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cgf wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:cgf wrote:
Just imagine. Off comes IQ, on comes this kid, and vice versa for 48 minutes a night
ideal 1st round scenario:
w/ some lottery luck land Jalen Green, use the Mavs pick (assuming it lands in the 20-25 range) on Jared Butler
I need to see the GLeague guys play full games. Tough for me to get hyped just from clips.
knickstape4ever wrote:cgf wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:
ideal 1st round scenario:
w/ some lottery luck land Jalen Green, use the Mavs pick (assuming it lands in the 20-25 range) on Jared Butler
I need to see the GLeague guys play full games. Tough for me to get hyped just from clips.
I think he's the real deal. his bounce is incredible and his off the dibble game is strong. he's gonna be an offensive force
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cgf wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:cgf wrote:
I need to see the GLeague guys play full games. Tough for me to get hyped just from clips.
I think he's the real deal. his bounce is incredible and his off the dibble game is strong. he's gonna be an offensive force
Oh I didn't say that in a doubting way. I want Green & Kuminga to be beastly too & they sound like prospects I'd love. I just can't get myself that excited for them & jump on their bandwagons the way I'm on Ziaire, Butler...or even Keon Johnson's.
In a vaccuum, I'd prefer to pair RJ with a bigger wing, which is why I really want Ziaire...or Kuminga if he's as good as he sounds / seems-to-be...but if Green is just on another level than either of them, then that would be awesome too. I just need to see it in some full games to fully get on the bandwagon.
knickstape4ever wrote:cgf wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:
I think he's the real deal. his bounce is incredible and his off the dibble game is strong. he's gonna be an offensive force
Oh I didn't say that in a doubting way. I want Green & Kuminga to be beastly too & they sound like prospects I'd love. I just can't get myself that excited for them & jump on their bandwagons the way I'm on Ziaire, Butler...or even Keon Johnson's.
In a vaccuum, I'd prefer to pair RJ with a bigger wing, which is why I really want Ziaire...or Kuminga if he's as good as he sounds / seems-to-be...but if Green is just on another level than either of them, then that would be awesome too. I just need to see it in some full games to fully get on the bandwagon.
understandable, tho if the 2023 draft has HS prospects, we're gonna have to rely less on college
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cgf wrote:moocow007 wrote:cgf wrote:
Wagner is interesting, but I have a tough time seeing Garza making it in the NBA...the kid he makes Kanter's feet look nimble.
Yes. I think you can work with his limited foot speed. How he plays factors in as a plus to me. There are still big guys, offensive centric guys in the NBA that are major impact guys.
My issue is that Garza will need to be almost Jokic-caliber offensively just to be playable. Cause I'm having a tough time thinking of any centers in the NBA who are as bad as Garza defensively and actually play. The only guys who are that slow & soft defensively are end of bench guys who never actually get on the court, like Kornet. I'm taking Toppin as a smallball 5 over Garza defensively...and that's not exactly a tough decision.
Garza is like Sharife Cooper to me; skilled enough to dominate at the college level, but his physical limitations are going to make it very hard for him to carve out an NBA career for himself. Which is why I think there are better gambles to make.
I'm with you on Wagner though, not sure there's that big of a difference between him & Kispert. Both can do things with the ball at the college level & have the shooting to lean on even if the rest of their games won't translate to the NBA.
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HEZI wrote:
1:24 mark that kickout pass is some elite level court awareness
I like how under control yet aggressive he plays
HEZI wrote:
1:24 mark that kickout pass is some elite level court awareness
I like how under control yet aggressive he plays
knickstape4ever wrote:HEZI wrote:
1:24 mark that kickout pass is some elite level court awareness
I like how under control yet aggressive he plays
love his game. needs to improve his shot, but he can do everything else
doubt we get him tho b/c we need guards more than forwards
cgf wrote:JJ lookin like a baby Julius out there.
Angryfatboy wrote:cgf wrote:JJ lookin like a baby Julius out there.
He does look like Randle in those highlights
HEZI wrote:Angryfatboy wrote:cgf wrote:JJ lookin like a baby Julius out there.
He does look like Randle in those highlights
He looks more like another former Duke playerSpoiler:
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cgf wrote:HEZI wrote:Angryfatboy wrote:
He does look like Randle in those highlights
He looks more like another former Duke playerSpoiler:
Don't see that one. Jalen isn't anywhere near as quick/nimble or as good of a shooter.
He's a skilled-4 rather than a true perimeter guy IMO.
HEZI wrote:cgf wrote:HEZI wrote:
He looks more like another former Duke playerSpoiler:
Don't see that one. Jalen isn't anywhere near as quick/nimble or as good of a shooter.
He's a skilled-4 rather than a true perimeter guy IMO.
Not even in the NBA will Jalen Johnson play the 4/5 like Randle. He's not 250 and he's not a big man. He's a playmaking forward who likes to slash to the basket and his mid range looks solid. Outside shot lacks volume but he's shown ability to shoot from outside. Johnson has a similar frame and game to Rui Hachimura except he's got way better playmaking ability.
Covington does, and that's who I see defensively from Jalen Johnson.Capn'O wrote:We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
cgf wrote:HEZI wrote:cgf wrote:
Don't see that one. Jalen isn't anywhere near as quick/nimble or as good of a shooter.
He's a skilled-4 rather than a true perimeter guy IMO.
Not even in the NBA will Jalen Johnson play the 4/5 like Randle. He's not 250 and he's not a big man. He's a playmaking forward who likes to slash to the basket and his mid range looks solid. Outside shot lacks volume but he's shown ability to shoot from outside. Johnson has a similar frame and game to Rui Hachimura except he's got way better playmaking ability.
