Trades and Transactions 2025 IV

[8516knicks]

Simmons could have a career still if he accepted the role of being a a backup center. But, he doesn't see himself that way, which is stupid.

That,s his brand.

[stuporman]

It seems like the Knicks brass is comfortable with Brunson, Clarkson, Deuce and possibly some TyKo being the 'small' guards in the rotation. I suspect they view Clarkson as a ball handling guard off the bench.

JC may not be a pure PG type but he's capable of setting up an offense in the half court even if he doesn't facilitate in a way fans might envision. He does move the ball off his penetration while also being a scoring threat. Alongside Deuce off the bench they probably see that as a potent combo and Tyko is only getting mins in an emergency situation of a missed game by one of the first 3.

I'm not sure they are adding another PG type unless it's a big one like Brogdon or Simmons. With the addition of Yabuty and possibly some added bench forward depth with the rook, Mo, they are likely to seek out a wing with that final contract. So Shamet seems like the probable one with an outside chance of someone more interesting but it feels less likely.

Would I like to see another veteran PG? It depends on who I suppose but if TyKo is forced into the regular rotation because of a prolonged injury I wonder about how consistent he would be. Could the Knicks survive that, sure, but who knows how successfully they would.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Amir Coffey. What's his story?

[JayTWill]

Honestly I might just prefer Shamet over Simmons. Simmons is the better defender but who do you even play him with? If he's coming off the bench with Hart and playing some minutes with Mitch that is some really bad spacing.

I would rather have Shamet who can go games without playing but then get put into the rotation and defend a bit and space the floor. We don't have a lot of shooters with range on this team.

Personally I think I would have preferred bringing back Shamet and possibly taking a chance on Simmons instead of bringing in Clarkson. I know there is always an emphasis on offense but they weren't a good team on defense last year. Clearly it will be difficult to play certain lineups together on offense but the team has the same issues on defense. I honestly don't think they could even run a 5 man defensive unit at this point as Hart's defense was pretty disappointing last season. They have Deuce, Mikal, OG and Mitch when healthy.

Playing Simmons with Hart and Mitch would be difficult but Hart's minutes need to come down significantly imo especially now that he has reached 30 as an energy/effort guy and Mitch and Simmons minutes probably need to be limited throughout the regular season. They have 2 guys that were stretch 5's last year in KAT and Yabu. Brunson is one the better shooters in the league. They also have OG, Deuce and hopefully a more consistent Mikal that can space the floor.

[KnixinSix]

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Get it done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is a defensive chess piece. And he can legit ball handle. This would be a fantastic role player addition to the team.

[Wildcat]

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Get it done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is a defensive chess piece. This would be a fantastic role player addition to the team.

I'm not on board. But either if I was, I don't think he'd be down with collecting DNP's.

[KnixinSix]

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Get it done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is a defensive chess piece. This would be a fantastic role player addition to the team.

I'm not on board. But either if I was, I don't think he'd be down with collecting DNP's.

For what this team still needs he is kinda a perfect fit. More true ball handling behind Brunson and an additional high level defensive chess piece that can defend 1 to 5. For the vet min how could anyone NOT be on board with that?

[KnixinSix]

Honestly I might just prefer Shamet over Simmons. Simmons is the better defender but who do you even play him with? If he's coming off the bench with Hart and playing some minutes with Mitch that is some really bad spacing.

I would rather have Shamet who can go games without playing but then get put into the rotation and defend a bit and space the floor. We don't have a lot of shooters with range on this team.

Personally I think I would have preferred bringing back Shamet and possibly taking a chance on Simmons instead of bringing in Clarkson. I know there is always an emphasis on offense but they weren't a good team on defense last year. Clearly it will be difficult to play certain lineups together on offense but the team has the same issues on defense. I honestly don't think they could even run a 5 man defensive unit at this point as Hart's defense was pretty disappointing last season. They have Deuce, Mikal, OG and Mitch when healthy.

Playing Simmons with Hart and Mitch would be difficult but Hart's minutes need to come down significantly imo especially now that he has reached 30 as an energy/effort guy and Mitch and Simmons minutes probably need to be limited throughout the regular season. They have 2 guys that were stretch 5's last year in KAT and Yabu. Brunson is one the better shooters in the league. They also have OG, Deuce and hopefully a more consistent Mikal that can space the floor.

Not a fan of Clarksons low IQ game like at all. I agree there entirely. Hopefully they can reel him in to a specific role in Browns offense

[mpharris36]

Honestly I might just prefer Shamet over Simmons. Simmons is the better defender but who do you even play him with? If he's coming off the bench with Hart and playing some minutes with Mitch that is some really bad spacing.

I would rather have Shamet who can go games without playing but then get put into the rotation and defend a bit and space the floor. We don't have a lot of shooters with range on this team.

Personally I think I would have preferred bringing back Shamet and possibly taking a chance on Simmons instead of bringing in Clarkson. I know there is always an emphasis on offense but they weren't a good team on defense last year. Clearly it will be difficult to play certain lineups together on offense but the team has the same issues on defense. I honestly don't think they could even run a 5 man defensive unit at this point as Hart's defense was pretty disappointing last season. They have Deuce, Mikal, OG and Mitch when healthy.

Playing Simmons with Hart and Mitch would be difficult but Hart's minutes need to come down significantly imo especially now that he has reached 30 as an energy/effort guy and Mitch and Simmons minutes probably need to be limited throughout the regular season. They have 2 guys that were stretch 5's last year in KAT and Yabu. Brunson is one the better shooters in the league. They also have OG, Deuce and hopefully a more consistent Mikal that can space the floor.

They needed some potential scoring jump from Clarkson off the bench. Yes your going to have to real in some of his shot selection. But they needed someone that could go get a bucket outside of Brunson if the offense gets too stagnant. It will be up to Brown and the coaching staff to tell Clarkson this isn't Utah and he doesn't have a green light to jack up shots especially if he's playing with KAT and the offense should flow through him.

[Wildcat]

He is a defensive chess piece. This would be a fantastic role player addition to the team.

I'm not on board. But either if I was, I don't think he'd be down with collecting DNP's.

For what this team still needs he is kinda a perfect fit. More true ball handling behind Brunson and an additional high level defensive chess piece that can defend 1 to 5. For the vet min how could anyone NOT be on board with that?

Doesn't manner what the team needs. Does he want to be back in the NY area after being so polarized here? And is he going to be down with collecting DNP?

[KnixinSix]

I'm not on board. But either if I was, I don't think he'd be down with collecting DNP's.

For what this team still needs he is kinda a perfect fit. More true ball handling behind Brunson and an additional high level defensive chess piece that can defend 1 to 5. For the vet min how could anyone NOT be on board with that?

Doesn't manner what the team needs. Does he want to be back in the NY area after being so polarized here? And is he going to be down with collecting DNP?

DNPs? Why? His value as a defensive stopper and ballhandler will absolutely get him 10+ minutes a game.

[JayTWill]

Honestly I might just prefer Shamet over Simmons. Simmons is the better defender but who do you even play him with? If he's coming off the bench with Hart and playing some minutes with Mitch that is some really bad spacing.

I would rather have Shamet who can go games without playing but then get put into the rotation and defend a bit and space the floor. We don't have a lot of shooters with range on this team.

Personally I think I would have preferred bringing back Shamet and possibly taking a chance on Simmons instead of bringing in Clarkson. I know there is always an emphasis on offense but they weren't a good team on defense last year. Clearly it will be difficult to play certain lineups together on offense but the team has the same issues on defense. I honestly don't think they could even run a 5 man defensive unit at this point as Hart's defense was pretty disappointing last season. They have Deuce, Mikal, OG and Mitch when healthy.

Playing Simmons with Hart and Mitch would be difficult but Hart's minutes need to come down significantly imo especially now that he has reached 30 as an energy/effort guy and Mitch and Simmons minutes probably need to be limited throughout the regular season. They have 2 guys that were stretch 5's last year in KAT and Yabu. Brunson is one the better shooters in the league. They also have OG, Deuce and hopefully a more consistent Mikal that can space the floor.

They needed some potential scoring jump from Clarkson off the bench. Yes your going to have to real in some of his shot selection. But they needed someone that could go get a bucket outside of Brunson if the offense gets too stagnant. It will be up to Brown and the coaching staff to tell Clarkson this isn't Utah and he doesn't have a green light to jack up shots especially if he's playing with KAT and the offense should flow through him.

Yeah I can understand the desire for a Clarkson type of player off the bench even if I have a hard time envisioning him becoming a more efficient player as a small scoring guard at the age of 33 when he wasn't that on the top offense in the league many years ago in Utah. I worry that we may have added another declining one way player near the end of his career again. Derrick Rose was the only guy it worked out well with in the last 5-6 years and that was only for half a season.

I was just wondering why there seems to be more concerns about adding Simmons in a limited role to Mitch and Hart on offense in comparison to adding Clarkson or even someone like Yabusele to a team that wasn't good defensively last year with some pretty bad defenders playing significant roles on the team already.

I feel like we will have far more issues finding good defensive lineups than offensive lineups and while playing Simmons with Hart or Mitch may be difficult Mitch only played 17 games averaging 17 minutes last year and everyone seems to want Hart's role reduced in some capacity.

There has also been some talk about getting Brunson off ball more but i'm not exactly sure whose hands they can put the ball in to initiate the offense outside of Brunson. Even if i'm not a fan of Clarkson's game he does provide some added ball handling but a Brunson/Clarkson backcourt is terrible defensively especially paired with some of the other poor defenders on the team. Simmons seems like he could get Brunson off the ball at times as a point forward/center while providing some defense and some added depth in case one of Mitch, KAT or OG goes down.

[Wildcat]

For what this team still needs he is kinda a perfect fit. More true ball handling behind Brunson and an additional high level defensive chess piece that can defend 1 to 5. For the vet min how could anyone NOT be on board with that?

Doesn't manner what the team needs. Does he want to be back in the NY area after being so polarized here? And is he going to be down with collecting DNP?

DNPs? Why? His value as a defensive stopper and ballhandler will absolutely get him 10+ minutes a game.

Clarkson, Deuce, Hart/Mitch, Yabusele, and Hukporti seem locked in for the bench. Where are those 10 minutes coming from?

[thebuzzardman]

Doesn't manner what the team needs. Does he want to be back in the NY area after being so polarized here? And is he going to be down with collecting DNP?

DNPs? Why? His value as a defensive stopper and ballhandler will absolutely get him 10+ minutes a game.

Clarkson, Deuce, Hart/Mitch, Yabusele, and Hukporti seem locked in for the bench. Where are those 10 minutes coming from?

From the 80 games Mitch and OG will miss?

[spree2kawhi]

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Get it done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is a defensive chess piece. And he can legit ball handle. This would be a fantastic role player addition to the team.

I just don’t like the pretentiousness and cockiness… the defense I’m fine with.

[JayTWill]

But seriously what happens if OG misses some significant time? Mikal looked improved defensively in the postseason imo but who guards the bigger wings/forward consistently if OG is out?

[Jalen Bluntson]

But seriously what happens if OG misses some significant time? Mikal looked improved defensively in the postseason imo but who guards the bigger wings/forward consistently if OG is out?

Dammit! Now I want to take a flyer on Simmons again!! His back issues scare the hell out of me though. Ugh!! If we sign him and he is useless it's a minor risk but , if Clarkson sucks too? We would need Kolek and one of Pac or McC to take a leap immediately.

Go get Amir Coffey!

[JayTWill]

But seriously what happens if OG misses some significant time? Mikal looked improved defensively in the postseason imo but who guards the bigger wings/forward consistently if OG is out?

Dammit! Now I want to take a flyer on Simmons again!! His back issues scare the hell out of me though. Ugh!! If we sign him and he is useless it's a minor risk but , if Clarkson sucks too? We would need Kolek and one of Pac or McC to take a leap immediately.

Go get Amir Coffey!

Yeah, the back injuries are concerning especially if he has reached the point in his career where is in a rapid decline. I would have loved to see prime Ben Simmons next to Brunson, Mikal, OG and KAT even with his limitations as a scorer/shooter.

At the vet min he just seems like good depth that could fill multiple roles in theory as another ballhandler, wing defender and center depth so Hukporti wouldn't possibly be thrown into the fire if Mitch or KAT go down. I assume it would be pretty easy to pivot from him if things don't work out if they want to trade his vet min contract or pay another team to take his money to clear a roster spot.

[8516knicks]

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Get it done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is a defensive chess piece. And he can legit ball handle. This would be a fantastic role player addition to the team.

I just don’t like the pretentiousness and cockiness… the defense I’m fine with.

For the Simmons fans, ask yourself, if he's so good why don't/didn't the Celtics pick him up? (instead of Niang, for example). I mean Niang and Queta as your starting 4 & 5 don't exactly equal Porzingas & Horford.

[thebuzzardman]

Simmons or Coffee seems like the logical choice for last spot