2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

[thebuzzardman]

New York in - Olynyk, Dunn
Utah in - Fournier, Sims, Utah Second Round Pick

Olynyk would add some scoring to the bench while spacing the floor and he is an excellent passer. He is averaging 5 assists in 22 minutes this year. I think we have enough good defenders to mask some of his limitations as a rim protector. Personally I think we should swap Grimes back into the starting lineup and bring DDV back to the bench. I think Grimes would perform better this time with more ball movement, more touches and more shots available. He would also benefit from not being asked to guard the toughest perimeter matchup this time no matter the size. DDV would provide a more experienced on ball player in comparison to Grimes and McBride. I also think DDV and Olynyk would be a great pairing offensively off the bench. Olynyk is excellent at hitting the cutter and he could help facilitate the offense. Olynyk would also reduce Precious' role allowing him to be used more situationally for defensive purposes.

Dunn would provide extra guard depth as a more experienced ball handler with good point of attack defense. He has posted solid shooting numbers over the last couple seasons in Utah and most importantly he would be someone that would probably be more content in the limited role available behind Brunson than some of the other names mentioned. We would not be forced back into a situation where we are struggling to find minutes and touches for a bunch of small guards that are used to playing 25-30+ minutes a game. Unfortunately he seems to have been moved into the starting line-up although it is in a limited role but Ainge may use that as a reason to raise his price.

It's not a sexy trade but I do believe it would improve our bench without costing much or committing long term to questionable fits. A top 8 of Brunson,Grimes, OG, Randle, iHart, DDV, Hart, and Olynyk with Dunn, McBride and Precious as your end of rotation guys is fine imo. The roster could be re-evaluated in the offseason and they can attempt to fill in whatever holes they see and they would still have maintained all of their draft capital for a bigger piece if necessary.

Olynyk will cost a 1st round pick, if even available

[thebuzzardman]

Deuce and a SRP to the Bulls for Drummond is next.

Hard pass. Deuce would be a better rim protector than Drummond.

I should have clarified. I heard this on KnicksFanTV from CP and Alex.

And after iHart’s game yesterday I probably shouldn’t have even posted it.

Getting Drummond for cheap is just to back up iShart for rest of this year. Would have to be low cost, if no better options available

[8516knicks]

New York in - Olynyk, Dunn
Utah in - Fournier, Sims, Utah Second Round Pick

Olynyk would add some scoring to the bench while spacing the floor and he is an excellent passer. He is averaging 5 assists in 22 minutes this year. I think we have enough good defenders to mask some of his limitations as a rim protector. Personally I think we should swap Grimes back into the starting lineup and bring DDV back to the bench. I think Grimes would perform better this time with more ball movement, more touches and more shots available. He would also benefit from not being asked to guard the toughest perimeter matchup this time no matter the size. DDV would provide a more experienced on ball player in comparison to Grimes and McBride. I also think DDV and Olynyk would be a great pairing offensively off the bench. Olynyk is excellent at hitting the cutter and he could help facilitate the offense. Olynyk would also reduce Precious' role allowing him to be used more situationally for defensive purposes.

Dunn would provide extra guard depth as a more experienced ball handler with good point of attack defense. He has posted solid shooting numbers over the last couple seasons in Utah and most importantly he would be someone that would probably be more content in the limited role available behind Brunson than some of the other names mentioned. We would not be forced back into a situation where we are struggling to find minutes and touches for a bunch of small guards that are used to playing 25-30+ minutes a game. Unfortunately he seems to have been moved into the starting line-up although it is in a limited role but Ainge may use that as a reason to raise his price.

It's not a sexy trade but I do believe it would improve our bench without costing much or committing long term to questionable fits. A top 8 of Brunson,Grimes, OG, Randle, iHart, DDV, Hart, and Olynyk with Dunn, McBride and Precious as your end of rotation guys is fine imo. The roster could be re-evaluated in the offseason and they can attempt to fill in whatever holes they see and they would still have maintained all of their draft capital for a bigger piece if necessary.

Dunn's problem was always on O. If he's shooting decently it would seem a doable good trade but as Buzz says Olynk would cost one of our two ? FRP this year. So it also depends on who we foresee might be draftable by us. Or who we could use those picks for in some other trade instead.

[Signature NYK]

Grimes
Fournier
Mavs 1st
Obi TPE

for

Colin Sexton
Kelly O

Jazz seemed to like Grimes last year and currently have no 2024 1sts

We get the IQ replacement/ball handler of the bench spark and add a big who can stretch the floor a bit. Sexton has been lauded as a good defender in the past. He's not as good nor does he have the potential of IQ imo but Thibs would like his mentality on defense.

Brunson/Sexton
Donte/Sexton
OG/Hart
Randle/OG/Precious
Hartenstein/Kelly O


I think this team can make an ECF run if things go right then look to Go big game hunting again next season with the remaining picks and swaps plus Sexton or Randle + Mitch to secure the true Star.

Wishful thinking maybe but hey

You don’t trade with the Jazz without going after Markkanen imo

Can we realistically get him tho? lol

[JayTWill]

New York in - Olynyk, Dunn
Utah in - Fournier, Sims, Utah Second Round Pick

Olynyk would add some scoring to the bench while spacing the floor and he is an excellent passer. He is averaging 5 assists in 22 minutes this year. I think we have enough good defenders to mask some of his limitations as a rim protector. Personally I think we should swap Grimes back into the starting lineup and bring DDV back to the bench. I think Grimes would perform better this time with more ball movement, more touches and more shots available. He would also benefit from not being asked to guard the toughest perimeter matchup this time no matter the size. DDV would provide a more experienced on ball player in comparison to Grimes and McBride. I also think DDV and Olynyk would be a great pairing offensively off the bench. Olynyk is excellent at hitting the cutter and he could help facilitate the offense. Olynyk would also reduce Precious' role allowing him to be used more situationally for defensive purposes.

Dunn would provide extra guard depth as a more experienced ball handler with good point of attack defense. He has posted solid shooting numbers over the last couple seasons in Utah and most importantly he would be someone that would probably be more content in the limited role available behind Brunson than some of the other names mentioned. We would not be forced back into a situation where we are struggling to find minutes and touches for a bunch of small guards that are used to playing 25-30+ minutes a game. Unfortunately he seems to have been moved into the starting line-up although it is in a limited role but Ainge may use that as a reason to raise his price.

It's not a sexy trade but I do believe it would improve our bench without costing much or committing long term to questionable fits. A top 8 of Brunson,Grimes, OG, Randle, iHart, DDV, Hart, and Olynyk with Dunn, McBride and Precious as your end of rotation guys is fine imo. The roster could be re-evaluated in the offseason and they can attempt to fill in whatever holes they see and they would still have maintained all of their draft capital for a bigger piece if necessary.

Olynyk will cost a 1st round pick, if even available

I might be willing to give up the Wizards Protected pick since I don't expect it to ever convey as more than 2 second round picks.

[KnixinSix]

Based on the rumors it certainly feels like Murray is our top trade target at the moment. News will likely heat up again shortly as he is eligible to be traded Jan 5 (Friday). If the rumors are accurate sounds like us and Lakers. Wonder if that meeting between Rose and Rich Paul (Klutch) happens before then.

[HarthorneWingo]

Hard pass. Deuce would be a better rim protector than Drummond.

I should have clarified. I heard this on KnicksFanTV from CP and Alex.

And after iHart’s game yesterday I probably shouldn’t have even posted it.

Getting Drummond for cheap is just to back up iShart for rest of this year. Would have to be low cost, if no better options available

How about Ron Carnaval?

[HarthorneWingo]

New York in - Olynyk, Dunn
Utah in - Fournier, Sims, Utah Second Round Pick

Olynyk would add some scoring to the bench while spacing the floor and he is an excellent passer. He is averaging 5 assists in 22 minutes this year. I think we have enough good defenders to mask some of his limitations as a rim protector. Personally I think we should swap Grimes back into the starting lineup and bring DDV back to the bench. I think Grimes would perform better this time with more ball movement, more touches and more shots available. He would also benefit from not being asked to guard the toughest perimeter matchup this time no matter the size. DDV would provide a more experienced on ball player in comparison to Grimes and McBride. I also think DDV and Olynyk would be a great pairing offensively off the bench. Olynyk is excellent at hitting the cutter and he could help facilitate the offense. Olynyk would also reduce Precious' role allowing him to be used more situationally for defensive purposes.

Dunn would provide extra guard depth as a more experienced ball handler with good point of attack defense. He has posted solid shooting numbers over the last couple seasons in Utah and most importantly he would be someone that would probably be more content in the limited role available behind Brunson than some of the other names mentioned. We would not be forced back into a situation where we are struggling to find minutes and touches for a bunch of small guards that are used to playing 25-30+ minutes a game. Unfortunately he seems to have been moved into the starting line-up although it is in a limited role but Ainge may use that as a reason to raise his price.

It's not a sexy trade but I do believe it would improve our bench without costing much or committing long term to questionable fits. A top 8 of Brunson,Grimes, OG, Randle, iHart, DDV, Hart, and Olynyk with Dunn, McBride and Precious as your end of rotation guys is fine imo. The roster could be re-evaluated in the offseason and they can attempt to fill in whatever holes they see and they would still have maintained all of their draft capital for a bigger piece if necessary.

Olynyk will cost a 1st round pick, if even available

I might be willing to give up the Wizards Protected pick since I don't expect it to ever convey as more than 2 second round picks.

The Celtics are "monitoring" Olynik. If we can get him, we also keep him away from them.

[Signature NYK]

Grimes
Fournier
Mavs 1st
Obi TPE

for

Colin Sexton
Kelly O

Jazz seemed to like Grimes last year and currently have no 2024 1sts

We get the IQ replacement/ball handler of the bench spark and add a big who can stretch the floor a bit. Sexton has been lauded as a good defender in the past. He's not as good nor does he have the potential of IQ imo but Thibs would like his mentality on defense.

Brunson/Sexton
Donte/Sexton
OG/Hart
Randle/OG/Precious
Hartenstein/Kelly O


I think this team can make an ECF run if things go right then look to Go big game hunting again next season with the remaining picks and swaps plus Sexton or Randle + Mitch to secure the true Star.

Wishful thinking maybe but hey

This is… pretty nice. Either that or a play for Brogdon makes sense. Olynyk and Sexton would make our bench devastating. Ainge is probably going to help Boston over us by sending them Olynyk.

This is really really nice. Ainge is gonna want more though and yes, he will help Boston over us all day every day and twice on Sunday. That would be a pretty tough team to beat though.

Hmm idk if I'd be willing to give them more than that... maybe a HEAVILY protected 1sts that in all likely hood turns into 2 seconds or sumn. Really banking on Ainge liking Grimes and them not having a pick this year. They can probably get more than this but from who?

We had the thought process that OG couldn't happen due to the Raptors lawsuit but that happened lol

[spree2kawhi]

New York in - Olynyk, Dunn
Utah in - Fournier, Sims, Utah Second Round Pick

Olynyk would add some scoring to the bench while spacing the floor and he is an excellent passer. He is averaging 5 assists in 22 minutes this year. I think we have enough good defenders to mask some of his limitations as a rim protector. Personally I think we should swap Grimes back into the starting lineup and bring DDV back to the bench. I think Grimes would perform better this time with more ball movement, more touches and more shots available. He would also benefit from not being asked to guard the toughest perimeter matchup this time no matter the size. DDV would provide a more experienced on ball player in comparison to Grimes and McBride. I also think DDV and Olynyk would be a great pairing offensively off the bench. Olynyk is excellent at hitting the cutter and he could help facilitate the offense. Olynyk would also reduce Precious' role allowing him to be used more situationally for defensive purposes.

Dunn would provide extra guard depth as a more experienced ball handler with good point of attack defense. He has posted solid shooting numbers over the last couple seasons in Utah and most importantly he would be someone that would probably be more content in the limited role available behind Brunson than some of the other names mentioned. We would not be forced back into a situation where we are struggling to find minutes and touches for a bunch of small guards that are used to playing 25-30+ minutes a game. Unfortunately he seems to have been moved into the starting line-up although it is in a limited role but Ainge may use that as a reason to raise his price.

It's not a sexy trade but I do believe it would improve our bench without costing much or committing long term to questionable fits. A top 8 of Brunson,Grimes, OG, Randle, iHart, DDV, Hart, and Olynyk with Dunn, McBride and Precious as your end of rotation guys is fine imo. The roster could be re-evaluated in the offseason and they can attempt to fill in whatever holes they see and they would still have maintained all of their draft capital for a bigger piece if necessary.

Olynyk will cost a 1st round pick, if even available

I might be willing to give up the Wizards Protected pick since I don't expect it to ever convey as more than 2 second round picks.

It’s not worth it though. We need to raise our ceiling before adding the complementary pieces like Olynyk and Brogdon.

[JayTWill]

New York in - Olynyk, Dunn
Utah in - Fournier, Sims, Utah Second Round Pick

Olynyk would add some scoring to the bench while spacing the floor and he is an excellent passer. He is averaging 5 assists in 22 minutes this year. I think we have enough good defenders to mask some of his limitations as a rim protector. Personally I think we should swap Grimes back into the starting lineup and bring DDV back to the bench. I think Grimes would perform better this time with more ball movement, more touches and more shots available. He would also benefit from not being asked to guard the toughest perimeter matchup this time no matter the size. DDV would provide a more experienced on ball player in comparison to Grimes and McBride. I also think DDV and Olynyk would be a great pairing offensively off the bench. Olynyk is excellent at hitting the cutter and he could help facilitate the offense. Olynyk would also reduce Precious' role allowing him to be used more situationally for defensive purposes.

Dunn would provide extra guard depth as a more experienced ball handler with good point of attack defense. He has posted solid shooting numbers over the last couple seasons in Utah and most importantly he would be someone that would probably be more content in the limited role available behind Brunson than some of the other names mentioned. We would not be forced back into a situation where we are struggling to find minutes and touches for a bunch of small guards that are used to playing 25-30+ minutes a game. Unfortunately he seems to have been moved into the starting line-up although it is in a limited role but Ainge may use that as a reason to raise his price.

It's not a sexy trade but I do believe it would improve our bench without costing much or committing long term to questionable fits. A top 8 of Brunson,Grimes, OG, Randle, iHart, DDV, Hart, and Olynyk with Dunn, McBride and Precious as your end of rotation guys is fine imo. The roster could be re-evaluated in the offseason and they can attempt to fill in whatever holes they see and they would still have maintained all of their draft capital for a bigger piece if necessary.

Dunn's problem was always on O. If he's shooting decently it would seem a doable good trade but as Buzz says Olynk would cost one of our two ? FRP this year. So it also depends on who we foresee might be draftable by us. Or who we could use those picks for in some other trade instead.

I'm honestly not worried about Dunn's offense. I feel like Olynyk in a poor man's Jokic role along with our other guards is enough to carry the bench unit offensively. Dunn would just be a nice addition in a limited role if necessary so we don't have to depend on McBride being ready in the playoffs. I'm also not a fan of adding guys like Clarkson or Sexton as they are terrible fits next to Brunson and i'm not sure how effective they would be in a smaller role with less shots and touches. Clarkson has terrible shooting efficiency. I like Sexton's aggression but he reminds me of RJ in some ways with his tunnel vision and questionable shot selection. I wouldn't want to add those types of players back to this roster.

[JayTWill]

Olynyk will cost a 1st round pick, if even available

I might be willing to give up the Wizards Protected pick since I don't expect it to ever convey as more than 2 second round picks.

It’s not worth it though. We need to raise our ceiling before adding the complementary pieces like Olynyk and Brogdon.

I'm not sure how that trade would impact our ability to raise our ceiling as I don't think that pick would impact if a trade would happen or not.

[ezmoney707]

This team needs either someone who can create offense for themselves or create offense for others off the bench. Don’t think you can go into playoffs without either of those. I like Olynyk but if you’re not getting back Sexton or Clarkson I think that second unit is gonna run into the same issues as last year. Yes you can theoretically run the offense through Olynyk, but don’t think that should be a primary objective of his role off the bench in a playoff situation.

Tyus Jones doesn’t seem like a bad option if you’re looking for playmaking. He’s a free agent this offseason so he’d be a short term option for this season only.

[JayTWill]

Personally I don't feel the need to go all in this year and commit money for multiple years for questionable fits. I don't see us as a contender this year with any of the trades available to us at the moment anyway. I'd rather just make a smaller trade so we can at least have a functional bench and a proper center rotation.

[thebuzzardman]

Based on the rumors it certainly feels like Murray is our top trade target at the moment. News will likely heat up again shortly as he is eligible to be traded Jan 5 (Friday). If the rumors are accurate sounds like us and Lakers. Wonder if that meeting between Rose and Rich Paul (Klutch) happens before then.

Lakers are odd.

They have Reaves and JLo.

Murray would seem to add the same issues JLo has, where he's good, can be that secondary on the ball creator to LeBron, or primary when Reaves not in, but JLo always seems to hurt them with bad shot selection.

If that is Murray's rep, low true % etc, isn't he just cloning JLo for them?

[spree2kawhi]

I might be willing to give up the Wizards Protected pick since I don't expect it to ever convey as more than 2 second round picks.

It’s not worth it though. We need to raise our ceiling before adding the complementary pieces like Olynyk and Brogdon.

I'm not sure how that trade would impact our ability to raise our ceiling as I don't think that pick would impact if a trade would happen or not.

I meant to say that the Knicks shouldn’t give away any more picks before a trade for that top level player or at least borderline all star has been made.

[spree2kawhi]

Based on the rumors it certainly feels like Murray is our top trade target at the moment. News will likely heat up again shortly as he is eligible to be traded Jan 5 (Friday). If the rumors are accurate sounds like us and Lakers. Wonder if that meeting between Rose and Rich Paul (Klutch) happens before then.

Lakers are odd.

They have Reaves and JLo.

Murray would seem to add the same issues JLo has, where he's good, can be that secondary on the ball creator to LeBron, or primary when Reaves not in, but JLo always seems to hurt them with bad shot selection.

If that is Murray's rep, low true % etc, isn't he just cloning JLo for them?

Maybe, if they drop out of the playoff picture with that trash roster they have, they want to trade us AD for Randle and Mitch … nah I’m kidding, don’t come at me.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Olynyk will cost a 1st round pick, if even available

I might be willing to give up the Wizards Protected pick since I don't expect it to ever convey as more than 2 second round picks.

It’s not worth it though. We need to raise our ceiling before adding the complementary pieces like Olynyk and Brogdon.

The team needs to replace IQs scoring. Can they figure it out with what we have left? It looked rough after one game. The team needs to have a productive backup 4/5 as well. Achiuwa/Taj/Sims are not the answer. We solidified our starting 5(even though we lost Mitch) but, we hurt our offense and weakened our bench. We already needed the backup 4 long before we lost Mitch. The cost of the WAS pick for Olynyk? That's a great trade. Is it possible? Who knows? This is just to solidify this seasons ceiling without costing real assets.

[thebuzzardman]

This team needs either someone who can create offense for themselves or create offense for others off the bench. Don’t think you can go into playoffs without either of those. I like Olynyk but if you’re not getting back Sexton or Clarkson I think that second unit is gonna run into the same issues as last year. Yes you can theoretically run the offense through Olynyk, but don’t think that should be a primary objective of his role off the bench in a playoff situation.

Tyus Jones doesn’t seem like a bad option if you’re looking for playmaking. He’s a free agent this offseason so he’d be a short term option for this season only.

There are several things going on.

We don't know if the FO is in "hoard all assets besides getting OG" mode. If so, they'll make ZERO deals.

Do they want to do some small low cost deals to make any playoff round better, but they really don't care - getting a back up C for the rest of the year, some "meh" vet PG... etc

Do they want a "continuous soup" deal, where they convert Fourniers contract into a somewhat useful player for the now, but really with a trade in the offseason in mind - Brogdan and/or Murrary

Do they really value Murray?

Kind of have to trust in Aller/The collective.

Brogdan\Olynyk are "do they want to try and make some noise THIS playoffs but also help moving forward BUT, the FO might view it as not worth the assets.

[Bob Ross]

I like Murray. Prefer Donovan Mitchell. No thanks on Drummond. I've seen that movie before with Enes Kanter