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OT: Democratic Primary Thread

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Who are you voting for?

Poll ended at Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:48 pm

Joe Biden - I have no idea why, and I also forgot what year it is
18
28%
Bernie Sanders - I am an intelligent human being, and understand Sanders is our last hope and America needs him
38
58%
Tulsi Gabbard (Dropped Out) - Ringo Starr is also my favorite Beatle
9
14%
 
Total votes: 65

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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1821 » by Pointgod » Fri Jul 3, 2020 3:44 am

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HarthorneWingo wrote:Did you watch the Netflix movie?


No, don't know it


Watch it. It’s disturbing but pretty much paints a picture into how people like Epstein were able to operate and get away with what they did.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1822 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jul 3, 2020 5:35 am

Pointgod wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Did you watch the Netflix movie?


No, don't know it


Watch it. It’s disturbing but pretty much paints a picture into how people like Epstein were able to operate and get away with what they did.


Does is show Dershowitz getting blown by a 16 year old?
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1823 » by Pointgod » Fri Jul 3, 2020 1:49 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
No, don't know it


Watch it. It’s disturbing but pretty much paints a picture into how people like Epstein were able to operate and get away with what they did.


Does is show Dershowitz getting blown by a 16 year old?


I don’t know why Dershowitz thought it was a good idea be in the documentary. If someone else suggested it, that person needs to be fired. Let’s put it this way, Dershowitz comes off as a bigger piece of **** than before, if you can believe that.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1824 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jul 3, 2020 6:17 pm

Alumni of George W. Bush administration launch pro-Biden super PAC

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Hundreds of former members of the George W. Bush administration have formed a super PAC to support former Vice President Joe Biden, saying they are alarmed by President Trump’s conduct in office.

The group, dubbed 43 Alumni for Joe Biden, officially launched Wednesday. The group includes former Cabinet officials and other senior administration members who say they think the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee can “restore dignity” to the White House.

“We’re looking for the largest conglomerate of folks who want to help, whether it’s writing a check, making phone calls, helping to get out the vote, basic campaign 101. We just feel the time now is to restore dignity to the White House, and the current gentleman is not, so that’s why we’re supporting Joe Biden,” said Jennifer Millikin, a committee member of the group who served in the General Services Administration under Bush and the Small Business Administration under Trump.

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Members of the group began reaching out to other alumni early last month and saw a quick response among former staffers who were uncomfortable with the Trump administration. The super PAC intends to make public some of its high-profile members in the coming weeks.

“We’ve only been active since June 2, so less than a month, and we have hundreds of former W alumni that are living nationwide and have worked at every single agency including the White House when we were there,” Millikin said in an interview.

“The one common theme between us all is that we understand what it was like working for an administration. We know right now it’s not like that,” she added.

The creation of the group comes amid mounting criticism of Trump over his handling of the coronavirus pandemic, a cratering economy and civil unrest over systemic racism and police brutality. The president has seen his approval numbers sink, and some recent surveys have shown Trump trailing Biden by double digits.

43 Alumni for Biden joins a slate of other GOP groups that have formed to oppose Trump, including The Lincoln Project, which has seen its profile rise over its biting attack ads against Trump.

The newest super PAC intends to separate itself from other groups by solely focusing on positive messages to reinforce Biden’s campaign.

“We are the only group within these other groups that were all 43 alums,” said Millikin. “And unlike ... The Lincoln Project and the other groups that we know of, they’re spending tons of money on ads and things of that nature, which is great. We’re going to raise money as well, we’re a super PAC, but our focus is not negative.”

“We just want to focus on the positives, and the positive message to us is we need a gentleman who actually acts like a leader and, again, restores dignity.”

The super PAC's specific efforts, which will be rolled out in the coming weeks, will focus on the key swing states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida and Ohio and are expected to include a get-out-the-vote campaign and events to connect disaffected Republicans who may consider supporting Biden. The group will also release testimonial videos from high-profile Republicans praising Biden.

Millikin admitted that many of the super PAC's members do not agree with all of Biden’s policies but believe that the former vice president has the right demeanor to serve as president.

“He’s a good man,” she said. “We as a group have policy differences with him. We’re just looking to have someone in the office who will stand up and act like a leader. We can debate the differences in the way we think about policies, we can have a robust debate, that’s what America’s for. But that’s not happening now, and we feel it will definitely happen with Joe Biden in office.”

The Trump campaign dismissed the new super PAC, painting it as a creature of the Washington establishment that is trying to take down the president.

“This is the swamp — yet again — trying to take down the duly elected President of the United States,” Erin Perrine, a Trump campaign spokeswoman, told Reuters, which was the first to report on the group’s formation.

This is a good example of the GOP continuing to shed support, many of whom won't vote Republican again if the party remains as it is.

I can see a libertarian third party getting some support in the next five years.

With so many younger Americans identifying as left, I think it means either

(a) the Democratic party goes left and accommodates them;

(b) a leftist third party will grow in stature; and/or

(c) some currently identifying as left may discover common cause with libertarians and work on their third party, though it will be more conservative than left

Not sure if any third party will gain power soon, but the Democrats either get their act together and they serve the demographic shift and youth vote in the future or they don't.

I do think we'll eventually have third and fourth parties that do start to put people into positions statewide and congressionally. Once that happens, all it takes is an alternate party to run for the presidency and then win to upend the apple cart.

Looking to see if disaffected Republicans try to reclaim their party and vote out the Trumpers and tea baggers or start their own libertarian/conservative third party.

Not sure what American leftists are going to build at this point. The Democratic party could transform significantly in the next decade and serve the public. If they pass campaign finance reform, then the Democrats could become a home for the left. History changes parties over time. We're probably entering one of those tide shifts.

I'd guessing a libertarian third party that pulls from independents and people from both parties could end up becoming the Democrats biggest opposition in a decade or less while the GOP hobbles along as a weaker player.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1825 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jul 3, 2020 6:43 pm

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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1826 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jul 3, 2020 6:59 pm

McConnell has put Trump on notice. If he doesn't get his polls up this Summer the Republicans up for election are going to disavow him this Fall leading up to the election and/or Mitch is going to try to (a) force Trump out of the WH via 25th Amendment or resignation or (b) by Trump removing himself from the ticket while serving out his term.

The wild card is Trump, because he may tell Mitch to pound sand and force them to try and get his cabinet to invoke the 25th and that is not guaranteed to work. I think so many of his cabinet are complicit in Trump's crime spree they may not want to take him down.

Since Trump has doubled down on feeding red meat to his racist base and Rona is not letting up anytime soon, he is NOT going to miraculously gain back over 5% of the voting public and draw even by November.

So wild card # 2 is what komprommat Mitch has on Trump and is he willing to use it, because I'm assuming Trump and Putin have komprommat on Mitch too. So this is going to turn into a stare down.

Mitch didn't leak his intentions because he might want Trump to step down. He did it because he clearly wants that to happen. The only person he is signaling with this news is Trump himself. Mitch is giving him a head's up and the option to remove himself from the ticket or resign before they come to blows over this in August or September.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1827 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jul 3, 2020 9:23 pm

Pointgod wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Watch it. It’s disturbing but pretty much paints a picture into how people like Epstein were able to operate and get away with what they did.


Does is show Dershowitz getting blown by a 16 year old?


I don’t know why Dershowitz thought it was a good idea be in the documentary. If someone else suggested it, that person needs to be fired. Let’s put it this way, Dershowitz comes off as a bigger piece of **** than before, if you can believe that.


:lol: I'll put in on tonight's watch list.
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Post#1828 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jul 3, 2020 11:07 pm

I know it should be fairly obvious by now, but it kind of just dawned on me that Donald Trump Jr. is turning out to be pretty much a clone of his father, a whiny know-nothing chit talker who spews trash to get attention. And I shuddered at the thought of this clown getting attention for 30-40 years as the legacy bearer of his father. I hope this election banishes them all from the limelight and into jail cells at best.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1829 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jul 3, 2020 11:31 pm

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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1830 » by Jeffrey » Fri Jul 3, 2020 11:50 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:McConnell has put Trump on notice. If he doesn't get his polls up this Summer the Republicans up for election are going to disavow him this Fall leading up to the election and/or Mitch is going to try to (a) force Trump out of the WH via 25th Amendment or resignation or (b) by Trump removing himself from the ticket while serving out his term.

The wild card is Trump, because he may tell Mitch to pound sand and force them to try and get his cabinet to invoke the 25th and that is not guaranteed to work. I think so many of his cabinet are complicit in Trump's crime spree they may not want to take him down.

Since Trump has doubled down on feeding red meat to his racist base and Rona is not letting up anytime soon, he is NOT going to miraculously gain back over 5% of the voting public and draw even by November.

So wild card # 2 is what komprommat Mitch has on Trump and is he willing to use it, because I'm assuming Trump and Putin have komprommat on Mitch too. So this is going to turn into a stare down.

Mitch didn't leak his intentions because he might want Trump to step down. He did it because he clearly wants that to happen. The only person he is signaling with this news is Trump himself. Mitch is giving him a head's up and the option to remove himself from the ticket or resign before they come to blows over this in August or September.


At this point Dems shouldn't impeach Trump again because you know the Senate will quickly impeach him so Pence can pardon for all charges. Then they will try to do a huge blanket to pardon for any future or past crimes.

As for the Republicans, if the polls aren't good they will want to push him out ASAP and then have Pence pardon him for all charges. They will still lose the Presidency but it's all about the Senate now.

In the end, Republicans now see that this is a sinking ship. They want to cover up GOPs giving billions to their friends, Trump pretty much muzzled so they can continue their charades.

Dems will be stupid to fall for that. They should go on TV and tell the American ppl that if we go through another impeachment hearing or Republicans try to remove him, it will be a blanket pardon. Dems need to Project what REpublicans are going to do. Stop pouting about how "this is not normal"... in fact THIS IS NOW OUR NORMALCY.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1831 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jul 4, 2020 12:22 am

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Clyde_Style wrote:McConnell has put Trump on notice. If he doesn't get his polls up this Summer the Republicans up for election are going to disavow him this Fall leading up to the election and/or Mitch is going to try to (a) force Trump out of the WH via 25th Amendment or resignation or (b) by Trump removing himself from the ticket while serving out his term.

The wild card is Trump, because he may tell Mitch to pound sand and force them to try and get his cabinet to invoke the 25th and that is not guaranteed to work. I think so many of his cabinet are complicit in Trump's crime spree they may not want to take him down.

Since Trump has doubled down on feeding red meat to his racist base and Rona is not letting up anytime soon, he is NOT going to miraculously gain back over 5% of the voting public and draw even by November.

So wild card # 2 is what komprommat Mitch has on Trump and is he willing to use it, because I'm assuming Trump and Putin have komprommat on Mitch too. So this is going to turn into a stare down.

Mitch didn't leak his intentions because he might want Trump to step down. He did it because he clearly wants that to happen. The only person he is signaling with this news is Trump himself. Mitch is giving him a head's up and the option to remove himself from the ticket or resign before they come to blows over this in August or September.


At this point Dems shouldn't impeach Trump again because you know the Senate will quickly impeach him so Pence can pardon for all charges. Then they will try to do a huge blanket to pardon for any future or past crimes.

As for the Republicans, if the polls aren't good they will want to push him out ASAP and then have Pence pardon him for all charges. They will still lose the Presidency but it's all about the Senate now.

In the end, Republicans now see that this is a sinking ship. They want to cover up GOPs giving billions to their friends, Trump pretty much muzzled so they can continue their charades.

Dems will be stupid to fall for that. They should go on TV and tell the American ppl that if we go through another impeachment hearing or Republicans try to remove him, it will be a blanket pardon. Dems need to Project what REpublicans are going to do. Stop pouting about how "this is not normal"... in fact THIS IS NOW OUR NORMALCY.


Yeah, I already covered that scenario a week or two ago. I don't expect Pelosi to pursue impeachment charges against Trump. She won't fall into that trap. She knows Trump is now her Easter Bunny that will deliver a landslide so she is not going to gift Mitch with an impeachment.

They are however exploring impeachment hearings against Barr and they can go ahead with that and they probably should. It at least roadblocks Barr from doing more damage.

Pence is a co-conspirator which makes pardoning Trump potentially a crime in itself. They may try it, but it will be contested in court. It still won't in any way protect Trump from prosecution on state charges. Federal pardons can't save Trump from indictments.

This is not at all comparable to Ford pardoning Nixon. Ford was not a co-conspirator.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1832 » by Jeffrey » Sat Jul 4, 2020 1:05 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:McConnell has put Trump on notice. If he doesn't get his polls up this Summer the Republicans up for election are going to disavow him this Fall leading up to the election and/or Mitch is going to try to (a) force Trump out of the WH via 25th Amendment or resignation or (b) by Trump removing himself from the ticket while serving out his term.

The wild card is Trump, because he may tell Mitch to pound sand and force them to try and get his cabinet to invoke the 25th and that is not guaranteed to work. I think so many of his cabinet are complicit in Trump's crime spree they may not want to take him down.

Since Trump has doubled down on feeding red meat to his racist base and Rona is not letting up anytime soon, he is NOT going to miraculously gain back over 5% of the voting public and draw even by November.

So wild card # 2 is what komprommat Mitch has on Trump and is he willing to use it, because I'm assuming Trump and Putin have komprommat on Mitch too. So this is going to turn into a stare down.

Mitch didn't leak his intentions because he might want Trump to step down. He did it because he clearly wants that to happen. The only person he is signaling with this news is Trump himself. Mitch is giving him a head's up and the option to remove himself from the ticket or resign before they come to blows over this in August or September.


At this point Dems shouldn't impeach Trump again because you know the Senate will quickly impeach him so Pence can pardon for all charges. Then they will try to do a huge blanket to pardon for any future or past crimes.

As for the Republicans, if the polls aren't good they will want to push him out ASAP and then have Pence pardon him for all charges. They will still lose the Presidency but it's all about the Senate now.

In the end, Republicans now see that this is a sinking ship. They want to cover up GOPs giving billions to their friends, Trump pretty much muzzled so they can continue their charades.

Dems will be stupid to fall for that. They should go on TV and tell the American ppl that if we go through another impeachment hearing or Republicans try to remove him, it will be a blanket pardon. Dems need to Project what REpublicans are going to do. Stop pouting about how "this is not normal"... in fact THIS IS NOW OUR NORMALCY.


Yeah, I already covered that scenario a week or two ago. I don't expect Pelosi to pursue impeachment charges against Trump. She won't fall into that trap. She knows Trump is now her Easter Bunny that will deliver a landslide so she is not going to gift Mitch with an impeachment.

They are however exploring impeachment hearings against Barr and they can go ahead with that and they probably should. It at least roadblocks Barr from doing more damage.

Pence is a co-conspirator which makes pardoning Trump potentially a crime in itself. They may try it, but it will be contested in court. It still won't in any way protect Trump from prosecution on state charges. Federal pardons can't save Trump from indictments.

This is not at all comparable to Ford pardoning Nixon. Ford was not a co-conspirator.


It is definitely not comparable to Ford pardoning Nixon. One of the reasons why you pardon Presidents even if the other side hates it is because someone will abuse this power.

I hope the Dems are smart enough to not do anything stupid right now. Just sit back and watch.

On the other hand, Barr could be cooking something up to expand Presidential power to Trump under the guise of National Security and that's what I'm afraid of. While McConnell is packing the courts with extremists that barely got out of diapers and we're all praying for RGB and Beyers not to die during this term is ridiculous.

It is fairly sad that we need to safeguard the transfer of powers to ensure that one crazed administration doesn't fck up this constitution. Jon Stewart said it best with Trevor Noah, "The Presidency is supposed to age the President not the country".

This is a scary read and a possibility:

https://www.newsweek.com/how-trump-could-lose-election-still-remain-president-opinion-1513975?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR11alohVcXbTyJ2tFvuCIBrQKtu98Hp3XknrGNOqAa9MeB5iSGs31wv_DU#Echobox=1593770938
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1833 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jul 4, 2020 1:26 am

Jeffrey wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:
At this point Dems shouldn't impeach Trump again because you know the Senate will quickly impeach him so Pence can pardon for all charges. Then they will try to do a huge blanket to pardon for any future or past crimes.

As for the Republicans, if the polls aren't good they will want to push him out ASAP and then have Pence pardon him for all charges. They will still lose the Presidency but it's all about the Senate now.

In the end, Republicans now see that this is a sinking ship. They want to cover up GOPs giving billions to their friends, Trump pretty much muzzled so they can continue their charades.

Dems will be stupid to fall for that. They should go on TV and tell the American ppl that if we go through another impeachment hearing or Republicans try to remove him, it will be a blanket pardon. Dems need to Project what REpublicans are going to do. Stop pouting about how "this is not normal"... in fact THIS IS NOW OUR NORMALCY.


Yeah, I already covered that scenario a week or two ago. I don't expect Pelosi to pursue impeachment charges against Trump. She won't fall into that trap. She knows Trump is now her Easter Bunny that will deliver a landslide so she is not going to gift Mitch with an impeachment.

They are however exploring impeachment hearings against Barr and they can go ahead with that and they probably should. It at least roadblocks Barr from doing more damage.

Pence is a co-conspirator which makes pardoning Trump potentially a crime in itself. They may try it, but it will be contested in court. It still won't in any way protect Trump from prosecution on state charges. Federal pardons can't save Trump from indictments.

This is not at all comparable to Ford pardoning Nixon. Ford was not a co-conspirator.


It is definitely not comparable to Ford pardoning Nixon. One of the reasons why you pardon Presidents even if the other side hates it is because someone will abuse this power.

I hope the Dems are smart enough to not do anything stupid right now. Just sit back and watch.

On the other hand, Barr could be cooking something up to expand Presidential power to Trump under the guise of National Security and that's what I'm afraid of. While McConnell is packing the courts with extremists that barely got out of diapers and we're all praying for RGB and Beyers not to die during this term is ridiculous.

It is fairly sad that we need to safeguard the transfer of powers to ensure that one crazed administration doesn't fck up this constitution. Jon Stewart said it best with Trevor Noah, "The Presidency is supposed to age the President not the country".

This is a scary read and a possibility:

https://www.newsweek.com/how-trump-could-lose-election-still-remain-president-opinion-1513975?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR11alohVcXbTyJ2tFvuCIBrQKtu98Hp3XknrGNOqAa9MeB5iSGs31wv_DU#Echobox=1593770938


I'm even more concerned about the 78 days of the transition period since I expect a large turnout that should stymie an attempt to steal the election on November 3rd, but recognize Trump will feel he has nothing to lose by trying to gum up the works.

There is a problem with this scenario though. This would not be a hanging chad in one state, but would involve multiple states and the premise mapped out is state Republicans will rally behind the president.

But they are bailing on Trump. Mitch announced it in no uncertain terms: Trump is on the clock. Turn this ship around by Labor Day or you're on your own pal.

And that is going to happen unless Trump steps down or absents the ticket. So if there is a landslide loss, I don't see how easy it will be for the GOP to suddenly act like they are all in this together and backing Trump. The Trump experiment has failed and if the GOP wants to live to see another day I don't really see how trying to overturn a legitimate Biden victory is going to do anything but decimate their party even further.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1834 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jul 4, 2020 1:36 am

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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1835 » by Stannis » Sat Jul 4, 2020 3:01 am

Clyde_Style wrote:I know it should be fairly obvious by now, but it kind of just dawned on me that Donald Trump Jr. is turning out to be pretty much a clone of his father, a whiny know-nothing chit talker who spews trash to get attention. And I shuddered at the thought of this clown getting attention for 30-40 years as the legacy bearer of his father. I hope this election banishes them all from the limelight and into jail cells at best.

Main reason I'm voting for Biden.

USA can't afford to have a POS family like the Trumps running our country. I'd rather be ran by the Kardashians with Kayne as the First Gentleman.
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Post#1836 » by Stannis » Sat Jul 4, 2020 3:08 am

If Trump loses (and no, I don't think it will be a landslide victory for Biden. It will still be very close, and Trump can very well get re-elected)....

I wonder if the GOP will pretend this Trump era never happened and go back to their usual traditional candidates who tend to be more rural, christian, and actually republican.

Or if they will keep fighting and try to get Trump or a Trump elected in 2024.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1837 » by Bulls69 » Sat Jul 4, 2020 3:38 am

Clyde_Style wrote:McConnell has put Trump on notice. If he doesn't get his polls up this Summer the Republicans up for election are going to disavow him this Fall leading up to the election and/or Mitch is going to try to (a) force Trump out of the WH via 25th Amendment or resignation or (b) by Trump removing himself from the ticket while serving out his term.

The wild card is Trump, because he may tell Mitch to pound sand and force them to try and get his cabinet to invoke the 25th and that is not guaranteed to work. I think so many of his cabinet are complicit in Trump's crime spree they may not want to take him down.

Since Trump has doubled down on feeding red meat to his racist base and Rona is not letting up anytime soon, he is NOT going to miraculously gain back over 5% of the voting public and draw even by November.

So wild card # 2 is what komprommat Mitch has on Trump and is he willing to use it, because I'm assuming Trump and Putin have komprommat on Mitch too. So this is going to turn into a stare down.

Mitch didn't leak his intentions because he might want Trump to step down. He did it because he clearly wants that to happen. The only person he is signaling with this news is Trump himself. Mitch is giving him a head's up and the option to remove himself from the ticket or resign before they come to blows over this in August or September.

This is a big fat crap sandwich Mitch has to eat the GOP had their chance to force out Trump during the impeachment hearing but these spineless Gop's just kept on kissing Trump's rear end.
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Post#1838 » by Pointgod » Sat Jul 4, 2020 5:52 am

Clyde_Style wrote:McConnell has put Trump on notice. If he doesn't get his polls up this Summer the Republicans up for election are going to disavow him this Fall leading up to the election and/or Mitch is going to try to (a) force Trump out of the WH via 25th Amendment or resignation or (b) by Trump removing himself from the ticket while serving out his term.

The wild card is Trump, because he may tell Mitch to pound sand and force them to try and get his cabinet to invoke the 25th and that is not guaranteed to work. I think so many of his cabinet are complicit in Trump's crime spree they may not want to take him down.

Since Trump has doubled down on feeding red meat to his racist base and Rona is not letting up anytime soon, he is NOT going to miraculously gain back over 5% of the voting public and draw even by November.

So wild card # 2 is what komprommat Mitch has on Trump and is he willing to use it, because I'm assuming Trump and Putin have komprommat on Mitch too. So this is going to turn into a stare down.

Mitch didn't leak his intentions because he might want Trump to step down. He did it because he clearly wants that to happen. The only person he is signaling with this news is Trump himself. Mitch is giving him a head's up and the option to remove himself from the ticket or resign before they come to blows over this in August or September.


The best part about Mitch’s plan distance Republicans from Trump is the fact that it’s going to fail spectacularly. Trump is the special type of **** to crash the plane with the passengers in it rather than save others. He will absolutely the type of **** show that will cause Trump to turn his twitter fingers into Republicans.

Republicans deserve the special hell that they’re about to go through. They could have coalesced around any other candidate in the primary. They also had an out with impeachment, they could have done the right thing for the country and removed him but nooo they decided to shackle the Trump ball and chain onto their ankles. Hopefully this is the end of the Republican for more than one cycle. All Trump supporters should be social pariahs and never work in politics again.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1839 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jul 4, 2020 6:15 am

Pointgod wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:McConnell has put Trump on notice. If he doesn't get his polls up this Summer the Republicans up for election are going to disavow him this Fall leading up to the election and/or Mitch is going to try to (a) force Trump out of the WH via 25th Amendment or resignation or (b) by Trump removing himself from the ticket while serving out his term.

The wild card is Trump, because he may tell Mitch to pound sand and force them to try and get his cabinet to invoke the 25th and that is not guaranteed to work. I think so many of his cabinet are complicit in Trump's crime spree they may not want to take him down.

Since Trump has doubled down on feeding red meat to his racist base and Rona is not letting up anytime soon, he is NOT going to miraculously gain back over 5% of the voting public and draw even by November.

So wild card # 2 is what komprommat Mitch has on Trump and is he willing to use it, because I'm assuming Trump and Putin have komprommat on Mitch too. So this is going to turn into a stare down.

Mitch didn't leak his intentions because he might want Trump to step down. He did it because he clearly wants that to happen. The only person he is signaling with this news is Trump himself. Mitch is giving him a head's up and the option to remove himself from the ticket or resign before they come to blows over this in August or September.


The best part about Mitch’s plan distance Republicans from Trump is the fact that it’s going to fail spectacularly. Trump is the special type of **** to crash the plane with the passengers in it rather than save others. He will absolutely the type of **** show that will cause Trump to turn his twitter fingers into Republicans.

Republicans deserve the special hell that they’re about to go through. They could have coalesced around any other candidate in the primary. They also had an out with impeachment, they could have done the right thing for the country and removed him but nooo they decided to shackle the Trump ball and chain onto their ankles. Hopefully this is the end of the Republican for more than one cycle. All Trump supporters should be social pariahs and never work in politics again.


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hope like hell McGrath sends this succubus packing
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1840 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jul 4, 2020 6:21 am

Stannis wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:I know it should be fairly obvious by now, but it kind of just dawned on me that Donald Trump Jr. is turning out to be pretty much a clone of his father, a whiny know-nothing chit talker who spews trash to get attention. And I shuddered at the thought of this clown getting attention for 30-40 years as the legacy bearer of his father. I hope this election banishes them all from the limelight and into jail cells at best.

Main reason I'm voting for Biden.

USA can't afford to have a POS family like the Trumps running our country. I'd rather be ran by the Kardashians with Kayne as the First Gentleman.


Ooopsie!

That's Donald Jr.'s girlfriend for hire (she's been overheard reaming Parscale because her checks were late)

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Kimberly Guilfoyle, Top Fund-Raising Official for Trump Campaign, Tests Positive for Coronavirus

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/03/us/politics/kimberly-guilfoyle-trump-campaign-coronavirus.html

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