Thibs needs to go

[Gravy]

If it was up to the fan base Thibs would have been fired the year we had Kemba and Fournier and would never have even got this far

They wanted to fire him for not playing Frank enough minutes in the Hawks series

[The KnicksFix]

We're going to add KAT and Delon Wright to the list after they go to another team lol

I honestly think thibs ruined fourniers nba carreer. He was a near 40% 3pt shooter when we desperately needed shooting and thibs put him in the doghouse for no good reason. yea, he was a bad defender but so were most of the other players on that roster.

other than that id agree. all these playerrs pretty much have peaked and kemba was washed and old.

Fournier was putting up empty stats on bad teams most of his career. When he had to be an important piece on a playoff team here his flawed defense dragged them down.

So why is it that when the rubber meets the road, our players’ weaknesses are exploited during the playoffs, but Thibs can’t seem to do the same for opposing players. Incredible, when guys come to our team, all of a sudden “their flaws are exposed”.

[NoStatsGuy]

I see mediocrity is your forté

hast noting to do with what my forté is. Thats just the reality.

All the coaches in the playoffs coached some bad games and some amazing games. Im not even arguing most of the points yall bring up.

but we dont gain anything from the constant crying. hes our coach and he will be for the foreseeable future. im gonna ride with him until the players are out and he lost the lockerroom. and again, i know he has his flaws and id love to see him go 9-10 man deep in the regular season and reduce minutes on the starters. thibs is a pretty good coach, definitley one of the better ones in the league. you dont just throw that out of the window for unproven people or people that dont fit, just for the sake of firing the coach.

You act as if you know the guy is staying. All I’m saying is people within the organization were talking and continued to notice his head scratching decisions. Kolek and huk are the most expensive second round players ever yet got minimal or no playing time over the year. Whether or not you want to realize it, it’s been posted and talked about by Knick content creators such as KFTV who are represented by CAA and those who are funded by Dolan that “Thibs is coaching on thin ice”. Of course Thibs will look like an amazing coach but when you wake up and before you Type anything , ask yourself if the offense you saw here was not the same offense you saw in years past with Randle and Payton. Randle and rose. That means THERES A LACK OF ADAPTABILITY.

His lack of adjustments costed us THE SERIES. PERIOD. so before you continue to yap, and type as if you know something, just stop and get help while you can. His job is not as solid and certain as you think. There have been rumblings from within the front office about constructing a roster for him to not only not play it, but risk injury to his starting 5 who he overplayed.

As for the bolded part of your statement, he’s not even in the top 10 of coaches and it ain’t even close. Spo. Atkinson. Udoka. Kerr. Daigenault. Finch. Carlisle. Nick Nurse. Tyronn Lue. And the list doesn’t include Malone and Bud who coached the majority of the season last year with their respective teams. That doesn’t put him in the top third of the league. That puts him in the second third which makes him MEDIOCRE. If you really think he’s one of the better coaches in the league, I again, suggest you stop typing and maybe reassess your basketball analysis, Because you’re going to “keep riding with him” to mediocrity.

I can almost guarantee that you have been watching ball for about 25 years or less, and because you’ve had success with him as your coach, your sticking to him because that’s the only success you know. That’s not how you win a ring and that’s not how life works, bud.

okay buddy, you are in your feelings. fair enough, you are passionate and hurt i can respect that.

but if you think KFTV or any knicks content creator knows whats up behind the scenes, im sorry we dont need to talk any further. nobody knows anything what leon is doing. he compeltely operates in silence and very rarely does stuff leak. we never really hear rumors other than assumptions from guys like windy, etc. there even are reports out already, that thibs has the backing of leon rose and jalen brunson.

you can have your opinon about the other coaches and i can have mine. i dont feel like going that deep into it and start picking all situations apart tbh. its not worth it, you are not susceptible for a reasonable debate about that. since you hate thibs so much, theres nothing anybody can say anyway.

but honestly, i think you need to take a break and stop typing. it was a taxing season.

stop quoting me if all you can do is get personal and be in your feelings.

[Gravy]

I honestly think thibs ruined fourniers nba carreer. He was a near 40% 3pt shooter when we desperately needed shooting and thibs put him in the doghouse for no good reason. yea, he was a bad defender but so were most of the other players on that roster.

other than that id agree. all these playerrs pretty much have peaked and kemba was washed and old.

Fournier was putting up empty stats on bad teams most of his career. When he had to be an important piece on a playoff team here his flawed defense dragged them down.

So why is it that when the rubber meets the road, our players’ weaknesses are exploited during the playoffs, but Thibs can’t seem to do the same for opposing players. Incredible, when guys come to our team, all of a sudden “their flaws are exposed”.

You are always going to blame Thibs for everything when the players themselves say they love him and reports are coming out that they have been frustrated with KAT all season. Put some responsibility on the players.

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[Kampuchea]

I honestly think thibs ruined fourniers nba carreer. He was a near 40% 3pt shooter when we desperately needed shooting and thibs put him in the doghouse for no good reason. yea, he was a bad defender but so were most of the other players on that roster.

other than that id agree. all these playerrs pretty much have peaked and kemba was washed and old.

Fournier was putting up empty stats on bad teams most of his career. When he had to be an important piece on a playoff team here his flawed defense dragged them down.

So why is it that when the rubber meets the road, our players’ weaknesses are exploited during the playoffs, but Thibs can’t seem to do the same for opposing players. Incredible, when guys come to our team, all of a sudden “their flaws are exposed”.

We just progressed to the ECF, talking about “exploited” smh

[Kidknick!]

I don't understand how people can say "This guy sucks, trade him and trade that guy." But the coach, who is charge of game planning, strategy and player minute allocation and deployment is treated like some sacred cow. How exactly does that work?

Some players may not fit, but neither does the coach. In fact, the Coach has been the bigger problem than any player. And that doesn't mean don't make a go at Giannis or someone else in that tier to be better. But to bring back an almost 70 year old man who REFUSES to adapt to a modern game or even show any coaching hubris is a joke.

If a Giannis or Booker is available. Go for it. But you gotta get off this coach.

[Spot31]

I see mediocrity is your forté

hast noting to do with what my forté is. Thats just the reality.

All the coaches in the playoffs coached some bad games and some amazing games. Im not even arguing most of the points yall bring up.

but we dont gain anything from the constant crying. hes our coach and he will be for the foreseeable future. im gonna ride with him until the players are out and he lost the lockerroom. and again, i know he has his flaws and id love to see him go 9-10 man deep in the regular season and reduce minutes on the starters. thibs is a pretty good coach, definitley one of the better ones in the league. you dont just throw that out of the window for unproven people or people that dont fit, just for the sake of firing the coach.

You act as if you know the guy is staying. All I’m saying is people within the organization were talking and continued to notice his head scratching decisions. Kolek and huk are the most expensive second round players ever yet got minimal or no playing time over the year. Whether or not you want to realize it, it’s been posted and talked about by Knick content creators such as KFTV who are represented by CAA and those who are funded by Dolan that “Thibs is coaching on thin ice”. Of course Thibs will look like an amazing coach but when you wake up and before you Type anything , ask yourself if the offense you saw here was not the same offense you saw in years past with Randle and Payton. Randle and rose. That means THERES A LACK OF ADAPTABILITY.

His lack of adjustments costed us THE SERIES. PERIOD. so before you continue to yap, and type as if you know something, just stop and get help while you can. His job is not as solid and certain as you think. There have been rumblings from within the front office about constructing a roster for him to not only not play it, but risk injury to his starting 5 who he overplayed.

As for the bolded part of your statement, he’s not even in the top 10 of coaches and it ain’t even close. Spo. Atkinson. Udoka. Kerr. Daigenault. Finch. Carlisle. Nick Nurse. Tyronn Lue. And the list doesn’t include Malone and Bud who coached the majority of the season last year with their respective teams. That doesn’t put him in the top third of the league. That puts him in the second third which makes him MEDIOCRE. If you really think he’s one of the better coaches in the league, I again, suggest you stop typing and maybe reassess your basketball analysis, Because you’re going to “keep riding with him” to mediocrity.

I can almost guarantee that you have been watching ball for about 25 years or less, and because you’ve had success with him as your coach, your sticking to him because that’s the only success you know. That’s not how you win a ring and that’s not how life works, bud.

Who the heck watches KFTV?

[Red Vines]

Even with good coaches they don't last forever because eventually you just need a new voice, a new infusion of ideas and energy, things go stale. We're at that stage. Our offense has looked terribly basic beyond belief every year under Thibs and the defense doesn't even matter when he's not holding anyone accountable. Maybe the old Thibs did but he strangely seems to go along to get along now and the result is game 6 of the ECF where we looked totally outclassed.

[ctorres]

Read on Twitter

Seems like he is staying

[HopelessKnick]

Whether Thibs is brought back or not---what would be the biggest mistake is rolling this team, meaning players + coaches just back. If Rose is set on bringing Thibs back he absolutely needs to trade KAT and Leon needs to bring back the type of players that fit Thibs philosophy more. Thibs offensively is way too weak to make this work with the defensive shortcomings this composition of players has. Brunson and KAT already do not look like two players that have great chemistry between them. Having an offensively challenged coach is not gonig to make it work.

If it was up to me I would replace Thibs and additionally trade KAT for 2 2way players to solve the defensive problems and the depth issue. But Leon has to do at least one of the two if he is reluctant to replace Thibs. And don't get me wrong, I really do appreciate KAT a lot...I generally tend to like those well-behaved, good characters that genuinely want to be in NY. I personally don't know how to make a team with JB and KAT on it good defensively so I would trade KAT.

Since January we were 27-21 in the regular season. It is still a good record but it would ultimate not even be a 50win pace. In the playoffs we played EXACTLY like in those final 48 games. Against Detroit we struggled mightely to barely get by with big luck. I don't think it is wild to say that Detroit kind of outplayed us in 4 out of the 6 games but they lacked experience to close those games out.

Against Indy, a good but not great team, we struggled again and the Pacers outplayed us.

The Celtics series was good and as a knick fan you want to give all the credit to the players but I think we all here are real enough to acknowledge that a lot of the outcome had to do with the Celtics struggling mightely hitting open shots.

For me overall, despite the very good result of making the ECF, the season was underwhelming. In the playoffs--in all honesty, we did not really outplay any of the 3 teams and one can even make the point that we were mostly outplayed, but having the clutchest player in the league and sopme good clutch individual play made us win almost every close game. I just never thought (maybe Nomember/December asie) the team clicked and defended consistantly. Once Hart's hot 3 point shooting streak to start the season was over, the starting 5 deteriorated quickly. We played 100 games this season. Including the playoffs, we were 35-30 over the last 65 games. We had a pretty injury free season. That's a huge sample size.

For a team that went all-in last offseason, I feel the season was underwhleming. The result was good but if you solely focus on the level of play, I really didn't think we came anywhere near what I thought it could be. If we had all our picks I would be much more relaxed---but not having control over your pick for 6 years while just having lost against a borderline top 10 team while having HCA is not as great as it may seem.....

Don't roll it back! We will only waste next season....

[Pr0nzingis]

Things that Thibs figured out during the Pacers series:

1. Delon Wright >> Cam Payne.
2. Shamet can play very effectively for 10-15 minutes when KAT is in the lineup.
3. Starters are most effective when playing 35 minutes, not 40+.
4. Brunson can play defense when he's not playing 44 minutes per game.

It just took him being 0-2 after 2 games at home and being 17 point behind game 3. Was he trying to blame the bench? U know the specimens that defend him would have eat it up. I can see it "Knicks are 0-3 because thibs did what u guys want it, play the bench" LMAO

Elimination game he figured out to not play both Brunson and Towns for an extended period of time... oh wait.


I would love to know...

Knicks EVERY SINGLE TIME being destroyed start of 3Q is not the coach fault? Its mine?

I saw Stan Van Gundy rip the Knicks appart because at game 6 they were STILL allowing Pacers get layups on 2 second possessions, but he also defends Thibs so yes it's my fault i guess.

Who's fault Brunson was completly exausthed and useless? Again mine i guess.


U know whats a decent coach?

Knicks were being blocked left and right, so they start to pump and fake, it worked, the more athetlic pacers went flying past Knicks players and hello easy layup. Guess what happened last game... eveytime Knicks players pump and fake, Pacers players just standed still and then got easy blocks when Knicks players went for the layup.

This is the most basic example of adjusting and correcting behaviors, something Thibs is completly UNABLE TO DO!

[sol537]

Twitter reports so far saying Thibs will return…

[8516knicks]

Read on Twitter

Seems like he is staying

For 2025-26 -- No changes; No draft picks; No free agents = No Hope.

Celtics will be back next year. Pistons will be better. Pacers will be better. Cavs will be better.

Can't depend on injuries to help us next year. And if Mitch starts the season playing, odds are he'll be out before the Playoffs next year (for his career he averages 48 games/yr. Last 3 years he averaged 36 games/yr regular season. then we'll have KAT at center.

And no D.

[Stannis]

Read on Twitter

Seems like he is staying

I think he's just saying that this offseason isn't gonna be some vacation but lots of work/training

Which is what you expect a coach who just lost a conference finals to say

[Jeffrey]

Read on Twitter

Seems like he is staying

For 2025-26 -- No changes; No draft picks; No free agents = No Hope.

Celtics will be back next year. Pistons will be better. Pacers will be better. Cavs will be better.

Can't depend on injuries to help us next year. And if Mitch starts the season playing, odds are he'll be out before the Playoffs next year (for his career he averages 48 games/yr. Last 3 years he averaged 36 games/yr regular season. then we'll have KAT at center.

And no D.

THIS RIGHT HERE! People see Mitch as a great contributor. I've never said he wasn't.. its that he is injury prone and are we taking a gamble to lean on Mitch so heavily. This also goes for OG, he is injury prone as well and are we taking a gamble next year? Not saying we should trade them but we need to look at the risk here.

New CBA does not help if we are up against the 2nd apron.

[Enzo954]

We all know Leon isn't firing Thibs. With that being said, ask yourself if this squad would have made it to the finals or even possibly win a championship if you theoretically replaced Thibs with other top tier coaches in the league. Would coaches like Spo, Kerr, Carlisle, Atkinson, Bickerstaff, Lue bring us further? I say yes and there lies the problem with Leons relationship with Thibs. If there is a better coach to be found this off season, Leon won't pull the trigger. We're stuck with Thibs for at least another year or 2 with the contract they recently gave him.

[The KnicksFix]

hast noting to do with what my forté is. Thats just the reality.

All the coaches in the playoffs coached some bad games and some amazing games. Im not even arguing most of the points yall bring up.

but we dont gain anything from the constant crying. hes our coach and he will be for the foreseeable future. im gonna ride with him until the players are out and he lost the lockerroom. and again, i know he has his flaws and id love to see him go 9-10 man deep in the regular season and reduce minutes on the starters. thibs is a pretty good coach, definitley one of the better ones in the league. you dont just throw that out of the window for unproven people or people that dont fit, just for the sake of firing the coach.

You act as if you know the guy is staying. All I’m saying is people within the organization were talking and continued to notice his head scratching decisions. Kolek and huk are the most expensive second round players ever yet got minimal or no playing time over the year. Whether or not you want to realize it, it’s been posted and talked about by Knick content creators such as KFTV who are represented by CAA and those who are funded by Dolan that “Thibs is coaching on thin ice”. Of course Thibs will look like an amazing coach but when you wake up and before you Type anything , ask yourself if the offense you saw here was not the same offense you saw in years past with Randle and Payton. Randle and rose. That means THERES A LACK OF ADAPTABILITY.

His lack of adjustments costed us THE SERIES. PERIOD. so before you continue to yap, and type as if you know something, just stop and get help while you can. His job is not as solid and certain as you think. There have been rumblings from within the front office about constructing a roster for him to not only not play it, but risk injury to his starting 5 who he overplayed.

As for the bolded part of your statement, he’s not even in the top 10 of coaches and it ain’t even close. Spo. Atkinson. Udoka. Kerr. Daigenault. Finch. Carlisle. Nick Nurse. Tyronn Lue. And the list doesn’t include Malone and Bud who coached the majority of the season last year with their respective teams. That doesn’t put him in the top third of the league. That puts him in the second third which makes him MEDIOCRE. If you really think he’s one of the better coaches in the league, I again, suggest you stop typing and maybe reassess your basketball analysis, Because you’re going to “keep riding with him” to mediocrity.

I can almost guarantee that you have been watching ball for about 25 years or less, and because you’ve had success with him as your coach, your sticking to him because that’s the only success you know. That’s not how you win a ring and that’s not how life works, bud.

okay buddy, you are in your feelings. fair enough, you are passionate and hurt i can respect that.

but if you think KFTV or any knicks content creator knows whats up behind the scenes, im sorry we dont need to talk any further. nobody knows anything what leon is doing. he compeltely operates in silence and very rarely does stuff leak. we never really hear rumors other than assumptions from guys like windy, etc. there even are reports out already, that thibs has the backing of leon rose and jalen brunson.

you can have your opinon about the other coaches and i can have mine. i dont feel like going that deep into it and start picking all situations apart tbh. its not worth it, you are not susceptible for a reasonable debate about that. since you hate thibs so much, theres nothing anybody can say anyway.

but honestly, i think you need to take a break and stop typing. it was a taxing season.

stop quoting me if all you can do is get personal and be in your feelings.

You the one who said “I’m riding with him till the end” like some groupie. Then you’re telling people to accept that he’s coming back. Like tf? Just because you think he’s coming back don’t mean we have to agree with you, you are posting in a “Thibs is gone” thread after all

You said he’s one of the best coaches in the league
I just listed 10 coaches who are better , your response
“Ok buddy you’re in your feels”
Lmaoooo you can’t even back up your own perspective but I should have figured that based off your name alone, “Nostatsguy”

Bro said “there are reports out already that he’s staying” , yea bud there’s also reports that Giannis is a Knick LMAOOO
You still didn’t answer the question if you have been watching ball for less than 25 years and that’s why you want Thibs because he’s the best coach you’ve had. Again. Do better for yourself and stop settling for mediocrity.
Stop it. Get help while you still can

[The KnicksFix]

hast noting to do with what my forté is. Thats just the reality.

All the coaches in the playoffs coached some bad games and some amazing games. Im not even arguing most of the points yall bring up.

but we dont gain anything from the constant crying. hes our coach and he will be for the foreseeable future. im gonna ride with him until the players are out and he lost the lockerroom. and again, i know he has his flaws and id love to see him go 9-10 man deep in the regular season and reduce minutes on the starters. thibs is a pretty good coach, definitley one of the better ones in the league. you dont just throw that out of the window for unproven people or people that dont fit, just for the sake of firing the coach.

You act as if you know the guy is staying. All I’m saying is people within the organization were talking and continued to notice his head scratching decisions. Kolek and huk are the most expensive second round players ever yet got minimal or no playing time over the year. Whether or not you want to realize it, it’s been posted and talked about by Knick content creators such as KFTV who are represented by CAA and those who are funded by Dolan that “Thibs is coaching on thin ice”. Of course Thibs will look like an amazing coach but when you wake up and before you Type anything , ask yourself if the offense you saw here was not the same offense you saw in years past with Randle and Payton. Randle and rose. That means THERES A LACK OF ADAPTABILITY.

His lack of adjustments costed us THE SERIES. PERIOD. so before you continue to yap, and type as if you know something, just stop and get help while you can. His job is not as solid and certain as you think. There have been rumblings from within the front office about constructing a roster for him to not only not play it, but risk injury to his starting 5 who he overplayed.

As for the bolded part of your statement, he’s not even in the top 10 of coaches and it ain’t even close. Spo. Atkinson. Udoka. Kerr. Daigenault. Finch. Carlisle. Nick Nurse. Tyronn Lue. And the list doesn’t include Malone and Bud who coached the majority of the season last year with their respective teams. That doesn’t put him in the top third of the league. That puts him in the second third which makes him MEDIOCRE. If you really think he’s one of the better coaches in the league, I again, suggest you stop typing and maybe reassess your basketball analysis, Because you’re going to “keep riding with him” to mediocrity.

I can almost guarantee that you have been watching ball for about 25 years or less, and because you’ve had success with him as your coach, your sticking to him because that’s the only success you know. That’s not how you win a ring and that’s not how life works, bud.

Who the heck watches KFTV?

They got 100,000 subscribers and are funded by Dolan and CAA, so I would say quite a lot

[spree8]

We all know Leon isn't firing Thibs. With that being said, ask yourself if this squad would have made it to the finals or even possibly win a championship if you theoretically replaced Thibs with other top tier coaches in the league. Would coaches like Spo, Kerr, Carlisle, Atkinson, Bickerstaff, Lue bring us further? I say yes and there lies the problem with Leons relationship with Thibs. If there is a better coach to be found this off season, Leon won't pull the trigger. We're stuck with Thibs for at least another year or 2 with the contract they recently gave him.

If we had Spo I think the current team wins the title this year and probably the next 2 years as we improve the bench… he’s the exact opposite of Thibs. Wish Dolan threw 20m per year at him

[Pr0nzingis]

You act as if you know the guy is staying. All I’m saying is people within the organization were talking and continued to notice his head scratching decisions. Kolek and huk are the most expensive second round players ever yet got minimal or no playing time over the year. Whether or not you want to realize it, it’s been posted and talked about by Knick content creators such as KFTV who are represented by CAA and those who are funded by Dolan that “Thibs is coaching on thin ice”. Of course Thibs will look like an amazing coach but when you wake up and before you Type anything , ask yourself if the offense you saw here was not the same offense you saw in years past with Randle and Payton. Randle and rose. That means THERES A LACK OF ADAPTABILITY.

His lack of adjustments costed us THE SERIES. PERIOD. so before you continue to yap, and type as if you know something, just stop and get help while you can. His job is not as solid and certain as you think. There have been rumblings from within the front office about constructing a roster for him to not only not play it, but risk injury to his starting 5 who he overplayed.

As for the bolded part of your statement, he’s not even in the top 10 of coaches and it ain’t even close. Spo. Atkinson. Udoka. Kerr. Daigenault. Finch. Carlisle. Nick Nurse. Tyronn Lue. And the list doesn’t include Malone and Bud who coached the majority of the season last year with their respective teams. That doesn’t put him in the top third of the league. That puts him in the second third which makes him MEDIOCRE. If you really think he’s one of the better coaches in the league, I again, suggest you stop typing and maybe reassess your basketball analysis, Because you’re going to “keep riding with him” to mediocrity.

I can almost guarantee that you have been watching ball for about 25 years or less, and because you’ve had success with him as your coach, your sticking to him because that’s the only success you know. That’s not how you win a ring and that’s not how life works, bud.

okay buddy, you are in your feelings. fair enough, you are passionate and hurt i can respect that.

but if you think KFTV or any knicks content creator knows whats up behind the scenes, im sorry we dont need to talk any further. nobody knows anything what leon is doing. he compeltely operates in silence and very rarely does stuff leak. we never really hear rumors other than assumptions from guys like windy, etc. there even are reports out already, that thibs has the backing of leon rose and jalen brunson.

you can have your opinon about the other coaches and i can have mine. i dont feel like going that deep into it and start picking all situations apart tbh. its not worth it, you are not susceptible for a reasonable debate about that. since you hate thibs so much, theres nothing anybody can say anyway.

but honestly, i think you need to take a break and stop typing. it was a taxing season.

stop quoting me if all you can do is get personal and be in your feelings.

You the one who said “I’m riding with him till the end” like some groupie. Then you’re telling people to accept that he’s coming back. Like tf? Just because you think he’s coming back don’t mean we have to agree with you, you are posting in a “Thibs is gone” thread after all

You said he’s one of the best coaches in the league
I just listed 10 coaches who are better , your response
“Ok buddy you’re in your feels”
Lmaoooo you can’t even back up your own perspective but I should have figured that based off your name alone, “Nostatsguy”

Bro said “there are reports out already that he’s staying” , yea bud there’s also reports that Giannis is a Knick LMAOOO
You still didn’t answer the question if you have been watching ball for less than 25 years and that’s why you want Thibs because he’s the best coach you’ve had. Again. Do better for yourself and stop settling for mediocrity.
Stop it. Get help while you still can

So many ppl fall on this trap.

1. Being the coach that did better in the last 25 years doesn't make him the best, this is basic stuff.
2. But lets keep it simple, zero critical analysis, yes he is the best, that only shows how bad the ones before him were, not how good he is.

Your best player was a non factor because he was exausted in the second half of games in the ECF, the clutch player of the league and people are still defending the idiot that caused that.