Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason!

[F N 11]

Cap space is an asset. Let’s see how we use it.

[City of Trees]

Hield/12 for Randle/8

Thoughts?

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[DaGawd]

Hield/12 for Randle/8

Thoughts?

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Hield and 12 for Randle and 27 or gtfo

[Juco24]

Hield/12 for Randle/8

Thoughts?

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Is this an actual rumor or trade idea? I'd personally take it. Could nab Precious or Williams with the 12th pick. Hield could be the spacer we need for RJ to flourish

[moocow007]

Hield/12 for Randle/8

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Why are so many Kings fans looking to trade Hield. Begs the question "whats wrong with him?" Kinda like with Randle. Stats look great.

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[City of Trees]

Hield/12 for Randle/8

Thoughts?

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Why are so many Kings fans looking to trade Hield. Begs the question "whats wrong with him?" Kinda like with Randle. Stats look great.

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Vlade's regime likely was going to keep Bogdan Bogdanovic and start him over Buddy.

Buddy doesn't want to come off the bench thus the rumors of trades began.

Buddy has been pretty open about wanting to start.

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[City of Trees]

Hield/12 for Randle/8

Thoughts?

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Is this an actual rumor or trade idea? I'd personally take it. Could nab Precious or Williams with the 12th pick. Hield could be the spacer we need for RJ to flourish

Just an idea of mine.

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[nyk2017]

Hield/12 for Randle/8

Thoughts?

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We would do it in a heartbeat, but Sac would probably want more. I have a feeling that if Philly hired D’Antoni that they would push for Hield. much better fit for Philly in place of Harris

[WargamesX]

So If D’antoni goes to Philly. We could probably highjack them for assets to take on Horford.

There is a lot of options there. We could Potentially swap Randle, ask for this years pick #21 and probably one of their young players.

Maybe even Thybulle, who doesn’t fit D’antoni’s system but could come in and help the Knicks immediately since they are going to be defense oriented.

Moving Horford has to be a priority for them and on the low we would be one of the few teams that can do it, and give them cap relief now and even more next year. We could also send them #27 with Randle so they could still try and grab a player in this years draft.

It’s makes a lot of sense for us, except we would be stuck with Horford. But moving up, getting a good player..... it might be worth it.

[SuperflyKnick]

So If D’antoni goes to Philly. We could probably highjack them for assets to take on Horford.

There is a lot of options there. We could Potentially swap Randle, ask for this years pick #21 and probably one of their young players.

Maybe even Thybulle, who doesn’t fit D’antoni’s system but could come in and help the Knicks immediately since they are going to be defense oriented.

Moving Horford has to be a priority for them and on the low we would be one of the few teams that can do it, and give them cap relief now and even more next year. We could also send them #27 with Randle so they could still try and grab a player in this years draft.

It’s makes a lot of sense for us, except we would be stuck with Horford. But moving up, getting a good player..... it might be worth it.

Getting the 21st pick in a weak draft and taking on 3 yrs of salary isn't really worth it. With the way season is going I'm sure the Knicks can offer cash a 2nd rd pk and buy a first rd pick....

[moocow007]

So If D’antoni goes to Philly. We could probably highjack them for assets to take on Horford.

There is a lot of options there. We could Potentially swap Randle, ask for this years pick #21 and probably one of their young players.

Maybe even Thybulle, who doesn’t fit D’antoni’s system but could come in and help the Knicks immediately since they are going to be defense oriented.

Moving Horford has to be a priority for them and on the low we would be one of the few teams that can do it, and give them cap relief now and even more next year. We could also send them #27 with Randle so they could still try and grab a player in this years draft.

It’s makes a lot of sense for us, except we would be stuck with Horford. But moving up, getting a good player..... it might be worth it.

Horfords contract is brutal (3 years $80 million) and they have absolutely no need for an $80 million backup C with a ton of mileage on his body. The Knicks can probably buy a 1st rounder in that range for $3 million. Thybulle isn't worth anywhere remotely near the other 3 years $77 million. The only 2 Sixers that would be worth taking Horfords contract is Simmons and Embiid. And you want us to give the Sixers the Clippers pick? More like the Sixers will need to be giving the Knicks multiple future picks and pick swaps.

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[WargamesX]

So If D’antoni goes to Philly. We could probably highjack them for assets to take on Horford.

There is a lot of options there. We could Potentially swap Randle, ask for this years pick #21 and probably one of their young players.

Maybe even Thybulle, who doesn’t fit D’antoni’s system but could come in and help the Knicks immediately since they are going to be defense oriented.

Moving Horford has to be a priority for them and on the low we would be one of the few teams that can do it, and give them cap relief now and even more next year. We could also send them #27 with Randle so they could still try and grab a player in this years draft.

It’s makes a lot of sense for us, except we would be stuck with Horford. But moving up, getting a good player..... it might be worth it.

Horfords contract is brutal (3 years $80 million) and they have absolutely no need for him. The Knicks can probably buy a 1st rounder in that range for $3 million. Thybulle isn't worth anywhere remotely near the other 3 years $77 million. The only 2 Sixers that would be worth taking Horfords contract is Simmons and Embiid.

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Idk, if anything we could probably get more than #21, and Thybulle.

Like the contract is bad, but our team is so young we could rob them bare and not stress because our team has to develop during those years. Also Horford’s skillset of scoring from the elbow traditionally fits into what Thibs likes to do with his bigs and we don’t have anyone on the roster who can do those things. I legit think he was a bad fit for the 76ers. Moving Harris to the 4 makes sense.

If Horford gets his groove back, and we come away with Thybulle and #21. It could be a real come up and we would still have money to chase FVV.

[thebuzzardman]

So If D’antoni goes to Philly. We could probably highjack them for assets to take on Horford.

There is a lot of options there. We could Potentially swap Randle, ask for this years pick #21 and probably one of their young players.

Maybe even Thybulle, who doesn’t fit D’antoni’s system but could come in and help the Knicks immediately since they are going to be defense oriented.

Moving Horford has to be a priority for them and on the low we would be one of the few teams that can do it, and give them cap relief now and even more next year. We could also send them #27 with Randle so they could still try and grab a player in this years draft.

It’s makes a lot of sense for us, except we would be stuck with Horford. But moving up, getting a good player..... it might be worth it.

Horfords contract is brutal (3 years $80 million) and they have absolutely no need for an $80 million backup C with a ton of mileage on his body. The Knicks can probably buy a 1st rounder in that range for $3 million. Thybulle isn't worth anywhere remotely near the other 3 years $77 million. The only 2 Sixers that would be worth taking Horfords contract is Simmons and Embiid. And you want us to give the Sixers the Clippers pick? More like the Sixers will need to be giving the Knicks multiple future picks and pick swaps.

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I'm for using cap space for assets but that's a lot of contract for not much in the way of a pick. If there were future picks involved too? Maybe. Probably not even.

[moocow007]

So If D’antoni goes to Philly. We could probably highjack them for assets to take on Horford.

There is a lot of options there. We could Potentially swap Randle, ask for this years pick #21 and probably one of their young players.

Maybe even Thybulle, who doesn’t fit D’antoni’s system but could come in and help the Knicks immediately since they are going to be defense oriented.

Moving Horford has to be a priority for them and on the low we would be one of the few teams that can do it, and give them cap relief now and even more next year. We could also send them #27 with Randle so they could still try and grab a player in this years draft.

It’s makes a lot of sense for us, except we would be stuck with Horford. But moving up, getting a good player..... it might be worth it.

Horfords contract is brutal (3 years $80 million) and they have absolutely no need for an $80 million backup C with a ton of mileage on his body. The Knicks can probably buy a 1st rounder in that range for $3 million. Thybulle isn't worth anywhere remotely near the other 3 years $77 million. The only 2 Sixers that would be worth taking Horfords contract is Simmons and Embiid. And you want us to give the Sixers the Clippers pick? More like the Sixers will need to be giving the Knicks multiple future picks and pick swaps.

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I'm for using cap space for assets but that's a lot of contract for not much in the way of a pick. If there were future picks involved too? Maybe. Probably not even.

Yeah its not enough.

Especially in an economic climate like this brought on by covid the "value" of helping another team shed dead weight contracts has only increased.

There is no reason to not get a premium from another team for taking on a mega contract like Horfords.

That $27 million TPE that the Knicks would give a team like the Sixers (who are in some direction straights right now) by taking Horfords contract off their hands is HUGE.

Would take multiple unprotected 1st round picks for me to do it if I were the Knicks.

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[spree2kawhi]

Hield for Randle, Grant in FA. He opts out.

Haliburton/Frank
Hield
RJ
Grant
Mitch

Let's go. Get it done.

[the_antz_nest]

Hield for Randle, Grant in FA. He opts out.

Haliburton/Frank
Hield
RJ
Grant
Mitch

Let's go. Get it done.

This has been my 2k my league offseason for multiple save files... lol

Would love to get heild and adding in Grant would be great. I don’t see grant moving to us though I’d prefer to take a chance on wood.

[YungKnicks]

Hield/12 for Randle/8

Thoughts?

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Hield and 12 for Randle and 27 or gtfo

Knick fan here, Honestly you all know thats not a fair trade. But I want do it at all because I don't want Knicks to sign anyone until next FA class.

[YungKnicks]

I dont want knicks signing or trading for anyone pass this off season. I seriously rather pay Vince Carter, Jamaal Crawford, T. Gibson etc.. 1 yr 15million contacts to ride the bench and mentor our youth, especially for RJ.

Then only sign young players (25yrs and under) to 1 yr (2nd yr Team Option) contracts. Ex. Harry Giles, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Josh Jackson, Lamer Peters, Wooten etc...

[moocow007]

I dont want knicks signing or trading for anyone pass this off season. I seriously rather pay Vince Carter, Jamaal Crawford, T. Gibson etc.. 1 yr 15million contacts to ride the bench and mentor our youth, especially for RJ.

Then only sign young players (25yrs and under) to 1 yr (2nd yr Team Option) contracts. Ex. Harry Giles, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Josh Jackson, Lamer Peters, Wooten etc...

I kinda get what you're saying but it's not so much not signing or trading for me. Instead, I don't want the Knicks to overpay for any player. This includes role players on great teams coming off career years or one dimensional "shooters" cause we gots to get some cuz that's how we win types. Spending money on FA is fine but it has to be great value signings. Trading for players is fine but it has to be great value trades. Value signings and trades will allow you to shed those contracts if a need arises. It's the players tagged to meaty heavyweight contracts that are the problem. That's what kills your flexibility not just having players on contracts beyond the year.

An example is FVV. FVV at what it's going to take is not a value signing. FVV at what's it's likely going to take leaves no room for wiggling so if he doesn't live up to expectations for whatever reason like him not being able to carry the load as a no.1 option (something that he was NOT for the Raptors but will have to be for the Knicks). Poor value contracts are hard to move even if the player is very good. The Knicks need to find the next Fred Van Vleet before he became FVV. That would be a good get.

Good thing is with Walt Perrin coming over from Utah, there is hope that the Knicks will be able to ID the value guys in the draft, in free agency and via any trade opportunities. That's how top franchises operate. Not by drafting, signing and trading for the obvious.

[YungKnicks]

I dont want knicks signing or trading for anyone pass this off season. I seriously rather pay Vince Carter, Jamaal Crawford, T. Gibson etc.. 1 yr 15million contacts to ride the bench and mentor our youth, especially for RJ.

Then only sign young players (25yrs and under) to 1 yr (2nd yr Team Option) contracts. Ex. Harry Giles, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Josh Jackson, Lamer Peters, Wooten etc...

I kinda get what you're saying but it's not so much not signing or trading for me. Instead, I don't want the Knicks to overpay for any player. This includes role players on great teams coming off career years or one dimensional "shooters" cause we gots to get some cuz that's how we win types. Spending money on FA is fine but it has to be great value signings. Trading for players is fine but it has to be great value trades. Value signings and trades will allow you to shed those contracts if a need arises. It's the players tagged to meaty heavyweight contracts that are the problem. That's what kills your flexibility not just having players on contracts beyond the year.

An example is FVV. FVV at what it's going to take is not a value signing. FVV at what's it's likely going to take leaves no room for wiggling so if he doesn't live up to expectations for whatever reason like him not being able to carry the load as a no.1 option (something that he was NOT for the Raptors but will have to be for the Knicks). Poor value contracts are hard to move even if the player is very good. The Knicks need to find the next Fred Van Vleet before he became FVV. That would be a good get.

Good thing is with Walt Perrin coming over from Utah, there is hope that the Knicks will be able to ID the value guys in the draft, in free agency and via any trade opportunities. That's how top franchises operate. Not by drafting, signing and trading for the obvious.

Yea, like Christian Woods, love the guy, wanted knicks to sign him/call up two years ago. Want him here but we shouldn't give him a $18+ million per.... 5 year contract

Yea my mind set is on development and finding the diamonds in the rough, finding the FVV, etc...I don't even care if we don't win more than 10 games next year, just want good improvement by our young guys (RJ dropping 20+ppg on good %, Mitch shooting from outside and dribbling, and everyone else good shooters and defenders), a Top 3 pick with a boat load of cap space for 2021. That's all i'm looking for.