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Re: Build-a-Team 7.0 Contact Info & Discussion Thread 

Post#1821 » by 2010 » Fri May 18, 2012 5:08 pm

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LOJ wrote:Faried can defend 3's just fine. :wink:


Keep in mind it's not what you think, but rather what the judges (or to a lesser extent, your comrads think) ...assuming we will be ranking eachothers teams except our own.


Right, but my comrads can't just say things without looking at the numbers and the facts. If they have an opinion I hope they back it up with something and not just persona preference.


There are not concrete #'s which present a valid argument that Faried can play SF full-time effectively. He is a "4". To make him a "3" neutralizes his strengths and will underscore his weaknesses.
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Post#1822 » by mpharris36 » Fri May 18, 2012 5:09 pm

2010 wrote:Please watch Klay Thompson more intently and familiarize yourself with his game if possible next season. Dude is a very underrated passer. He moves the ball very crisply and makes some nifty passes. He's also an adequate rebounder for a SG.

Examine his game-log, paying particular attention to his assists and rebounds
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/489 ... 3Wu4mkvLYF

You're right about defensive concerns though.


I had Klay on my fantasy team so I tried to watch him has much as possible. I know he can rack up rebs and assists. But to me I saw those as "empty" stats as Golden State was not even close to playoffs and was playing more of a pickup style of basketball. He was forced to handle the ball more because Golden State never had a PG all season (rotating door with Nate running alot of PG). I think he fits into more of that Ray Allen mode (he will score and come off screens and shoot). I know we saw a lot of 4-6 assists game at the end of the year.

but i see him more of a 2-3 assists guy in his career. He has the ability to pass but I see him more as the guy receiving the pass then creating for others.
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Post#1823 » by Jose7 » Fri May 18, 2012 5:09 pm

I know Thompson isn't the best defender out there but again for my team and my movement I need snipers with a rangy game. Plus he is a great off the ball, off of
Screens or curls.. Hell get better he is a rookie but damn he is talented I feel personally and was not risking him being there at 80 lol
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Post#1824 » by LOJ » Fri May 18, 2012 5:10 pm

The thing is he will not be playing SF full time, his time will be split between SF and backup PF for Dirk.

He is an athletic beast, I saw him keep up with Matt Barnes just fine and get a blocked shot on a 3pointer.

If by neutralizing his strengths you mean rebounding, Kevin Durant averaged a ton of boards at SF, and Kenneth is a much better rebounder, yes he is that good check the stats.

If anything he will be playing a lot of 4 to begin with no problem. He was the BPA by far.
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Post#1825 » by 2010 » Fri May 18, 2012 5:10 pm

Fury wrote:I wanted Klay Thompson. Screw picking too early or whatever. Don't pass people up cause he may be 5 spots too high. You don't have a pick 5 spots from there!


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Post#1826 » by 2010 » Fri May 18, 2012 5:11 pm

Fury wrote:You shouldn't take the risk if that's the guy you want.


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Post#1827 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Fri May 18, 2012 5:12 pm

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They are letting him because he's more effective in te paint. Still doesn't take away his percent during the regular season.


Also..he really can't. Not even a tweener. Dude is a 4.


CBS sports has him listed as a SF, and NBA.com has him as Forward. As of now he is more effective at the 4, but the only reason he's getting so many minutes at the 4 is because the Nuggets don't have other 4's to play. Specially with Chandler being injured.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/pl ... eth-faried


Also to add to this, Sessions only had such a high percentage because he attempted 1.5 threes per game last season.

He doesn't spread the floor at all and the Thunder are completely punishing the Lakers because of it.

19% from 3pt, and 36% from the field, awful. And of course the playoffs have more weight than regular season, if this is what's going to happen when you need him most then.... No thanks


He never played SF this year. I watched the Nuggets because of Gallo...I'm not talking out of my ass. He is a power forward.

As for sessions...once again 40% from three is VERY good. 1.5 attempts isnt horrible. He's better inside te line and uses his speed to his advantage. No need to constantly shoot them.
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Post#1828 » by LOJ » Fri May 18, 2012 5:13 pm

Paco wrote:He never played SF this year. I watched the Nuggets because of Gallo...I'm not talking out of my ass. He is a power forward.

As for sessions...once again 40% from three is VERY good. 1.5 attempts isnt horrible. He's better inside te line and uses his speed to his advantage. No need to constantly shoot them.


He never played SF this year because they are PACKED with SF's and no PF's! They needed him full time at PF with Harrington.

Gallo/Brewer socked up all the SF minutes and early in the season Faried didn't even get playing time.
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Post#1829 » by Knicksfan20 » Fri May 18, 2012 5:13 pm

Faried was a huge reach IMO. Your prob could have traded down 15-20 picks and still got him.
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Post#1830 » by 2010 » Fri May 18, 2012 5:13 pm

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2010 wrote:Please watch Klay Thompson more intently and familiarize yourself with his game if possible next season. Dude is a very underrated passer. He moves the ball very crisply and makes some nifty passes. He's also an adequate rebounder for a SG.

Examine his game-log, paying particular attention to his assists and rebounds
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/489 ... 3Wu4mkvLYF

You're right about defensive concerns though.


I had Klay on my fantasy team so I tried to watch him has much as possible. I know he can rack up rebs and assists. But to me I saw those as "empty" stats as Golden State was not even close to playoffs and was playing more of a pickup style of basketball. He was forced to handle the ball more because Golden State never had a PG all season (rotating door with Nate running alot of PG). I think he fits into more of that Ray Allen mode (he will score and come off screens and shoot). I know we saw a lot of 4-6 assists game at the end of the year.

but i see him more of a 2-3 assists guy in his career. He has the ability to pass but I see him more as the guy receiving the pass then creating for others.


Fair assessment. I don't see him as somone who you run an offense through. But he's effective at getting the point guard the "hockey assist" (making the extra pass after the PG kicks it to him). He's had that element to his game since college playing in a structured offense, not freelance Warrior ball.
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Post#1831 » by mpharris36 » Fri May 18, 2012 5:15 pm

Why does Sessions need to shoot 3's anyway?

Paco has probably the best shooting 4 and 5 in the BAT with Horford and Bargs. They will spread the floor plenty for sessions to get into the paint.

Horford and Bargs both have killer jump shots...I think Sessions is a phenominal (amare voice) fit on Paco's team!
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Post#1832 » by LOJ » Fri May 18, 2012 5:18 pm

mpharris36 wrote:Why does Sessions need to shoot 3's anyway?

Paco has probably the best shooting 4 and 5 in the NBA with Horford and Bargs. They will spread the floor plenty for sessions to get into the paint.

Horford and Bargs both have killer jump shots...I think Sessions is a phenominal (amare voice) fit on Paco's team!


He won't get into the paint so easily if they are playing 10 ft away from him. Look at what OKC is doing, guy is playing terribly and making the Lakers miss Fisher.

Not saying it's a horrible fit, but those are the reasons I passed on him.
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Post#1833 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Fri May 18, 2012 5:18 pm

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Paco wrote:He never played SF this year. I watched the Nuggets because of Gallo...I'm not talking out of my ass. He is a power forward.

As for sessions...once again 40% from three is VERY good. 1.5 attempts isnt horrible. He's better inside te line and uses his speed to his advantage. No need to constantly shoot them.


He never played SF this year because they are PACKED with SF's and no PF's! They needed him full time at PF with Harrington.

Gallo/Brewer socked up all the SF minutes and early in the season Faried didn't even get playing time.


Whatever dude. If he could have played sf, he would have gotten minutes when they were hit with injuries. Fact is, he NEVER played there. They went small with afflalo at sf and even played Hamilton. It had nothing to do with there being no minutes...he's a 4. Also, they have a crowded big rotation too. Moz, Nene, al, gallo for stretches, chandler, etc. I gotta to, but you're wrong if you think he can play sf.
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Post#1834 » by Knicksfan20 » Fri May 18, 2012 5:18 pm

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Knicksfan20 wrote:Your squad looks pretty decent, but i think with your current team (Aldridge and Granger) You should have went with a PG. Im sure you have a plan for the later rounds, but i think you should have gone with a better PG now who can hit Grainger and Aldridge in their spots. Grainger is a good 1 on 1 player, but he is an even better when hes moving without the ball. You need somone who can find him when he comes off the screen for the open 2 or 3. Matthews is a great player though. Definatly towards the top of my current list of "BPA" But you can find serviceable SG's later on too. Not so much with starting PG's.

True... I am looking to trade up into the late third early 4th to get my point guard. Theres about 5 or 6 guys who would work good with this team. I ont need a pg like rondo or nash who has to set the table perfectly for guys but a pg and good penetration is always important for any offense.



I think Calderon would have been sick on your team. I didnt wanna name drop before, but now that he was taken...I think you messed up by passing on him. Just my 2c though.
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Post#1835 » by mpharris36 » Fri May 18, 2012 5:21 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:Why does Sessions need to shoot 3's anyway?

Paco has probably the best shooting 4 and 5 in the NBA with Horford and Bargs. They will spread the floor plenty for sessions to get into the paint.

Horford and Bargs both have killer jump shots...I think Sessions is a phenominal (amare voice) fit on Paco's team!


He won't get into the paint so easily if they are playing 10 ft away from him. Look at what OKC is doing, guy is playing terribly and making the Lakers miss Fisher.

Not saying it's a horrible fit, but those are the reasons I passed on him.


he is having trouble because sessions isn't a great fit for the lakers offense...bynum and gasol are clogging up the paint which doesn't allow sessions to get into the paint.

Maybe I am speaking out of turn for Paco but I see him building a mini celtics (real life team). Sessions is his poor mans rondo but he has a great shooting 4 and 5 even better than the real life celtics to spread the floor.

Rondo has no problem getting into the paint because the floor is spaced...i see paco doing the same thing with his team.
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Post#1836 » by LOJ » Fri May 18, 2012 5:22 pm

Paco wrote:
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Paco wrote:He never played SF this year. I watched the Nuggets because of Gallo...I'm not talking out of my ass. He is a power forward.

As for sessions...once again 40% from three is VERY good. 1.5 attempts isnt horrible. He's better inside te line and uses his speed to his advantage. No need to constantly shoot them.


He never played SF this year because they are PACKED with SF's and no PF's! They needed him full time at PF with Harrington.

Gallo/Brewer socked up all the SF minutes and early in the season Faried didn't even get playing time.


Whatever dude. If he could have played sf, he would have gotten minutes when they were hit with injuries. Fact is, he NEVER played there. They went small with afflalo at sf and even played Hamilton. It had nothing to do with there being no minutes...he's a 4. Also, they have a crowded big rotation too. Moz, Nene, al, gallo for stretches, chandler, etc. I gotta to, but you're wrong if you think he can play sf.


When Nene was there Faried didn't even get minutes, his talent started surfacing when more minutes were opened to him. The Nuggets offense relies a lot on 3 point shot, and that's something that Faried has to work on.

The guy has only played half a year and almost took the crown from Kyrie Irving and you already want to label what he can and can't do? :-?

Did you not see that I showed you he is labeled as a SF as well? He can play both spots just fine on defense, and drives to the lane beautifully.

I'll post it again: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/pl ... eth-faried
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Post#1837 » by mpharris36 » Fri May 18, 2012 5:23 pm

great pick and role man for ctorres but ....oh boy that defense (calderon and amare) playing on the floor together....turn styles
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Post#1838 » by LOJ » Fri May 18, 2012 5:23 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
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mpharris36 wrote:Why does Sessions need to shoot 3's anyway?

Paco has probably the best shooting 4 and 5 in the NBA with Horford and Bargs. They will spread the floor plenty for sessions to get into the paint.

Horford and Bargs both have killer jump shots...I think Sessions is a phenominal (amare voice) fit on Paco's team!


He won't get into the paint so easily if they are playing 10 ft away from him. Look at what OKC is doing, guy is playing terribly and making the Lakers miss Fisher.

Not saying it's a horrible fit, but those are the reasons I passed on him.


he is having trouble because sessions isn't a great fit for the lakers offense...bynum and gasol are clogging up the paint which doesn't allow sessions to get into the paint.

Maybe I am speaking out of turn for Paco but I see him building a mini celtics (real life team). Sessions is his poor mans rondo but he has a great shooting 4 and 5 even better than the real life celtics to spread the floor.

Rondo has no problem getting into the paint because the floor is spaced...i see paco doing the same thing with his team.


Can't compare Bargnani to Garnett on defense and rebounds.
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Post#1839 » by 2010 » Fri May 18, 2012 5:23 pm

ctorres is about to clean up! :lol:

Love the Ray Allen pick, great value.
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Post#1840 » by ctorres » Fri May 18, 2012 5:25 pm

My plan worked!! I got Ray Allen who i was considering at 60 before I traded the pick. Also got one of the absolute best shooters at the PG position in Jose Calderon who runs the pick and roll very well.

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