FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc

Post #1841 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:10 pm

kinda hoping the knicks don't trade for AD, but if they did and were able to sign KD... is it enough to compete for a title?

say they sent kanter, knox, frank, and 4 1st (including 2019 unprotected). they probably have enough to keep DJ in the fold another year before extending over cap to fit the AD/KD window.

DSJ
dot
KD
AD
deandre/mitch

ring chasers, rookie scales.

does that group have what it takes to win it all? if not, i don't see the point in trading for AD before the summer when you could turn deandre into kyrie or kawhi or klay. or even middleton.

Post #1842 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:11 pm

Stannis wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
Greenie wrote:Yes

it's not us. it's the media.

We need an Eli Manning type #1 option on the Knicks. Somebody who doesn't let the media get to him. Somebody who doesn't read the tabloids and the NYPost.

With Kevin Durant's burner accounts, I don't think he's the guy.

i am highly concerned it would break him.

WargamesX · Post #1843 » by **WargamesX** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:18 pm

I don't know I think his F--k you to the media mentality will fit in perfect with Dolan and the Knicks.

SARGO127 · Post #1844 » by **SARGO127** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:19 pm

Deadline day!!!

DowNY · Post #1845 » by **DowNY** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:19 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:kinda hoping the knicks don't trade for AD, but if they did and were able to sign KD... is it enough to compete for a title?

say they sent kanter, knox, frank, and 4 1st (including 2019 unprotected). they probably have enough to keep DJ in the fold another year before extending over cap to fit the AD/KD window.

DSJ
dot
KD
AD
deandre/mitch

ring chasers, rookie scales.

does that group have what it takes to win it all? if not, i don't see the point in trading for AD before the summer when you could turn deandre into kyrie or kawhi or klay. or even middleton.

I think it depends on how much DSJr & Mitchell can develop.
I’d prefer to wait until summer for this trade though. Patience is a future. Big 3 better than a Dominate Duo.

Post #1846 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:20 pm

Durant alone would probably end up being a huge failure and I could see some major meltdown.

If we can bring in another superstar and build a winner then it could be one of the greatest things the franchise has seen in 20+ years if not since the early 70's teams.

Seems like these things either go one way or another and there is not a lot of in between.

matchman · Post #1847 » by **matchman** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:23 pm

Let's get this thread to 200 pages.

JXL · Post #1848 » by **JXL** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:23 pm

Stannis wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
Greenie wrote:Yes

it's not us. it's the media.

We need an Eli Manning type #1 option on the Knicks. Somebody who doesn't let the media get to him. Somebody who doesn't read the tabloids and the NYPost.

With Kevin Durant's burner accounts, I don't think he's the guy.

He's probably going to have to be brain dead then :lol:

JXL · Post #1849 » by **JXL** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:26 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Durant alone would probably end up being a huge failure and I could see some major meltdown.

If we can bring in another superstar and build a winner then it could be one of the greatest things the franchise has seen in 20+ years if not since the early 70's teams.

Seems like these things either go one way or another and there is not a lot of in between.

Perry's vision is to get Durant, reel in Kyrie, get the Pels to give us AD if this year's pick is top 2 (hoepfully convince them to swap), keep the youth, and fill out the bench by way of VETERAN'S MINIMUMS.

In GM Perry's mind: I GOT THIS

Greenie · Post #1850 » by **Greenie** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:27 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Durant alone would probably end up being a huge failure and I could see some major meltdown.

If we can bring in another superstar and build a winner then it could be one of the greatest things the franchise has seen in 20+ years if not since the early 70's teams.

Seems like these things either go one way or another and there is not a lot of in between.

We set ourselves up for this though. No true rebuild and the kids don’t look that great.

Post #1851 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:31 pm

Greenie wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Durant alone would probably end up being a huge failure and I could see some major meltdown.

If we can bring in another superstar and build a winner then it could be one of the greatest things the franchise has seen in 20+ years if not since the early 70's teams.

Seems like these things either go one way or another and there is not a lot of in between.

We set ourselves up for this though. No true rebuild and the kids don’t look that great.

We could easily go into true rebuild from here, but not sure if that will happen or not. There are so many different ways we can go from here it will interesting to see how it goes.

robillionaire · Post #1852 » by **robillionaire** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:32 pm

Greenie wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Durant alone would probably end up being a huge failure and I could see some major meltdown.

If we can bring in another superstar and build a winner then it could be one of the greatest things the franchise has seen in 20+ years if not since the early 70's teams.

Seems like these things either go one way or another and there is not a lot of in between.

We set ourselves up for this though. No true rebuild and the kids don’t look that great.

Well, good news is that it looks like a true rebuild now. Worst team in the nba and we traded the franchise player for a young prospect and first round draft picks

newyorker4ever · Post #1853 » by **newyorker4ever** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:34 pm

WargamesX wrote:
Nyk4lyfe wrote:This Barnes trade might bite us in the ass.

1) One legitimate organization (Macs) has entered the max contract convo (they now have 32 to 37 mil in cap space) = more competition

2) If they end up using that cap space nicely, those 2021 and 2023 picks will not be pretty for us

Pretty sure they are going to go hard at Vucevic with a Max offer.

Yeah this is what i was hearing when they made the trade for KP. He's a better Kanter cause he can do everything Kanter does around the basket and do it a little better but he can also shoot the ball all the way out to the 3 point line and just like Kanter he can't/doesn't play defense.

matchman · Post #1854 » by **matchman** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:36 pm

I am all for a slow cook, or a slow rebuild like that of sixers or even bucks did, and pull the trigger when we are ready to compete. If big fish don't come this summer, wait for the next summer.

newyorker4ever · Post #1855 » by **newyorker4ever** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:38 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Durant alone would probably end up being a huge failure and I could see some major meltdown.

If we can bring in another superstar and build a winner then it could be one of the greatest things the franchise has seen in 20+ years if not since the early 70's teams.

Seems like these things either go one way or another and there is not a lot of in between.

We not only have the money to sign two max players but also have the trade assets to trade for another high salary player like AD or B.Beal or one of D.Lilliard/CJ McCollum or M.Conley but we have to sign the two max players first and then make the trade.

Post #1856 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:38 pm

JXL wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Durant alone would probably end up being a huge failure and I could see some major meltdown.

If we can bring in another superstar and build a winner then it could be one of the greatest things the franchise has seen in 20+ years if not since the early 70's teams.

Seems like these things either go one way or another and there is not a lot of in between.

Perry's vision is to get Durant, reel in Kyrie, get the Pels to give us AD if this year's pick is top 2 (hoepfully convince them to swap), keep the youth, and fill out the bench by way of VETERAN'S MINIMUMS.

In GM Perry's mind: I GOT THIS

I really hope he pulls it off and if he does he will be a legend. A lot can go wrong too...hoping for the best, preparing for the worst

Post #1857 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:39 pm

DowNY wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:kinda hoping the knicks don't trade for AD, but if they did and were able to sign KD... is it enough to compete for a title?

say they sent kanter, knox, frank, and 4 1st (including 2019 unprotected). they probably have enough to keep DJ in the fold another year before extending over cap to fit the AD/KD window.

DSJ
dot
KD
AD
deandre/mitch

ring chasers, rookie scales.

does that group have what it takes to win it all? if not, i don't see the point in trading for AD before the summer when you could turn deandre into kyrie or kawhi or klay. or even middleton.

I think it depends on how much DSJr & Mitchell can develop.
I’d prefer to wait until summer for this trade though. Patience is a future. Big 3 better than a Dominate Duo.

even if that duo is arguably the two most dominant players in the league?

Kampuchea · Post #1858 » by **Kampuchea** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:44 pm

If KD and Irving came over, I am more concerned with Irving and the media. KD seems to get angry while Irving seems to get emotional (sometimes angry, sometimes soft, all over).

It is too bad we have "fans" that eat up all of the media nonsense, the ones chanter for Kanter every game. Those are the ones that buy into the media garbage.

Greenie · Post #1859 » by **Greenie** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:44 pm

I feel like we should set our sights on this guy:

SARGO127 · Post #1860 » by **SARGO127** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:46 pm

Greenie wrote:I feel like we should set our sights on this guy:

I’m a happy camper if we end up like this next year with room for a max headed in to next summer.

Robinson|Kornet|*Spalding
Williamson|Vonleh|Thomas
Knox|Dotson|Bazley
Brogdon|Trier|<TwoWay>
Smith Jr|Ntilikina|<TwoWay>

Free Agent
Draft Pick
*Signed after we waive Kanter

Why