue about stuff like this is more realistic. I don’t get it. I’m just gonna leave it as that.


There's a 48% chance we get pick 5. That's pretty massive and a lot of guys are in play there. Maybe 10 guys could be argued for that spot.

I don’t see the Knicks taking Garland at #5 when he is being mocked in a lower range. Or keeping him if Kyrie is coming either. That’s all I said.

The only PG I possibly see the Knicks taking is Ja because of his similarities with Fox and how Perry likes those type of pg’s. He even said just said how they are going to draft similar players to what they drafted last year. Knox, Mitch, Trier are all athletic and Garland does not fit that bill. And even with all of that, I think it is still a low chance Ja is a Knick because of the whole Kyrie thing and I am not sure the Knicks are going to give up on DSJ so early. That is why I haven’t pushed the Ja to Knicks idea but i am open to it
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Post#1820 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Apr 5, 2019 8:45 pm

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People are mostly talking about Garland in the "what if we fell to 5?" Scenario. A couple suggest him as high as 2, but that's with a heavy caveat that he blows away the next phases of evaluation. Nobody's going to take your bet because at this point there are such limited situations where he's considered to begin with and we don't know where we're picking. In the same way that nobody would bet that we ARE getting Zion. EVERY situation has a very low outcome probability at this point.

The Knicks drafting Garland is more unrealistic than Zion. It’s like when dudes was hyping up Clarke as a top 5 pick or top 3 whatever it was. I just don’t get the point of making a bunch of arguments for it like there’s a chance of it happening.

Again, y’all ready to shut down any talk of DSJ being the future PG but argue about stuff like this is more realistic. I don’t get it. I’m just gonna leave it as that.


My dude, this is a college thread, we talk about college players all the time. You wasted key strokes talking about Ayton and Bagley and Doncic and Trae even after the lotto and knowing damn well the Knicks weren't gonna be in position to draft them. Don't act like people can't discuss college ball on here and talk about prospects without it having a direct link to the Knicks. You flooded us with Troy Brown pics on here last year, acting like he was the next coming or something, talk about unrealistic.

You can’t be serious. Literally all these arguments are about Garland being a KNICK. If you guys were talking about him in general then this wouldn’t even be a convo right now.

Did I talk about Ayton bagley Doncic being Knicks after the lottery? No.

Did I talk about Troy Brown being a Knick in April of last year? No.

I wasn’t saying no delusional schit. I talked about Sexton, Miles, Mikal, Knox bring potential Knicks because of where we were projected to pick.


Look y’all the ones mad cause I said Garland isn’t gonna be a Knick. Especially if Kyrie is coming. So idgaf at the end of the day
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