The MeloPause Trade Thread

[NBA Fan 1234]

Since we can assume that Melo would prefer playing with Cleveland or Houston over New York, what I would really like to know is if Melo would prefer New York over the 27 other teams in the NBA.

I'm surprised Melo's "team" or "people" haven't reached out to any beat writer or reporter with the scoop that Melo is willing to play out another season with the Knicks if it came down to it. I feel that would be a power play on Melo's part and would put the pressure on the Knicks' brass to desperately get a deal done.

The FO just said today we're rebuilding with or without Melo. Him saying that he's willing to play with the Knicks for another year doesn't affect us either way.

[mpharris36]

Since we can assume that Melo would prefer playing with Cleveland or Houston over New York, what I would really like to know is if Melo would prefer New York over the 27 other teams in the NBA.

I'm surprised Melo's "team" or "people" haven't reached out to any beat writer or reporter with the scoop that Melo is willing to play out another season with the Knicks if it came down to it. I feel that would be a power play on Melo's part and would put the pressure on the Knicks' brass to desperately get a deal done.

The FO just said today we're rebuilding with or without Melo. Him saying that he's willing to play with the Knicks for another year doesn't affect us either way.

curious.

say HOU really wasn't able to improve there offer we were still getting stuck with a bad contract no matter how you look at it. I agree we all say no unless its multiple unprotected picks.

Now lets say LeBron lights a fire under CLE front office to make a move. I believe the Love/Melo ship has sailed.

But instead your two options were to keep Melo or trade him for Shumpert/Frye/Jefferson/Felder rights to Osman and a future 1st round pick.

Would you do that trade? It's not the sexiest but assuming we can move shumpert either to a 3rd team for an expiring and maybe a small asset you would take no long term $$$ back and at least get a few assets and rid yourself of the potential headache...or do you consider that selling too low?

Because I have a hard time seeing why CLE wouldn't offer this. I mean Frye I guess has some kind of value but no one else really is important to the cavs.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Since we can assume that Melo would prefer playing with Cleveland or Houston over New York, what I would really like to know is if Melo would prefer New York over the 27 other teams in the NBA.

I'm surprised Melo's "team" or "people" haven't reached out to any beat writer or reporter with the scoop that Melo is willing to play out another season with the Knicks if it came down to it. I feel that would be a power play on Melo's part and would put the pressure on the Knicks' brass to desperately get a deal done.

The FO just said today we're rebuilding with or without Melo. Him saying that he's willing to play with the Knicks for another year doesn't affect us either way.

curious.

say HOU really wasn't able to improve there offer we were still getting stuck with a bad contract no matter how you look at it. I agree we all say no unless its multiple unprotected picks.

Now lets say LeBron lights a fire under CLE front office to make a move. I believe the Love/Melo ship has sailed.

But instead your two options were to keep Melo or trade him for Shumpert/Frye/Jefferson/Felder rights to Osman and a future 1st round pick.

Would you do that trade? It's not the sexiest but assuming we can move shumpert either to a 3rd team for an expiring and maybe a small asset you would take no long term $$$ back and at least get a few assets and rid yourself of the potential headache...or do you consider that selling too low?

Because I have a hard time seeing why CLE wouldn't offer this. I mean Frye I guess has some kind of value but no one else really is important to the cavs.

I'd look to send Frye somewhere else. I don't want him on the Knicks. I'd also ask for another first round pick. If they are really feeling pressure from LeBron, they'd pony up.

[mpharris36]

The FO just said today we're rebuilding with or without Melo. Him saying that he's willing to play with the Knicks for another year doesn't affect us either way.

curious.

say HOU really wasn't able to improve there offer we were still getting stuck with a bad contract no matter how you look at it. I agree we all say no unless its multiple unprotected picks.

Now lets say LeBron lights a fire under CLE front office to make a move. I believe the Love/Melo ship has sailed.

But instead your two options were to keep Melo or trade him for Shumpert/Frye/Jefferson/Felder rights to Osman and a future 1st round pick.

Would you do that trade? It's not the sexiest but assuming we can move shumpert either to a 3rd team for an expiring and maybe a small asset you would take no long term $$$ back and at least get a few assets and rid yourself of the potential headache...or do you consider that selling too low?

Because I have a hard time seeing why CLE wouldn't offer this. I mean Frye I guess has some kind of value but no one else really is important to the cavs.

I'd look to send Frye somewhere else. I don't want him on the Knicks. I'd also ask for another first round pick. If they are really feeling pressure from LeBron, they'd pony up.

i get what you would want to ask but I am wondering. Let's say CLE knows HOU can only offer a pick and longer term contract. And CLE wasn't going to bid against themselves.

They at least provided the knicks with expirings, osman, and a 1st round pick. Lets say the other 1st round pick wasn't on the table because I don't think it would.

And whatever you wanted to do with Shump + Frye after the deal (if you can possibly get a 2nd round pick or two) + buying out Jefferson...is that something if that was your best offer do you pull the trigger.

[NBA Fan 1234]

curious.

say HOU really wasn't able to improve there offer we were still getting stuck with a bad contract no matter how you look at it. I agree we all say no unless its multiple unprotected picks.

Now lets say LeBron lights a fire under CLE front office to make a move. I believe the Love/Melo ship has sailed.

But instead your two options were to keep Melo or trade him for Shumpert/Frye/Jefferson/Felder rights to Osman and a future 1st round pick.

Would you do that trade? It's not the sexiest but assuming we can move shumpert either to a 3rd team for an expiring and maybe a small asset you would take no long term $$$ back and at least get a few assets and rid yourself of the potential headache...or do you consider that selling too low?

Because I have a hard time seeing why CLE wouldn't offer this. I mean Frye I guess has some kind of value but no one else really is important to the cavs.

I'd look to send Frye somewhere else. I don't want him on the Knicks. I'd also ask for another first round pick. If they are really feeling pressure from LeBron, they'd pony up.

i get what you would want to ask but I am wondering. Let's say CLE knows HOU can only offer a pick and longer term contract. And CLE wasn't going to bid against themselves.

They at least provided the knicks with expirings, osman, and a 1st round pick. Lets say the other 1st round pick wasn't on the table because I don't think it would.

And whatever you wanted to do with Shump + Frye after the deal (if you can possibly get a 2nd round pick or two) + buying out Jefferson...is that something if that was your best offer do you pull the trigger.

Don't think I would, but I'd think about it I guess. Osman is intriguing and the first will be good once LeBron leaves (which I think he does). The way I see it, if they want Melo so badly, they need to do the heavy pulling. We can help, but they need to find a way to get another pick - preferably by rerouting Shump. RJ's contract isn't the issue, I simply don't want Shump back and I'd want another asset. We have no reason to settle.

[mpharris36]

see I would give HOU a few more weeks. But if we get closer to training camp and this is the best offer on the table. Do you really just let Melo leave for nothing? The trade does not hurt our future cap space...it gives us a couple assets (osman + future 1st). Maybe even Felder becomes something.

Maybe you get a a couple 2nds re-routing shump/frye...

I think the idea of melo getting a couple 1sts is just out the window. I mean we could hold out but then you are left with nothing. If thats the case and you did your due diligence and felt you if you waited you might risk losing Melo for nothing + the distraction with a disgruntled player all year with the young players isn't "ideal"

do you take expirings, osman, and a 1st and run? I probably would. I would def try to all the teams first but if that is the settle i would have to go there because losing melo for nothing when also is a bad optics move as well. As long as no long terms contracts are coming all offers should be considered in my opinion.

[Crunchknicks1]

The cavs need a 3rd team and give up picks to take Shump and Frye or TT. They need to do something l James will leave he proved that. They need to step it up. Knicks will not take Frye or Shump period they made that clear. They want young players to build around they done need Shump they signed Tim. The Cavs have work to do

[mpharris36]

don't get me wrong though KT I respect your stance on it. I think I would take a few smallers assets + no long term deals and not have to deal with the headache all year.

Thats just me personally...

[NBA Fan 1234]

see I would give HOU a few more weeks. But if we get closer to training camp and this is the best offer on the table. Do you really just let Melo leave for nothing? The trade does not hurt our future cap space...it gives us a couple assets (osman + future 1st). Maybe even Felder becomes something.

Maybe you get a a couple 2nds re-routing shump/frye...

I think the idea of melo getting a couple 1sts is just out the window. I mean we could hold out but then you are left with nothing. If thats the case and you did your due diligence and felt you if you waited you might risk losing Melo for nothing + the distraction with a disgruntled player all year with the young players isn't "ideal"

do you take expirings, osman, and a 1st and run? I probably would. I would def try to all the teams first but if that is the settle i would have to go there because losing melo for nothing when also is a bad optics move as well. As long as no long terms contracts are coming all offers should be considered in my opinion.

I'd definitely take that over anything Houston could offer in a 1:1, so if it came down to us having to trade him, I'd do the deal. I would really need to make it a three way though in order to not take Shump.

[CANiLIVE]

I understand locking your best player up but that Harden contract is ridiculous and almost idiotic.

Might as well give him part ownership too.

Lol you do get that's gonna be pretty much the normal thing right, the next MVP runner up ,MVP caliber player will exceed this.

[mpharris36]

see I would give HOU a few more weeks. But if we get closer to training camp and this is the best offer on the table. Do you really just let Melo leave for nothing? The trade does not hurt our future cap space...it gives us a couple assets (osman + future 1st). Maybe even Felder becomes something.

Maybe you get a a couple 2nds re-routing shump/frye...

I think the idea of melo getting a couple 1sts is just out the window. I mean we could hold out but then you are left with nothing. If thats the case and you did your due diligence and felt you if you waited you might risk losing Melo for nothing + the distraction with a disgruntled player all year with the young players isn't "ideal"

do you take expirings, osman, and a 1st and run? I probably would. I would def try to all the teams first but if that is the settle i would have to go there because losing melo for nothing when also is a bad optics move as well. As long as no long terms contracts are coming all offers should be considered in my opinion.

I'd definitely take that over anything Houston could offer in a 1:1, so if it came down to us having to trade him, I'd do the deal. I would really need to make it a three way though in order to not take Shump.

100% agree...I originally suggested sending him to Miami for Ellington and a 2nd round pick. Ellington is an expiring plus another draft pick. I'm sure there are other teams with a less than sexy expiring that could use a solid defender in shump.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

see I would give HOU a few more weeks. But if we get closer to training camp and this is the best offer on the table. Do you really just let Melo leave for nothing? The trade does not hurt our future cap space...it gives us a couple assets (osman + future 1st). Maybe even Felder becomes something.

Maybe you get a a couple 2nds re-routing shump/frye...

I think the idea of melo getting a couple 1sts is just out the window. I mean we could hold out but then you are left with nothing. If thats the case and you did your due diligence and felt you if you waited you might risk losing Melo for nothing + the distraction with a disgruntled player all year with the young players isn't "ideal"

do you take expirings, osman, and a 1st and run? I probably would. I would def try to all the teams first but if that is the settle i would have to go there because losing melo for nothing when also is a bad optics move as well. As long as no long terms contracts are coming all offers should be considered in my opinion.

Can Melo and Love co-exist or is it a foregone conclusion that Love goes somewhere if Melo comes to the Cavs?

[CANiLIVE]

see I would give HOU a few more weeks. But if we get closer to training camp and this is the best offer on the table. Do you really just let Melo leave for nothing? The trade does not hurt our future cap space...it gives us a couple assets (osman + future 1st). Maybe even Felder becomes something.

Maybe you get a a couple 2nds re-routing shump/frye...

I think the idea of melo getting a couple 1sts is just out the window. I mean we could hold out but then you are left with nothing. If thats the case and you did your due diligence and felt you if you waited you might risk losing Melo for nothing + the distraction with a disgruntled player all year with the young players isn't "ideal"

do you take expirings, osman, and a 1st and run? I probably would. I would def try to all the teams first but if that is the settle i would have to go there because losing melo for nothing when also is a bad optics move as well. As long as no long terms contracts are coming all offers should be considered in my opinion.

I'd definitely take that over anything Houston could offer in a 1:1, so if it came down to us having to trade him, I'd do the deal. I would really need to make it a three way though in order to not take Shump.

There's no rush for the knicks to get a deal, I doubt the knicks are looking for trades it seems more like we're just taking calls waiting.

We're not winning a ring this year, most likely not being a playoff team, that's with or without melo. Knicks are putting the team 1st, there trying to get back into Melos good graces. Trying to run damage control on the whole franchise so giving melo the good soldier treatment is expected.

Lebron just voiced his displeasure with the cavs not making a move so that gives us leverage, rockets are known for really wanting melo and the blazers being interested just shows what waiting for a deal can generate better deals, if it takes to September or trade deadline so be it.

No forced deals and I think mills and perry understand rockets and cavs need melo, knicks really don't but his teammates love him and another mentoring year is always good.

[egelband]

How about this? Knicks hire Kim Jong-Un as Director of Player Personnel and GM. Win-win.

[mademan]

see I would give HOU a few more weeks. But if we get closer to training camp and this is the best offer on the table. Do you really just let Melo leave for nothing? The trade does not hurt our future cap space...it gives us a couple assets (osman + future 1st). Maybe even Felder becomes something.

Maybe you get a a couple 2nds re-routing shump/frye...

I think the idea of melo getting a couple 1sts is just out the window. I mean we could hold out but then you are left with nothing. If thats the case and you did your due diligence and felt you if you waited you might risk losing Melo for nothing + the distraction with a disgruntled player all year with the young players isn't "ideal"

do you take expirings, osman, and a 1st and run? I probably would. I would def try to all the teams first but if that is the settle i would have to go there because losing melo for nothing when also is a bad optics move as well. As long as no long terms contracts are coming all offers should be considered in my opinion.

Can Melo and Love co-exist or is it a foregone conclusion that Love goes somewhere if Melo comes to the Cavs?

Either that or Melo is a 30 million dollar bench player. I cant imagine Lebron or Melo wanting to play full time SG and Love starting at C beside Melo at PF might be the worst defense in the league.

[mpharris36]

see I would give HOU a few more weeks. But if we get closer to training camp and this is the best offer on the table. Do you really just let Melo leave for nothing? The trade does not hurt our future cap space...it gives us a couple assets (osman + future 1st). Maybe even Felder becomes something.

Maybe you get a a couple 2nds re-routing shump/frye...

I think the idea of melo getting a couple 1sts is just out the window. I mean we could hold out but then you are left with nothing. If thats the case and you did your due diligence and felt you if you waited you might risk losing Melo for nothing + the distraction with a disgruntled player all year with the young players isn't "ideal"

do you take expirings, osman, and a 1st and run? I probably would. I would def try to all the teams first but if that is the settle i would have to go there because losing melo for nothing when also is a bad optics move as well. As long as no long terms contracts are coming all offers should be considered in my opinion.

Can Melo and Love co-exist or is it a foregone conclusion that Love goes somewhere if Melo comes to the Cavs?

I think they would test it out early but whos coming off the bench in that situation...Melo ain't going to the cavs to be a 6th man. So that means loves comes off the bench? Not sure how he would dig that...probably why Melo prefers HOU he knows CP3 and Harden would get him his looks.

[egelband]

JUMFKB

[bleedblue3303]

Maybe Melo expands the list. I don't think mentoring a bunch of young guys and not making the playoffs is on his list of priorities. Something tells me spurs miami and maybe even Toronto become options within a month


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[Billy Goat]

I'm really thinking the trade won't happen till close to the season or trade deadline, seems like there's no real need to rush the team into a bad move, perry might start reaching out to melo seeing if he will be willing to be a mentor for kp.

Knicks are trying to change the perception of them not wanting melo to melo will be a good vet for our young players.

Making him seem as a asset rather than trash outside msg, it's how the situation should've been handled the 1st time around.

Very telling how the front office wants to move, A lot of damage control to be done.

Would be interesting to see his reaction if the Knicks flat out told him youre not going to be playing 40 minutes for us anymore. I mean the writing is on the wall there(assuming DOlan has greenlighted getting rid of him). There's a massive logjam on the roster at wing right now. You have Hardaway on a new big contract, Lee still here, a touchy situation with Porzingis who wants more shots not less....and Melo who's used to commanding 20+ shots every night. That right there is going to be a problem for any coach to handle. There's only 1 ball and 5 guys on the floor at once, obviously.

[ForzaMetro]

Maybe Melo expands the list. I don't think mentoring a bunch of young guys and not making the playoffs is on his list of priorities. Something tells me spurs miami and maybe even Toronto become options within a month


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More the merrier. As frustrating as the pause is, I think it's the smart move.