Build a Franchise Discussion- Season 3

[Mecca]

someone give me spark notes, what did I miss?

[bringbackhoffa]

Siakam **** sucks

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[Context]

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2010 is a real one. Melo is a good kid that means well too.

2010 and Melo and1'd this post....You (Mecca) also agreed that you wouldn't provoke me/etc... By making this post you are indirectly talking to me/instigating/etc. I could have reported you- with what you said before- that's why you deleted the posts and agreed to not instigate anything in the future with me. Yet, look at what you are doing now

Melo, Brazilian Knick and 2010- are working together to create this narrative that I cause trouble drama etc...
However, if you look at the threads where said drama began you will find that I didnt fire the first shot. Not only that,
many GM's encouraged the "fighting"...
I ask that if any GM is bothered or annoyed by this constant back and forth- please look at the threads and you will see for yourself.
If you dont have time, I will compile a report on all three. I am guilty of- if you hit me- I will hit much harder.
If you are offended at my aggressiveness as a GM - then I am guilty of that. I thought we were pretending to
be GM's...I thought this was a competition...

As far as the things I am accused of by 2010 behind the scenes- if you guys keep trying to push this false and hypocritical narrative
you will leave me no choice but to post whats apps that will prove that 2010 and Melo are guilty of what they have accused me of.
As far as Brazilian knick's last post- its not accurate and I am willing to leave it alone but if he comes out again- I will break that situation down as well- with PM proof. I wrote to him got no response- thats fine but I will not stand here and take
anymore misinformation being posted about me.

Just to show you that I want peace in BAF- I am willing to move forward but if you guys can't be "real ones" then
you will force me to defend myself.

For the record, I have traded and dealt with 22 GM's and have had no issues with any of them... I have done over 70 trades and during the course
of that BK and I had an issue...Melos issue began with the disrespectful way that he addressed me, Mecca's issue goes way back and he came out of no where and disrespected me and 2010 as I mentioned before got mad because I challenged his knowledge of the sim and it spiraled- period...stop trying to make it bigger than that... Ya'll talk all of this real one stuff but aint acting like real ones...

Take care, be safe out there...

[DOT]

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2010 is a real one. Melo is a good kid that means well too.

2010 and Melo and1'd this post....You (Mecca) also agreed that you wouldn't provoke me/etc... By making this post you are indirectly talking to me/instigating/etc. I could have reported you- with what you said before- that's why you deleted the posts and agreed to not instigate anything in the future with me. Yet, look at what you are doing now

Melo, Brazilian Knick and 2010- are working together to create this narrative that I cause trouble drama etc...
However, if you look at the threads where said drama began you will find that I didnt fire the first shot. Not only that,
many GM's encouraged the "fighting"...
I ask that if any GM is bothered or annoyed by this constant back and forth- please look at the threads and you will see for yourself.
If you dont have time, I will compile a report on all three. I am guilty of- if you hit me- I will hit much harder.
If you are offended at my aggressiveness as a GM - then I am guilty of that. I thought we were pretending to
be GM's...I thought this was a competition...

As far as the things I am accused of by 2010 behind the scenes- if you guys keep trying to push this false and hypocritical narrative
you will leave me no choice but to post whats apps that will prove that 2010 and Melo are guilty of what they have accused me of.
As far as Brazilian knick's last post- its not accurate and I am willing to leave it alone but if he comes out again- I will break that situation down as well- with PM proof. I wrote to him got no response- thats fine but I will not stand here and take
anymore misinformation being posted about me.

Just to show you that I want peace in BAF- I am willing to move forward but if you guys can't be "real ones" then
you will force me to defend myself.

For the record, I have traded and dealt with 22 GM's and have had no issues with any of them... I have done over 70 trades and during the course
of that BK and I had an issue...Melos issue began with the disrespectful way that he addressed me, Mecca's issue goes way back and he came out of no where and disrespected me and 2010 as I mentioned before got mad because I challenged his knowledge of the sim and it spiraled- period...stop trying to make it bigger than that... Ya'll talk all of this real one stuff but aint acting like real ones...

Take care, be safe out there...

Oh stop it

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[3toheadmelo]

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2010 is a real one. Melo is a good kid that means well too.

2010 and Melo and1'd this post....You (Mecca) also agreed that you wouldn't provoke me/etc... By making this post you are indirectly talking to me/instigating/etc. I could have reported you- with what you said before- that's why you deleted the posts and agreed to not instigate anything in the future with me. Yet, look at what you are doing now

Melo, Brazilian Knick and 2010- are working together to create this narrative that I cause trouble drama etc...
However, if you look at the threads where said drama began you will find that I didnt fire the first shot. Not only that,
many GM's encouraged the "fighting"...
I ask that if any GM is bothered or annoyed by this constant back and forth- please look at the threads and you will see for yourself.
If you dont have time, I will compile a report on all three. I am guilty of- if you hit me- I will hit much harder.
If you are offended at my aggressiveness as a GM - then I am guilty of that. I thought we were pretending to
be GM's...I thought this was a competition...

As far as the things I am accused of by 2010 behind the scenes- if you guys keep trying to push this false and hypocritical narrative
you will leave me no choice but to post whats apps that will prove that 2010 and Melo are guilty of what they have accused me of.
As far as Brazilian knick's last post- its not accurate and I am willing to leave it alone but if he comes out again- I will break that situation down as well- with PM proof. I wrote to him got no response- thats fine but I will not stand here and take
anymore misinformation being posted about me.

Just to show you that I want peace in BAF- I am willing to move forward but if you guys can't be "real ones" then
you will force me to defend myself.

For the record, I have traded and dealt with 22 GM's and have had no issues with any of them... I have done over 70 trades and during the course
of that BK and I had an issue...Melos issue began with the disrespectful way that he addressed me, Mecca's issue goes way back and he came out of no where and disrespected me and 2010 as I mentioned before got mad because I challenged his knowledge of the sim and it spiraled- period...stop trying to make it bigger than that... Ya'll talk all of this real one stuff but aint acting like real ones...

Take care, be safe out there...

[2010]

This dude is a certified clown. Talking about he "hits much harder" and he is "aggressive". Everyone knows you soft as warm butter and you are cheeks. You ain't gonna do nothing but the things I predicted. Report, post screenshots, and talk-talk-talk.

Like I said. Wtf you gonna do? Post more screenshots? Do it, lol. That is your gun, gangsta ...but you definitely didn't want to pick up that horn.

I stand by everything I've said. I don't hide from my words. But you do. You claimed defamation. But now your argument is Melo, 2010, and Mecca do it too! So what you really want is company.

So post your screenshots. Do what you do.

The real issue is you are extremely butthurt. You claim me, Melo, BK, and Mecca are working together. You claim Smash is in a clique. You are a paranoid individual. You're resorting to keep track of and stalking and-1's. It shows what a maniac you are. You really don't have a life outside of BaF. People are sick and dying outside yet you mad at Mecca making a post and people he spoke positively of, and-1'ing it. Maniac schit. You can't control what anyone and-1's. Yet you tried to tell me I'm the one with the ego. You a weirdo.

The underlying element of our SIM discussion is I began to see you are a people user and a manipulator. You thought you were laying seeds, creating perceptions, trying to work in the shadows with other GMs (who were telling me what you were doing) trying to keep my team out of the playoff race via all kinds of moves, all to ensure you get a pick swap. While trying to act like you are a genuine homie on WhatsApp. That's not GM competitiveness. That's slimeball material. I've never befriended anyone with a private agenda.

I should have know you were a slimeball when you instigated and started the dislike between bowlrips and I, by sending me private screenshots of him talking negatively of me in the trade talks we held. That wasn't you being loyal. That was you attempting to curry favor. Cuz a real one wouldn't have screenshotted and said "don't say anything to him". A real one would either stay out of it, or not take issue with me addressing bowlrips directly due to your screenshot. But you a scumbag so you want to snitch, but not take the stand.

I support Melo's suggestion to vote on veto'ing this dude. We've always had good natured competitive barbing but it never got personal to trying to report eachother or get others banned. GM's quitting because of the presence of others. Constant screenshotting and sharing of private conversations. Which may even be against RealGM policy.

This guy needs to go. On top of it all, he makes bish's job harder with the constant overkill of trades. Lastly, he disclosed a fellow counterparts discrete financial contribution, in an attempt to shame him. Due to a personal beef. Which crosses a line. Now others who wish to donate may think twice about donating at all. For fear if the contribution isn't perceived as large enough, they will be shamed publicly in the future when this low life eventually is at odds with them too.

Lastly, to his secret allies. I would be very careful about communicating with him in PM or on social media platforms. This dude readily admits he will resort to screenshotting in an act of self-preservation. Again...you harbor worms you are basically dirt. And the worm always removes itself from dirt as soon as there is rainfall.

[Context]

This dude is a certified clown. Talking about he "hits much harder" and he is "aggressive". Everyone knows you soft as warm butter and you are cheeks. You ain't gonna do nothing but the things I predicted. Report, post screenshots, and talk-talk-talk.

Like I said. Wtf you gonna do? Post more screenshots? Do it, lol. That is your gun, gangsta ...but you definitely didn't want to pick up that horn.

I stand by everything I've said. I don't hide from my words. But you do. You claimed defamation. But now your argument is Melo, 2010, and Mecca do it too! So what you really want is company.

So post your screenshots. Do what you do.

The real issue is you are extremely butthurt. You resorting to keep track of and stalking and-1's. It shows what a maniac you are. You really don't have a life outside of BaF. People are sick and dying outside yet you mad at Mecca making a post and people he spoke positively of, and-1'ing it. Maniac schit. You can't control what anyone and-1's. Yet you tried to tell me I'm the one with the ego. You a weirdo.

The underlying element of our SIM discussion is I began to see you are a people user and a manipulator. You thought you were laying seeds, creating perceptions, trying to work in the shadows with other GMs (who were telling me what you were doing) trying to keep my team out of the playoff race via all kinds of moves, all to ensure you get a pick swap. While trying to act like you are a genuine homie on WhatsApp. That's not GM competitiveness. That's slimeball material. I've never befriended anyone with a private agenda.

I should have know you were a slimeball when you instigated and started the dislike between bowlrips and I, by sending me private screenshots of him talking negatively of me in the trade talks we held. That wasn't you being loyal. That was you attempting to curry favor. Cuz a real one wouldn't have screenshotted and said "don't say anything to him". A real one would either stay out of it, or not take issue with me addressing bowlrips directly due to your screenshot. But you a scumbag so you want to snitch, but not take the stand.

I support Melo's suggestion to vote on veto'ing this dude. We've always had good natured competitive barbing but it never got personal to trying to report eachother or get others banned. GM's quitting because of the presence of others. Constant screenshotting and sharing of private conversations. Which may even be against RealGM policy.

This guy needs to go. On top of it all, he makes bish's job harder with the constant overkill of trades. Lastly, he disclosed a fellow counterparts discrete financial contribution, in an attempt to shame him. Due to a personal beef. Which crosses a line. Now others who wish to donate may think twice about donating at all. For fear if the contribution isn't perceived as large enough, they will be shamed publicly in the future when this low life eventually is at odds with them too.

Lastly, to his secret allies. I would be very careful about communicating with him in PM or on social media platforms. This dude readily admits he will resort to screenshotting in an act of self-preservation. Again...you harbor worms you are basically dirt. And the worm always removes itself from dirt as soon as there is rainfall.

you are trying so hard to get me kicked out of this game...one thing that matters to me is your point about "shaming melo with what he donated". He asked for that to happen by publicly calling me broke. How you gonna call the poster who ran you down for months with his own time broke? disrespect him? etc... All of that came before I went in on Melo - but continue to push this false narrative...If you were a real one or friend to melo- you would tell him what he did was wrong- but you really dont understand it yourself I guess...

Just like you don't understand if you really want to go to war with someone you dont publicly threaten him on platforms
that can be accessed by law enforcement at any time now or in the future. I would be stupid to pursue any meeting with you
--another example of you're lack of experience...Stop indirectly inviting me to get in a violent exchange with you-
I am not biting...

Again, if all of the GM's feel that I am a problem so be it- it is what it is...Now your're trying to create a new narrative
that I turned you against Bowlrips You couldn't stand Bowl rips before I got in this game- got that all on whatsapp too
Not to mention, its in past threads as well...just stop it...

But I promised someone I wouldn't respond but I just wanted to let you know something. I see what you are doing.

I'm done responding to you 2010- you have turned out to be a fraud. From the minute you whats appd me
talking all that "thong ****" **** and being disrespectful because you are not certified - I knew I made a
mistake investing time in you on the internet. You -only YOU- have turned out to be a big fat snake. Yet, out of
respect to bish and the other gms on this board I wont expose you AND I wish you and your family nothing but good luck...

And for the record I am only responding to make sure that my name is clear with the other GM's but
keep on working at trying to get me removed from the game...

And again, I am willing to move forward in peace- stop with the defamation...because- in order for me to prove
defamation and hypocrisy on your part- it will take several posts and me derailing this thread...

[HEZI]

When you walk into the thread expecting bish to congratulate you on making the playoffs only to find out Eastern Conference teams with less wins than you are clinching before you are

[bishnykfan]

When you walk into the thread expecting bish to congratulate you on making the playoffs only to find out Eastern Conference teams with less wins than you are clinching before you are

Welcome to the West...

[2010]

My fellow GMs. Ask yourselves. All the personal beefs aside and staying relevant to the game.

Do we really want a fellow GM who has admitted that he will be tanking for the next several years. Who is refusing to stop playing guys out of position and withholding young long term pieces from their rotation for no reason at all. Even when their full strength team is likely gonna be in the lottery anyway.

Do we really want to deal with someone who let's feeling disrespected justify them breaking the code of revealing discreet financial contributions. And is still attempting to justify it.

Do we truly need to have a GM who solicits information about trade talks others are involved in, via PM? One who screenshots and shares private trade discussions regularly. Disregarding the confidentiality of private trade negotiation. One who uses that knowledge of discussions to manipulate trade talks behind other's backs to drive up the asking price or block pending deals. One who gets butthurt once I consistently told him I am no longer revealing trade talk elements to him (due to a loss of trust).

I have never denied I have benefitted from and even temporarily borrowed some of his tactics. I don't deny speaking negatively of GMs I don't have a rapport with due to unproductive trade talks. But the GMs I spoke unhighly of, I have addressed directly. I've been very vocal of my unfondness of their unresponsive trade talk habits. Or acknowledged past disagreements or beefs with others.

But I've never lied on anyone. Never tried to manipulate someone I consider cool enough to engage with outside of RealGM. Never posted private screenshots on the public forum.

I support the suggestion of taking a vote on Donald Sterling'ing him or not. As long as bish is cool with it. Let's see where our fellow Board of Governors stand.

But of bish doesn't think it's necessary or fellow GMs don't wish to hold a vote, then I am fine with that too.

But teams are fighting for playoff position and seeding. To have a team laying down in front of others while starting their best young players vs. one team, to manipulate the system is unethical. And he has no intention to stop.

[Context]

My fellow GMs. Ask yourselves. All the personal beefs aside and staying relevant to the game.

Do we really want a fellow GM who has admitted that he will be tanking for the next several years. Who is refusing to stop playing guys out of position and withholding young long term pieces from their rotation for no reason at all. Even when their full strength team is likely gonna be in the lottery anyway.

Do we really want to deal with someone who let's feeling disrespected justify them breaking the code of revealing discreet financial contributions. And is still attempting to justify it.

Do we truly need to have a GM who solicits information about trade talks others are involved in, via PM? One who screenshots and shares private trade discussions regularly. Disregarding the confidentiality of private trade negotiation. One who uses that knowledge of discussions to manipulate trade talks behind other's backs to drive up the asking price or block pending deals. One who gets butthurt once I consistently told him I am no longer revealing trade talk elements to him (due to a loss of trust).

I have never denied I have benefitted from and even temporarily borrowed some of his tactics. I don't deny speaking negatively of GMs I don't have a rapport with due to unproductive trade talks. But the GMs I spoke unhighly of, I have addressed directly. I've been very vocal of my unfondness of their unresponsive trade talk habits. Or acknowledged past disagreements or beefs with others.

But I've never lied on anyone. Never tried to manipulate someone I consider cool enough to engage with outside of RealGM. Never posted private screenshots on the public forum.

ok 2010...you asked for it...

Just for the record I havent done most of this stuff...

If I'm a bad GM thats not good for the game and a good amount of gms feel this way then fine but you will have accurate and truthful information to make said judgement...You dont have that now if you believe 2010...

[2010]

My fellow GMs. Ask yourselves. All the personal beefs aside and staying relevant to the game.

Do we really want a fellow GM who has admitted that he will be tanking for the next several years. Who is refusing to stop playing guys out of position and withholding young long term pieces from their rotation for no reason at all. Even when their full strength team is likely gonna be in the lottery anyway.

Do we really want to deal with someone who let's feeling disrespected justify them breaking the code of revealing discreet financial contributions. And is still attempting to justify it.

Do we truly need to have a GM who solicits information about trade talks others are involved in, via PM? One who screenshots and shares private trade discussions regularly. Disregarding the confidentiality of private trade negotiation. One who uses that knowledge of discussions to manipulate trade talks behind other's backs to drive up the asking price or block pending deals. One who gets butthurt once I consistently told him I am no longer revealing trade talk elements to him (due to a loss of trust).

I have never denied I have benefitted from and even temporarily borrowed some of his tactics. I don't deny speaking negatively of GMs I don't have a rapport with due to unproductive trade talks. But the GMs I spoke unhighly of, I have addressed directly. I've been very vocal of my unfondness of their unresponsive trade talk habits. Or acknowledged past disagreements or beefs with others.

But I've never lied on anyone. Never tried to manipulate someone I consider cool enough to engage with outside of RealGM. Never posted private screenshots on the public forum.

ok 2010...you asked for it...

Just for the record I havent done most of this stuff...

If I'm a bad GM thats not good for the game and a good amount of gms feel this way then fine but you will have accurate and truthful information to make said judgement...You dont have that now if you believe 2010...

You recently said you'd no longer respond to me. You also said you had me on ignore. You are a compulsive liar. No one can trust anything you say. You will always contradict yourself. Which is why he should be removed. He will never be reliable enough to keep his word. He will never stop the behavior we take issue with.

Bish, please let us know if holding a vote is fine or not.

[Mecca]

I would like to hold a vote.

[Context]

My fellow GMs. Ask yourselves. All the personal beefs aside and staying relevant to the game.

Do we really want a fellow GM who has admitted that he will be tanking for the next several years. Who is refusing to stop playing guys out of position and withholding young long term pieces from their rotation for no reason at all. Even when their full strength team is likely gonna be in the lottery anyway.

Do we really want to deal with someone who let's feeling disrespected justify them breaking the code of revealing discreet financial contributions. And is still attempting to justify it.

Do we truly need to have a GM who solicits information about trade talks others are involved in, via PM? One who screenshots and shares private trade discussions regularly. Disregarding the confidentiality of private trade negotiation. One who uses that knowledge of discussions to manipulate trade talks behind other's backs to drive up the asking price or block pending deals. One who gets butthurt once I consistently told him I am no longer revealing trade talk elements to him (due to a loss of trust).

I have never denied I have benefitted from and even temporarily borrowed some of his tactics. I don't deny speaking negatively of GMs I don't have a rapport with due to unproductive trade talks. But the GMs I spoke unhighly of, I have addressed directly. I've been very vocal of my unfondness of their unresponsive trade talk habits. Or acknowledged past disagreements or beefs with others.

But I've never lied on anyone. Never tried to manipulate someone I consider cool enough to engage with outside of RealGM. Never posted private screenshots on the public forum.

ok 2010...you asked for it...

Just for the record I havent done most of this stuff...

If I'm a bad GM thats not good for the game and a good amount of gms feel this way then fine but you will have accurate and truthful information to make said judgement...You dont have that now if you believe 2010...

You recently said you'd no longer respond to me. You also said you had me on ignore. You are a compulsive liar. No one can trust anything you say. You will always contradict yourself. Which is why he should be removed. He will never be reliable enough to keep his word. He will never stop the behavior we take issue with.

Bish, please let us know if holding a vote is fine or not.

I'm not going to sit here and allow you to post all of these lies. I'm not stupid

[2010]

I would like to hold a vote

[3toheadmelo]

I would like to hold a vote

[Context]

Do we really want a fellow GM who has admitted that he will be tanking for the next several years.

other gms have admitted to it as well- you cant single me out

Who is refusing to stop playing guys out of position and withholding young long term pieces from their rotation for no reason at all.
Even when their full strength team is likely gonna be in the lottery anyway.

the cavs did it for a significant portion of the season and as a result will have a lottery pick- even though they have two all stars
and several players that are on a young top 25 list...Mind you not one of my players fit that criteria yet you want to come after me

Do we really want to deal with someone who let's feeling disrespected justify them breaking the code of revealing discreet financial contributions. And is still attempting to justify it.

revealing what discreet contribution? his name is on the donation- anyone can see it- not to mention, he came at me several times before I went at him and then he THREATEN ME! you can't be serious--if a mod were threatened in the same manner he would have been banned- I just wanted him punished- you talk about crossing lines -Yet, you cant see that line that was crossed because it was your buddy...would love to see what others think on this..

Do we truly need to have a GM who solicits information about trade talks others are involved in, via PM?

what information? you mean when i ask GMs what theyre looking for and I tell other GM's? not sure what you are
referring to...

One who screenshots and shares private trade discussions regularly.

BK asked to have my RUI trade vetod- you told me you saw that- I showed you why he did it- with a screen shot- end of story.
he was mad at me and I wont reveal why -unless he comes at me again...but I wasnt in the wrong - ill tell you that much...
I never put it out in public but you did. Not to mention, you posted pms related to bowlrips but keep being a hypocrite...

Disregarding the confidentiality of private trade negotiation.

I dont do that at all...

One who uses that knowledge of discussions to manipulate trade talks behind other's backs to drive up the asking price or block pending deals.

have no idea what you are making reference to...

One who gets butthurt once I consistently told him I am no longer revealing trade talk elements to him (due to a loss of trust).

what lost of trust? lol you are a very insecure person- I never revealed any unannounced deals of yours to anyone- that was in your
mind and I wasnt butt hurt lol- I was having fun with you- atleast I thought I was smh- I see now what you really thought then...

I have never denied I have benefitted from and even temporarily borrowed some of his tactics.

oh so now you learned from me? you are something else You dont have a good memory - but dont worry - I'm going to remind you..im just goona wait on bish - because if i post what i have this will only make things worse...

I don't deny speaking negatively of GMs I don't have a rapport with due to unproductive trade talks. But the GMs I spoke unhighly of, I have addressed directly. I've been very vocal of my unfondness of their unresponsive trade talk habits. Or acknowledged past disagreements or beefs with others.

trying to cover your ass here huh...

But I've never lied on anyone. Never tried to manipulate someone I consider cool enough to engage with outside of RealGM. Never posted private screenshots on the public forum.

oh really now?

I support the suggestion of taking a vote on Donald Sterling'ing him or not. As long as bish is cool with it. Let's see where our fellow Board of Governors stand.

Like I didn't see this coming...It's funny but you cant take your own medicine...

But of bish doesn't think it's necessary or fellow GMs don't wish to hold a vote, then I am fine with that too.

you are going all out to get me out of here and if I post the whats apps you are going to be the same person to
call me a rat- etc...you make no sense...you are also putting others in positions as well- its what YOU do to make your point.
Thats what BK couldnt see- you potentially exposed him- but I wont reveal anything unless I have to...

But teams are fighting for playoff position and seeding. To have a team laying down in front of others while starting their best young players vs. one team, to manipulate the system is unethical. And he has no intention to stop.

That was against you and I wanted to make a point that it didnt make a difference who I played- I decided to do it against you
since you recently went out of your way to call me out on my line-ups...is that against the rules?

[DOT]

Spoiler:

Do we really want a fellow GM who has admitted that he will be tanking for the next several years.

other gms have admitted to it as well- you cant single me out

Who is refusing to stop playing guys out of position and withholding young long term pieces from their rotation for no reason at all.
Even when their full strength team is likely gonna be in the lottery anyway.

the cavs did it for a significant portion of the season and as a result will have a lottery pick- even though they have two all stars
and several players that are on a young top 25 list...Mind you not one of my players fit that criteria yet you want to come after me

Do we really want to deal with someone who let's feeling disrespected justify them breaking the code of revealing discreet financial contributions. And is still attempting to justify it.

revealing what discreet contribution? his name is on the donation- anyone can see it- not to mention, he came at me several times before I went at him and then he THREATEN ME! you can be serious--if a mod were threatened in the same manner he would have been banned- I just wanted him punished- you talk about crossing lines -Yet, you cant see that line that was crossed because it was your buddy...would love to see what others think on this..

Do we truly need to have a GM who solicits information about trade talks others are involved in, via PM?

what information? you mean when i ask GMs what theyre looking for and I tell other GM's? not sure what you are
referring to...

One who screenshots and shares private trade discussions regularly.

BK asked to have my RUI trade vetod- you told me you saw that- I showed you why he did it- with a screen shot- end of story.
he was mad at me and I wont reveal why -unless he comes at me again...but I wasnt in the wrong - ill tell you that much...
I never put it out in public but you did. Not to mention, you posted pms related to bowlrips but keep being a hypocrite...

Disregarding the confidentiality of private trade negotiation.

I dont do that at all...

One who uses that knowledge of discussions to manipulate trade talks behind other's backs to drive up the asking price or block pending deals.

have no idea what you are making reference to...

One who gets butthurt once I consistently told him I am no longer revealing trade talk elements to him (due to a loss of trust).

what lost of trust? lol you are a very insecure person- I never revealed any unannounced deals of yours to anyone- that was in your
mind and I wasnt butt hurt lol- I was having fun with you- atleast I thought I was smh- I see now what you really thought then...

I have never denied I have benefitted from and even temporarily borrowed some of his tactics.

oh so now you learned from me? you are something else You dont have a good memory - but dont worry - I'm going to remind you..im just goona wait on bish - because if i post what i have this will only make things worse...

I don't deny speaking negatively of GMs I don't have a rapport with due to unproductive trade talks. But the GMs I spoke unhighly of, I have addressed directly. I've been very vocal of my unfondness of their unresponsive trade talk habits. Or acknowledged past disagreements or beefs with others.

trying to cover your ass here huh...

But I've never lied on anyone. Never tried to manipulate someone I consider cool enough to engage with outside of RealGM. Never posted private screenshots on the public forum.

oh really now?

I support the suggestion of taking a vote on Donald Sterling'ing him or not. As long as bish is cool with it. Let's see where our fellow Board of Governors stand.

Like I didn't see this coming...It's funny but you cant take your own medicine...

But of bish doesn't think it's necessary or fellow GMs don't wish to hold a vote, then I am fine with that too.

you are going all out to get me out of here and if I post the whats apps you are going to be the same person to
call me a rat- etc...you make no sense...you are also putting others in positions as well- its what YOU do to make your point.
Thats what BK couldnt see- you potentially exposed him- but I wont reveal anything unless I have to...

But teams are fighting for playoff position and seeding. To have a team laying down in front of others while starting their best young players vs. one team, to manipulate the system is unethical. And he has no intention to stop.

That was against you and I wanted to make a point that it didnt make a difference who I played- I decided to do it against you
since you recently went out of your way to call me out on my line-ups...is that against the rules?

I thought you were done responding?

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Spoiler:

Do we really want a fellow GM who has admitted that he will be tanking for the next several years.

other gms have admitted to it as well- you cant single me out

Who is refusing to stop playing guys out of position and withholding young long term pieces from their rotation for no reason at all.
Even when their full strength team is likely gonna be in the lottery anyway.

the cavs did it for a significant portion of the season and as a result will have a lottery pick- even though they have two all stars
and several players that are on a young top 25 list...Mind you not one of my players fit that criteria yet you want to come after me

Do we really want to deal with someone who let's feeling disrespected justify them breaking the code of revealing discreet financial contributions. And is still attempting to justify it.

revealing what discreet contribution? his name is on the donation- anyone can see it- not to mention, he came at me several times before I went at him and then he THREATEN ME! you can be serious--if a mod were threatened in the same manner he would have been banned- I just wanted him punished- you talk about crossing lines -Yet, you cant see that line that was crossed because it was your buddy...would love to see what others think on this..

Do we truly need to have a GM who solicits information about trade talks others are involved in, via PM?

what information? you mean when i ask GMs what theyre looking for and I tell other GM's? not sure what you are
referring to...

One who screenshots and shares private trade discussions regularly.

BK asked to have my RUI trade vetod- you told me you saw that- I showed you why he did it- with a screen shot- end of story.
he was mad at me and I wont reveal why -unless he comes at me again...but I wasnt in the wrong - ill tell you that much...
I never put it out in public but you did. Not to mention, you posted pms related to bowlrips but keep being a hypocrite...

Disregarding the confidentiality of private trade negotiation.

I dont do that at all...

One who uses that knowledge of discussions to manipulate trade talks behind other's backs to drive up the asking price or block pending deals.

have no idea what you are making reference to...

One who gets butthurt once I consistently told him I am no longer revealing trade talk elements to him (due to a loss of trust).

what lost of trust? lol you are a very insecure person- I never revealed any unannounced deals of yours to anyone- that was in your
mind and I wasnt butt hurt lol- I was having fun with you- atleast I thought I was smh- I see now what you really thought then...

I have never denied I have benefitted from and even temporarily borrowed some of his tactics.

oh so now you learned from me? you are something else You dont have a good memory - but dont worry - I'm going to remind you..im just goona wait on bish - because if i post what i have this will only make things worse...

I don't deny speaking negatively of GMs I don't have a rapport with due to unproductive trade talks. But the GMs I spoke unhighly of, I have addressed directly. I've been very vocal of my unfondness of their unresponsive trade talk habits. Or acknowledged past disagreements or beefs with others.

trying to cover your ass here huh...

But I've never lied on anyone. Never tried to manipulate someone I consider cool enough to engage with outside of RealGM. Never posted private screenshots on the public forum.

oh really now?

I support the suggestion of taking a vote on Donald Sterling'ing him or not. As long as bish is cool with it. Let's see where our fellow Board of Governors stand.

Like I didn't see this coming...It's funny but you cant take your own medicine...

But of bish doesn't think it's necessary or fellow GMs don't wish to hold a vote, then I am fine with that too.

you are going all out to get me out of here and if I post the whats apps you are going to be the same person to
call me a rat- etc...you make no sense...you are also putting others in positions as well- its what YOU do to make your point.
Thats what BK couldnt see- you potentially exposed him- but I wont reveal anything unless I have to...

But teams are fighting for playoff position and seeding. To have a team laying down in front of others while starting their best young players vs. one team, to manipulate the system is unethical. And he has no intention to stop.

That was against you and I wanted to make a point that it didnt make a difference who I played- I decided to do it against you
since you recently went out of your way to call me out on my line-ups...is that against the rules?

I thought you were done responding?

what should i do dot? hes posting lies about me and trying to get me thrown out of the game? you tell me...I dont want to disrupt the game but no one is stopping him...im willing to follow the rules and be peaceful...

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I benched my starters for 1 month. Not a significant amount of the season. My intentions was never to tank and get a number one pick when I already have a great amount of talent on my team. I did it to evaluate other players and try to understand the SIM better. Stop lying to everyone. When I did benched my starters I was already in the lottery. Since I did that, I found out point BAM is a beast and I have started my best players along with point bam to have the best possible chance of winning and trying to get into the playoffs. As a result, my team is still ass but I am not going out like a coward like context and tanking shamelessly which is affecting other teams trying to reach into the playoffs as well.

Let’s not forget that this dude was in my PM telling me I’m gonna “f*ck up his food” cause he directly admitted to me that he is going to tank for the next couple of years.

**** like this is why he should get kicked out the game. He is always starting lies and creating drama to defend himself.