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Re: BaF Season Three: Offseason thread- PICK #59 Ky Bowman (Dallas is on the clock until 12AM) 

Post#1841 » by SOUL » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:45 am

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SOUL wrote:2nd rounder prices still need to be modified I think at least late late ones... maybe next draft.



I kind of agreed with you until 15 out of 22 players from last years second round got their third year options picked up (from the teams that responded). That made me think that the value was about right tbh.

Also, the final ten players in the draft cost $5 or less. Or the equivalent of a $534,000 contract in the NBA. Real second round picks sign for more money then we are paying our second rounders.


Oh yeah, on that I agree, I just mean compared to free agency.. but that's probably more on us and money management than the system. :lol: But it does create for some funky value contracts.
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Re: BaF Season Three: Offseason thread- PICK #59 Ky Bowman (Dallas is on the clock until 12AM) 

Post#1842 » by bishnykfan » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:55 am

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bishnykfan wrote:
SOUL wrote:2nd rounder prices still need to be modified I think at least late late ones... maybe next draft.



I kind of agreed with you until 15 out of 22 players from last years second round got their third year options picked up (from the teams that responded). That made me think that the value was about right tbh.

Also, the final ten players in the draft cost $5 or less. Or the equivalent of a $534,000 contract in the NBA. Real second round picks sign for more money then we are paying our second rounders.


Oh yeah, on that I agree, I just mean compared to free agency.. but that's probably more on us and money management than the system. :lol: But it does create for some funky value contracts.



That's true. There will definitely be a few bargains in free agency considering half the league is either at or over the 15 man roster limit or at the salary cap. Cap management and roster construction have always been an important aspect. Just like real life, some teams handle those aspects better then others. The real test will be next year, when there is the first crop of legit free agents. It is interesting to watch from this angle!
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Re: BaF Season Three: Offseason thread- PICK #59 Ky Bowman (Dallas is on the clock until 12AM) 

Post#1843 » by Manhattan Project » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:55 am

bishnykfan wrote:I kind of agreed with you until 15 out of 22 players from last years second round got their third year options picked up (from the teams that responded). That made me think that the value was about right tbh.

Also, the final ten players in the draft cost $5 or less. Or the equivalent of a $534,000 contract in the NBA. Real second round picks sign for more money then we are paying our second rounders.


Just a small heads up, Eric Paschall is listed on my team. I know I traded the pick in a previous deal, not sure if that pick got lost in all the madness.

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Re: BaF Season Three: Offseason thread- PICK #59 Ky Bowman (Dallas is on the clock until 12AM) 

Post#1844 » by ribs » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:03 am

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Re: BaF Season Three: Offseason thread- PICK #59 Ky Bowman (Dallas is on the clock until 12AM) 

Post#1845 » by SOUL » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:07 am

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I kind of agreed with you until 15 out of 22 players from last years second round got their third year options picked up (from the teams that responded). That made me think that the value was about right tbh.

Also, the final ten players in the draft cost $5 or less. Or the equivalent of a $534,000 contract in the NBA. Real second round picks sign for more money then we are paying our second rounders.


Oh yeah, on that I agree, I just mean compared to free agency.. but that's probably more on us and money management than the system. :lol: But it does create for some funky value contracts.



That's true. There will definitely be a few bargains in free agency considering half the league is either at or over the 15 man roster limit or at the salary cap. Cap management and roster construction have always been an important aspect. Just like real life, some teams handle those aspects better then others. The real test will be next year, when there is the first crop of legit free agents. It is interesting to watch from this angle!


For sure. Now that I think about it, it's probably the years more than anything with second rounders. It's way more worth it to invest in free agency because not only could you get steals for pricing, but can control the years better as well. You can justify investing in lottery 1st rounders per their price because usually they'll get a chance to get some playing time at least IRL, and if they're good, be impactful in years 1, 2, and be a star by 3. With late 1sts to mid 2nds, say if you have two early 2nd rounders, you're investing $20-25 in two players that will most likely begin to show solid efficiency and being a plus on the court (if all goes well) in their 3rd year which is when they are on their final year.

But yeah, it's an imperfect science and nothing will make everything make sense.. drafting is just too much fun. :lol:
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Re: BaF Season Three: Offseason thread- PICK #59 Ky Bowman (Dallas is on the clock until 12AM) 

Post#1846 » by bishnykfan » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:25 am

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bishnykfan wrote:
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Oh yeah, on that I agree, I just mean compared to free agency.. but that's probably more on us and money management than the system. :lol: But it does create for some funky value contracts.



That's true. There will definitely be a few bargains in free agency considering half the league is either at or over the 15 man roster limit or at the salary cap. Cap management and roster construction have always been an important aspect. Just like real life, some teams handle those aspects better then others. The real test will be next year, when there is the first crop of legit free agents. It is interesting to watch from this angle!


For sure. Now that I think about it, it's probably the years more than anything with second rounders. It's way more worth it to invest in free agency because not only could you get steals for pricing, but can control the years better as well. You can justify investing in lottery 1st rounders per their price because usually they'll get a chance to get some playing time at least IRL, and if they're good, be impactful in years 1, 2, and be a star by 3. With late 1sts to mid 2nds, say if you have two early 2nd rounders, you're investing $20-25 in two players that will most likely begin to show solid efficiency and being a plus on the court (if all goes well) in their 3rd year which is when they are on their final year.

But yeah, it's an imperfect science and nothing will make everything make sense.. drafting is just too much fun. :lol:


Agree...but with the new extension rule, you can actually control a second rounder for up to five years at a very low cost too. So in some ways, hitting on a second rounder maybe more valuable in the long run. Either way, I agree with you, I think drafting is the most fun part of the game. I know I learn a ton about the players in the real draft from researching the guys who get picked here.
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Post#1847 » by ribs » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:25 am



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Post#1849 » by Capn'O » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:57 am

I am waaaaaay more invested in where my BAF guys are picked than what the Knicks do. The draft is so fun.
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Post#1850 » by Capn'O » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:59 am

Next year won't be as good though because it'll just be mpharris picking Lonnie Walker after Lonnie Walker.
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Post#1851 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:18 am

Capn'O wrote:Next year won't be as good though because it'll just be mpharris picking Lonnie Walker after Lonnie Walker.

LOnnie gunna ball this year
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Re: BaF Season Three: Offseason thread- PICK #59 Ky Bowman (Dallas is on the clock until 12AM) 

Post#1853 » by bishnykfan » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:58 am

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bishnykfan wrote:I kind of agreed with you until 15 out of 22 players from last years second round got their third year options picked up (from the teams that responded). That made me think that the value was about right tbh.

Also, the final ten players in the draft cost $5 or less. Or the equivalent of a $534,000 contract in the NBA. Real second round picks sign for more money then we are paying our second rounders.


Just a small heads up, Eric Paschall is listed on my team. I know I traded the pick in a previous deal, not sure if that pick got lost in all the madness.

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- The Utah Jazz have agreed to trade Malik Monk along with 2019 and 2020 second round draft picks to the Charlotte Hornets in exchange for Aaron Gordon.



Ok, figured it out...you had the second best record in the league last year so the pick you traded was #59. Paschall was picked at what would have been #46 if you hadn't been skipped. #46 originally belonged to Phoenix. Phoenix traded it to Denver, Denver traded it to you. So that was your pick and Paschall is yours. It isn't easy tracking all these picks with the amount of trades in this league! :D


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Post#1854 » by Capn'O » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:25 am

mpharris36 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Next year won't be as good though because it'll just be mpharris picking Lonnie Walker after Lonnie Walker.

LOnnie gunna ball this year


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Re: BaF Season Three: Offseason thread- PICK #59 Ky Bowman (Dallas is on the clock until 12AM) 

Post#1855 » by King of Canada » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:52 am

mpharris36 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Next year won't be as good though because it'll just be mpharris picking Lonnie Walker after Lonnie Walker.

LOnnies gunna ball this year


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Post#1856 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:16 pm

SOUL wrote:2nd rounder prices still need to be modified I think at least late late ones... maybe next draft.


If there was an option to move any 2nd rounder to the exempt list until the trade deadline so you have time to figure out if you want to keep them or not, while also leaving options open in free agency, I think it would be helpful.
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Post#1857 » by NewEra » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:37 pm

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Re: BaF Season Three: Offseason thread- PICK #59 Ky Bowman (Dallas is on the clock until 12AM) 

Post#1858 » by 2010 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:43 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
SOUL wrote:2nd rounder prices still need to be modified I think at least late late ones... maybe next draft.


If there was an option to move any 2nd rounder to the exempt list until the trade deadline so you have time to figure out if you want to keep them or not, while also leaving options open in free agency, I think it would be helpful.


If this is implemented it should not go into effect until BaF Season Four.
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Post#1859 » by King of Canada » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:27 pm

Any chance we can vote on K-dot’s amendment to the extension rule before FA? It would greatly effect my offseason.
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Post#1860 » by Smash3 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:33 pm

King of Canada wrote:Any chance we can vote on K-dot’s amendment to the extension rule before FA? It would greatly effect my offseason.


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