MeloDrama Part V

[King of Canada]

MUST be some new rumors for the Monday AM papers, et....no?

[H20FAN]

Did sweet melon make his stupid decision yet


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[Handledatruth]

Just read an article linked by Yahoo on CSN Chicago stating that Melo will sign with the Knicks. However, it was pulled down. I'll see if I can still find it and link it. The article read as if it was a done deal. Not sure what that means at the moment.

[AllanHoustonFan]

So today is the day he is supposedly making his decision right? Lol melo just made my day at work feel longer.


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[duetta]

Bosh played center much of the time in Miami. Can you imagine Miami attempting to replace Bosh with Anthony? I guess Lebron would end up playing center...

[liknicks7]

Windhorst seems very confident Melo is signing with us. Brought up how we're already going after Gasol to play alongside Melo. This just on Mike and Mike.

[AllanHoustonFan]

Windhorst seems very confident Melo is signing with us. Brought up how we're already going after Gasol to play alongside Melo.

#inrobertrandolphwetrust???


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[King of Canada]

Bosh played center much of the time in Miami. Can you imagine Miami attempting to replace Bosh with Anthony? I guess Lebron would end up playing center...

Yeah, a Melo/Lebron team doesn't seem like the best idea to me. They are both pretty ball dominant and overlap a lot. Obviously Lebron is more the ditributor, but team could take advantage with the two of them on the floor. Might not work out THAT well.

[gavran]

So I woke up for nothing?

[bishnykfan]

I am wondering why Melo hasn't signed yet. If he wants to come back to NY, he knows what Phil is all about and has supposedly been offered a max contract. I'm starting to think that he is delaying his decision so he can either end up in Miami with Lebron or in Chicago. It seems to me that he is using the LA max story to put off his signing. I'm not saying that he won't end up back in NY if Lebron goes to Cleveland or if Chicago can't get him his max contract, but if he really wanted to sign in NY, then what is he waiting for?

[kosmovitelli]

Stephen A. Smith on ESPN: If Chris Bosh signs with the Houston Rockets, the HEAT are going to try to replace him with Carmelo Anthony.
via SportsCenter

Read more at http://www.basketballinsiders.com/heat- ... XrkFqQF.99

The Rockets don't have enough cap room yet to sign Chris Bosh. They need to get rid of Lin. Easier said than done.

Anyway, the keyword in the sentence is try !

Lebron and Melo both wants max contracts. For Melo it's a contract starting at approx $22 mil and for Lebron it's $20 million. That's already $42 million. Even if you add Wade at $12 million, that's roughly $54 million. Add Norris Cole and cap holds for empty roster spots and you don't have much cap room to sign free agents, only min vet salaries. No PG, no C, no real PF. I doubt that team would go deep in the playoffs.

Lebron and Melo playing together in Miami makes sense only if Wade is let go or resigns for the MLE. Then they would have enough cap room to sign a PG and a C. OBviously it won't happen, Wade didn't opt out without guarantee he would recoup his money long term one way or another. Wade needs to sign at least a multiyear $10+ million contract.

If Lebron and Melo are so desperate to play together (frankly I don't understand why) then they should both sign a one-year deal and sign with the Knicks or Lakers in 2015 as both teams will probably have enough cap room to sign them next year.

Anyway I don't think Bosh will leave the Heat. I still think they already have some kind of agreement. If Riley can't attract free agents and improve the team then all three players will probably sign a one-year contract (+ an option year) and then Riley will have tremendous pressure to improve the team in 2015 of Lebron will leave Miami. I don't think Wade and Bosh left all that money on the table without a guarantee they will get their money (contract) back if their plan (add a PG, Lowry, and a C) fell apart.

[denterprise]

I am wondering why Melo hasn't signed yet. If he wants to come back to NY, he knows what Phil is all about and has supposedly been offered a max contract. I'm starting to think that he is delaying his decision so he can either end up in Miami with Lebron or in Chicago. It seems to me that he is using the LA max story to put off his signing. I'm not saying that he won't end up back in NY if Lebron goes to Cleveland or if Chicago can't get him his max contract, but if he really wanted to sign in NY, then what is he waiting for?

It has already been reported that he would take the weekend to announce his decision. There is no rush on his part because no free agent can sign until the end of the week anyway so why not take your time and make sure you are making the right decision for yourself. As fans we can afford to be impatient but this is his career and he is going to make sure of where he plans to spend the next four to five years.

[NYK Dolemite]

I am wondering why Melo hasn't signed yet. If he wants to come back to NY, he knows what Phil is all about and has supposedly been offered a max contract. I'm starting to think that he is delaying his decision so he can either end up in Miami with Lebron or in Chicago. It seems to me that he is using the LA max story to put off his signing. I'm not saying that he won't end up back in NY if Lebron goes to Cleveland or if Chicago can't get him his max contract, but if he really wanted to sign in NY, then what is he waiting for?

Well, what's his motivation to sign early? This is $$$ NYK can only spend on him, so it's not going anywhere. The landscape is going to change at some point as other teams make moves. Where is the motivation to quickly sign with your own team? I guess it protects you from the rare off-season injury, but I don't think there's a huge rush for any of these FA's to up with their original teams. That money is going to be there. Same with LBJ with the Heat. Pro athletes like this process. I bet I would as well. These are dudes with huge egos who engage in this process, who speak only about wanting to enjoy the FA process. Occasionally guys like Duncan or Dirk don't same to care and just get this done in a timely and quiet manner. But a lot of the elite players seems to love this two-week love-fest, and I don't particularly read into them taking time,

[vallen]

i still think hes using the LA thing to justify taking full max after talking smack on the discount. he wants to look like a returning hero, rather then a lying sack of doggy poop...

[kosmovitelli]

I am wondering why Melo hasn't signed yet. If he wants to come back to NY, he knows what Phil is all about and has supposedly been offered a max contract. I'm starting to think that he is delaying his decision so he can either end up in Miami with Lebron or in Chicago. It seems to me that he is using the LA max story to put off his signing. I'm not saying that he won't end up back in NY if Lebron goes to Cleveland or if Chicago can't get him his max contract, but if he really wanted to sign in NY, then what is he waiting for?

Melo said it best when he said he planned to opt out and wanted to be a free agent. He wanted that experience, he wanted to be courted, wined and dined, etc. It's obviously an ego thing. The guy wanted to know how much he's worth and how many teams would go hard after him. There was no reason for him to accept a max offer as soon as it was tendered by Phil Jackson and Jimmy Dolan. It seems he's been waiting for that kind of experience for a long time so he will enjoy every minute of it !

In that interview, he also hinted winning a title wasn't essential for him.

It's inevitable he will accept the max contract offer from the Knicks. He will take the money and think about winning later ! It's just a matter of time.

The Importance of Being Melo

He's (Still) the Best Ballplayer in Town, but Will He Stick Around?

By Rafi Kohan | 10/15/13 8:45pm

To hear Anthony tell it, coming to the Knicks has always been part of a long-term plan. Upon arrival, he knew the depleted lineup—a result of the February 2011 deal that brought him to town—would take time to reassemble, and then there was the matter of adjusting to life in New York.

Anthony is clear he expects to win a title. “I feel like I’m going to get one, this year, next year. I still got a long time in this league,” he says. But even if he doesn’t, Anthony rejects the semantics that one has to win to be a winner. “Barkley, Ewing, John Stockton, Karl Malone, Reggie Miller—you mean to tell me they’re not great? Yeah, a championship validates that. But these guys are great.”

That attitude may actually prove good news for the home team, since it’s possible the Knicks will finish in the lower half of playoff qualifiers in the now-stacked Eastern Conference, and, as Howard Beck recently wrote in The Times, Anthony’s decision next summer may come down to staying in New York versus winning elsewhere.

“I want to be a free agent,” Anthony tells me, as our cigars burn close to the nub. “I think everybody in the NBA dreams to be a free agent at least one time in their career. It’s like you have an evaluation period, you know. It’s like if I’m in the gym and I have all the coaches, all the owners, all the GMs come into the gym and just evaluate everything I do. So yes, I want that experience.”

Take a breath, Knicks fans. That doesn’t mean he’s leaving.

“I came to New York for a reason,” Anthony adds. “I’ve been with you all my life, almost to a fault. I wanted to come here and take on the pressures of playing in New York. So one thing I would tell my fans: If you haven’t heard it from me, then it ain’t true.”

http://observer.com/2013/10/the-importa ... eing-melo/

[AllanHoustonFan]

Bosh played center much of the time in Miami. Can you imagine Miami attempting to replace Bosh with Anthony? I guess Lebron would end up playing center...

Yeah, a Melo/Lebron team doesn't seem like the best idea to me. They are both pretty ball dominant and overlap a lot. Obviously Lebron is more the ditributor, but team could take advantage with the two of them on the floor. Might not work out THAT well.

Melo would be a spot up shooter, like he was in the Olympics, and would be very good at it. I think he shot like 60% in catch and shoot situations last season.


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[King of Canada]

Bosh played center much of the time in Miami. Can you imagine Miami attempting to replace Bosh with Anthony? I guess Lebron would end up playing center...

Yeah, a Melo/Lebron team doesn't seem like the best idea to me. They are both pretty ball dominant and overlap a lot. Obviously Lebron is more the ditributor, but team could take advantage with the two of them on the floor. Might not work out THAT well.

Melo would be a spot up shooter, like he was in the Olympics, and would be very good at it. I think he shot like 60% in catch and shoot situations last season.


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He's an all star, and I know he wouldn't be bad. Just don't think they would be the best. Obviously probably still be top 2 or 3 in the east.

[liknicks7]

Melo and Lebron would be absolutely filthy IMO. However, the way it's shaking out, it will be Lebron/Melo with the corpse of Wade and nothing else. Not going to win anything playing 2.5 on 5 every night.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Stephen A. Smith on ESPN: If Chris Bosh signs with the Houston Rockets, the HEAT are going to try to replace him with Carmelo Anthony.
via SportsCenter

Read more at http://www.basketballinsiders.com/heat- ... XrkFqQF.99

The Rockets don't have enough cap room yet to sign Chris Bosh. They need to get rid of Lin. Easier said than done.

Anyway, the keyword in the sentence is try !

Lebron and Melo both wants max contracts. For Melo it's a contract starting at approx $22 mil and for Lebron it's $20 million. That's already $42 million. Even if you add Wade at $12 million, that's roughly $54 million. Add Norris Cole and cap holds for empty roster spots and you don't have much cap room to sign free agents, only min vet salaries. No PG, no C, no real PF. I doubt that team would go deep in the playoffs.

Lebron and Melo playing together in Miami makes sense only if Wade is let go or resigns for the MLE. Then they would have enough cap room to sign a PG and a C. OBviously it won't happen, Wade didn't opt out without guarantee he would recoup his money long term one way or another. Wade needs to sign at least a multiyear $10+ million contract.

If Lebron and Melo are so desperate to play together (frankly I don't understand why) then they should both sign a one-year deal and sign with the Knicks or Lakers in 2015 as both teams will probably have enough cap room to sign them next year.

Anyway I don't think Bosh will leave the Heat. I still think they already have some kind of agreement. If Riley can't attract free agents and improve the team then all three players will probably sign a one-year contract (+ an option year) and then Riley will have tremendous pressure to improve the team in 2015 of Lebron will leave Miami. I don't think Wade and Bosh left all that money on the table without a guarantee they will get their money (contract) back if their plan (add a PG, Lowry, and a C) fell apart.

[bishnykfan]

I am wondering why Melo hasn't signed yet. If he wants to come back to NY, he knows what Phil is all about and has supposedly been offered a max contract. I'm starting to think that he is delaying his decision so he can either end up in Miami with Lebron or in Chicago. It seems to me that he is using the LA max story to put off his signing. I'm not saying that he won't end up back in NY if Lebron goes to Cleveland or if Chicago can't get him his max contract, but if he really wanted to sign in NY, then what is he waiting for?

Melo said it best when he said he planned to opt out and wanted to be a free agent. He wanted that experience, he wanted to be courted, wined and dined, etc. It's obviously an ego thing. The guy wanted to know how much he's worth and how many teams would go hard after him. There was no reason for him to accept a max offer as soon as it was tendered by Phil Jackson and Jimmy Dolan. It seems he's been waiting for that kind of experience for a long time so he will enjoy every minute of it !

In that interview, he also hinted winning a title wasn't essential for him.

It's inevitable he will accept the max contract offer from the Knicks. He will take the money and think about winning later ! It's just a matter of time.

I agree with you Kos, I've thought all along that Melo would sign for the max with the Knicks. And I would never begrudge him his right to be wined and dined and let teams stroke his ego. I still think that he will eventually end up back in NY, but it just seems to me that he may not really want to be here. Whether that means he wants Chicago like 2010 believes or he wants Lebron. It doesn't mean that things will work out that way because I have always felt like he wanted the contract more, but could he be delaying to see if he can get everything he wants, ie the max in Chicago or with Lebron?