OT: NFL Draft Thread

[thebuzzardman]

This was wonderfully hilarious

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@2:00 - "I don't Kevin's face right now"

I was almost crying through that whole thing

[MrDollarBills]

This was wonderfully hilarious

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Are they really crying over a RB?

[thebuzzardman]

This was wonderfully hilarious

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Are they really crying over a RB?

Right? They should save it for appropriate situations, like ignominious first round playoff exists!

[TerrenceClarke]

This was wonderfully hilarious

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Are they really crying over a RB?

How are they crying? It’s not just any RB it’s the best RB in the raft that went to a rival. Schit I said two days ago I wished we drafted him in the second as as well.

Giants fans do the same **** when a stud goes In The NFC East

Giants fans was “crying” the same way when parsons was selected by Dallas last year. There is nothing crying about what they did. It’s normal Fan stuff lol

If he was selected by the packers I doubt the would have cared as much. This type of convo happens all the time inside the divisions with fan bases.

Let the eagles get a player giants fans wanted and watch what happens…. Lol.

I see nothing but die hard bills fans tight they rival got a player they needed when they could have gotten him. Nothing more nothing less.

A lot of Our fanbase was the same way just a year ago.

[MrDollarBills]

This was wonderfully hilarious

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Are they really crying over a RB?

Right? They should save it for appropriate situations, like ignominious first round playoff exists!

I'm already over it and I wish those two had signed with you guys instead of us. I literally hate everyone involved.

But back to football lol, i really must be traumatized by Dave Gettleman taking Saquon Barkley at #2 because my overall opinion of RBs has gone into the toilet and i can't understand Bills fans upset over the Jets taking Hall. The guy that they took is pretty decent he just needs to improve as a pass blocker.

[MrDollarBills]

This was wonderfully hilarious

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Are they really crying over a RB?

How are they crying? It’s not just any RB it’s the best RB in the raft that went to a rival. Schit I said two days ago I wished we drafted him in the second as as well.

Giants fans do the same **** when a stud goes In The NFC East

Giants fans was “crying” the same way when parsons was selected by Dallas last year. There is nothing crying about what they did. It’s normal Fan stuff lol

If he was selected by the packers I doubt the would have cared as much. This type of convo happens all the time inside the divisions with fan bases.

Let the eagles get a player giants fans wanted and watch what happens…. Lol.

I see nothing but die hard bills fans tight they rival got a player they needed when they could have gotten him. Nothing more nothing less.

A lot of Our fanbase was the same way just a year ago.

I dunno for me it's hard to get upset over something that wasn't ours. The draft is a first come, first serve crap shoot, I can only worry about the guys who we pick but i know other Giants fans might feel a certain way.

I would have been livid if Schoen had taken a RB in RD2 honestly

[j4remi]

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[moocow007]

As a Jet fan while I understand their desire for an pass rushing edge and some more insurance incase Bekton turns into Eddy Curry II I think they need to focus on how to make this team more dynamic on both sides of the field by taking arguably the 2 biggest playmakers in this draft. Douglas has to realize that this isn't a one year plan to turn things around.

I personally would go for Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner (CB) at 4 and Jameson Williams (WR) at 10.

Gardner is about as close as you can get to the next Deion Sanders like shutdown CB and those types of players don't grow on trees. Before he tore his ACL, Williams was projected by many as a top 3 pick and without question the most dominant WR in terms of both a deep threat as well as the ability to break away after a short pass in this draft. To get your young franchise QB a potential partner in crime for the next decade can be huge since both guys timelines line up perfectly. Both guys have Pro-Bowl upside written all over them.





They can look for an EDGE in the 3rd round. I am dubious of Kayvon Thibodeaux (the guy most linked to them) and I really don't think they need an OL as bad as many do. Giving Zach Wilson a guy that he can get the ball to quickly (be in long pass or catch and explode) is as critical as getting a blocker for him.

LOL...looks like I was actually right on with how the Jets should and did end up drafting. They went with Sauce with the 1st pick, the other game breaking WR (Wilson instead of the injured Williams) with their 2nd pick and then went with the Edge with their 3rd pick.



The fact that they didn't take a OL until late tells me that the relationship between the Jets and Bekton (as well as Bekton's overall conditioning) may not be as bad as Jets fans have been fearing. And this tweet may be an indication that Bekton may be back in the swing.

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[j4remi]

As a Jet fan while I understand their desire for an pass rushing edge and some more insurance incase Bekton turns into Eddy Curry II I think they need to focus on how to make this team more dynamic on both sides of the field by taking arguably the 2 biggest playmakers in this draft. Douglas has to realize that this isn't a one year plan to turn things around.

I personally would go for Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner (CB) at 4 and Jameson Williams (WR) at 10.

Gardner is about as close as you can get to the next Deion Sanders like shutdown CB and those types of players don't grow on trees. Before he tore his ACL, Williams was projected by many as a top 3 pick and without question the most dominant WR in terms of both a deep threat as well as the ability to break away after a short pass in this draft. To get your young franchise QB a potential partner in crime for the next decade can be huge since both guys timelines line up perfectly. Both guys have Pro-Bowl upside written all over them.





They can look for an EDGE in the 3rd round. I am dubious of Kayvon Thibodeaux (the guy most linked to them) and I really don't think they need an OL as bad as many do. Giving Zach Wilson a guy that he can get the ball to quickly (be in long pass or catch and explode) is as critical as getting a blocker for him.

LOL...looks like I was actually right on with how the Jets should and did end up drafting. They went with Sauce with the 1st pick, the other game breaking WR (Wilson instead of the injured Williams) with their 2nd pick and then went with the Edge with their 3rd pick.



The fact that they didn't take a OL until late tells me that the relationship between the Jets and Bekton (as well as Bekton's overall conditioning) may not be as bad as Jets fans have been fearing. And this tweet may be an indication that Bekton may be back in the swing.

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Thoughts on the Hall and Ruckert picks?

[moocow007]

Also 2 out of the Jets top 4 picks are currently in the running for pre-season offensive rookies of the year according to BetMGM:

Garret Wilson is currently at 4 and Breece Hall at 5.

A sign that the Jets picked guys that are high impact and ready to contribute.

[Luv those Knicks]

How are they crying? It’s not just any RB it’s the best RB in the raft that went to a rival. Schit I said two days ago I wished we drafted him in the second as as well.

Giants fans do the same **** when a stud goes In The NFC East

Giants fans was “crying” the same way when parsons was selected by Dallas last year. There is nothing crying about what they did. It’s normal Fan stuff lol

If he was selected by the packers I doubt the would have cared as much. This type of convo happens all the time inside the divisions with fan bases.

Let the eagles get a player giants fans wanted and watch what happens…. Lol.

I see nothing but die hard bills fans tight they rival got a player they needed when they could have gotten him. Nothing more nothing less.

A lot of Our fanbase was the same way just a year ago.

I agree with you. They're really just expressing frustration and you know us Knickfans did the same when we had our hearts set on drafting Seth Curry who got taken one pick before (everyone said the Knicks were going to pick him, we needed a PG and it was hardly a secret). GS picked him and Knicks ended up with Jordan Hill, nothing against Jordan Hill, who was . . . maybe OK for a few seasons, and if they'd picked deRozen who went 9, maybe that wouldn't have been so bad, but . . . we had fits over that.

The thing is, nobody says "They were expressing their frustration" or "they were sharing their pain", it's too many words, so it's nearly always said "listen to those fans crying" - it's been said about every fan based in the country, because it's just a term that's easier to say, even if it's not really accurate.

So, I agree, but, if I had a nickel for every time somebody said "knickfans are crying" - I could buy dinner with all those nickels.

[moocow007]

As a Jet fan while I understand their desire for an pass rushing edge and some more insurance incase Bekton turns into Eddy Curry II I think they need to focus on how to make this team more dynamic on both sides of the field by taking arguably the 2 biggest playmakers in this draft. Douglas has to realize that this isn't a one year plan to turn things around.

I personally would go for Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner (CB) at 4 and Jameson Williams (WR) at 10.

Gardner is about as close as you can get to the next Deion Sanders like shutdown CB and those types of players don't grow on trees. Before he tore his ACL, Williams was projected by many as a top 3 pick and without question the most dominant WR in terms of both a deep threat as well as the ability to break away after a short pass in this draft. To get your young franchise QB a potential partner in crime for the next decade can be huge since both guys timelines line up perfectly. Both guys have Pro-Bowl upside written all over them.





They can look for an EDGE in the 3rd round. I am dubious of Kayvon Thibodeaux (the guy most linked to them) and I really don't think they need an OL as bad as many do. Giving Zach Wilson a guy that he can get the ball to quickly (be in long pass or catch and explode) is as critical as getting a blocker for him.

LOL...looks like I was actually right on with how the Jets should and did end up drafting. They went with Sauce with the 1st pick, the other game breaking WR (Wilson instead of the injured Williams) with their 2nd pick and then went with the Edge with their 3rd pick.



The fact that they didn't take a OL until late tells me that the relationship between the Jets and Bekton (as well as Bekton's overall conditioning) may not be as bad as Jets fans have been fearing. And this tweet may be an indication that Bekton may be back in the swing.

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Thoughts on the Hall and Ruckert picks?

Loved the Hall pick by the Jets. Hall is a heck of a RB and has the ability to see and hit the holes in the defense real well. He's a game breaker type as a runner because of how well he see's openings and attacks it with great body control and explosive first (and second, and third, etc.) step(s). He's also strong like a bull and able to gain yards after the hit. But what really helps is Hall's ability to catch passes and then gain yards after the catch because of his top tier athletic ability. That should allow the Jets be more dynamic offensively and give Zach Wilson another weapon. I believe Hall scored athletic test scores that matches the elite RB's in the NFL today so that says a lot. Also while Michael Carter was a surprise for the Jets last year at RB, I don't think they want to rely on him to be the RB1. Hall has the potential to be one.

Ruckert was a solid pick that isn't as splashy or with as high an impact upside as the other guys picked ahead of him. I don't think he'll be a featured guy in terms of passing with the Jets and probably will serve more of a blocking or play action type guy or maybe on special teams. The Jets added a lot of impact offensive players this offseason including signing 2 TE's in free agency and I just don't think Ruckert has shown enough that he'll be considered as someone that will be a big part of their offense for the near future.

I probably would have looked at a defensive lineman instead with the Ruckert pick.

[Luv those Knicks]

The fact that they didn't take a OL until late tells me that the relationship between the Jets and Bekton (as well as Bekton's overall conditioning) may not be as bad as Jets fans have been fearing. And this tweet may be an indication that Bekton may be back in the swing.

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Line could be a strength this year with Bekton returning and the addition of Tomlinson.

That said, they signed 3 tackles and a guard among undrafted free agents plus tackle Max Mitchell in round 6 - so bringing 4 new tackles in to look at.

https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/breaking-down-new-york-jets-undrafted-free-agent-signings-kenny-yeboah-isaiah-dunn-tristan-hoge

and they just picked up guard Nate Herbig who was waived by the Eagles, so they're looking at depth options, which I think is smart. Depth is important.

That said, I'd love to see Becton back and healthy. He's a beast and he had a nice start in 2020.

[j4remi]

Loved the Hall pick by the Jets. Hall is a heck of a RB and has the ability to see and hit the holes in the defense real well. He's a game breaker type as a runner because of how well he see's openings and attacks it with great body control and explosive first (and second, and third, etc.) step(s). He's also strong like a bull and able to gain yards after the hit. But what really helps is Hall's ability to catch passes and then gain yards after the catch because of his top tier athletic ability. That should allow the Jets be more dynamic offensively and give Zach Wilson another weapon. I believe Hall scored athletic test scores that matches the elite RB's in the NFL today so that says a lot. Also while Michael Carter was a surprise for the Jets last year at RB, I don't think they want to rely on him to be the RB1. Hall has the potential to be one.

Ruckert was a solid pick that isn't as splashy or with as high an impact upside as the other guys picked ahead of him. I don't think he'll be a featured guy in terms of passing with the Jets and probably will serve more of a blocking or play action type guy or maybe on special teams. The Jets added a lot of impact offensive players this offseason including signing 2 TE's in free agency and I just don't think Ruckert has shown enough that he'll be considered as someone that will be a big part of their offense for the near future.

I probably would have looked at a defensive lineman instead with the Ruckert pick.

Definitely agree on Hall. Seeing his college production and play, I feel like we got a steal even if heads think that's a bit high to draft an RB in this day and age. I think the math's a little different if you're getting a potential every-down back. He really has homerun hitter potential.

Ruckert is interesting to me. I guess the depth there makes sense because they want to be able to run an aggressive offense even if one of their top two goes down. I've heard some scouting types say that he's a much more versatile receiver than his college play lets on, but I wouldn't be able to tell like that. I like that he's a quality blocker and a local kid.

But I agree with you...specifically, I wanted a developmental DT after we lost Foley. I also wouldn't have minded some interior O-line depth but it looks like we just picked some up off the Eagles waiver wire.

[louisorr]

hard to believe the Giants are going into the season with Jones and Barkley. I doubt a rookie tackle and a gadget receiver will unlock their potential. both guys are what they are. Shoen should know this. hopefully I'm wrong but I would have moved both.

[Ray Williams]

hard to believe the Giants are going into the season with Jones and Barkley. I doubt a rookie tackle and a gadget receiver will unlock their potential. both guys are what they are. Shoen should know this. hopefully I'm wrong but I would have moved both.

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[Polk377]

hard to believe the Giants are going into the season with Jones and Barkley. I doubt a rookie tackle and a gadget receiver will unlock their potential. both guys are what they are. Shoen should know this. hopefully I'm wrong but I would have moved both.

For the Giants it was all about the trenches last year. They couldn't move a soul in the run game for Barkley and couldn't keep a clean pocket for Jones. Most times than not if you have 2 solid Tackles anchoring your line and holding the edge both the passing and running games will open up. Glowinski was an upgrade as well over Hernandez and Ezeudu brings an active pull blocker that can lead the way. I expect Kafka to get creative this year in his play calling and adding a piece like Robinson to Toney both of whom can create confusing for the defense will go a long way.

I am most excited to see that D-Line work together in the pass rush this year. Thibodaux and Ojulari will cause havoc on the edges while Williams and Lawrence both still need to be accounted for. Wink is going to have a field day.

[moocow007]

The fact that they didn't take a OL until late tells me that the relationship between the Jets and Bekton (as well as Bekton's overall conditioning) may not be as bad as Jets fans have been fearing. And this tweet may be an indication that Bekton may be back in the swing.

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Line could be a strength this year with Bekton returning and the addition of Tomlinson.

That said, they signed 3 tackles and a guard among undrafted free agents plus tackle Max Mitchell in round 6 - so bringing 4 new tackles in to look at.

https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/breaking-down-new-york-jets-undrafted-free-agent-signings-kenny-yeboah-isaiah-dunn-tristan-hoge

and they just picked up guard Nate Herbig who was waived by the Eagles, so they're looking at depth options, which I think is smart. Depth is important.

That said, I'd love to see Becton back and healthy. He's a beast and he had a nice start in 2020.

Yeah if Bekton can return it'll be huge for the Jets and really is one of the big pivot points that could make them dangerous this season. His impact on making all these guys on the offensive side of the ball they added even better is tremendous.

[MrDollarBills]

hard to believe the Giants are going into the season with Jones and Barkley. I doubt a rookie tackle and a gadget receiver will unlock their potential. both guys are what they are. Shoen should know this. hopefully I'm wrong but I would have moved both.

There's really no reason not to kick the tires on both of them since this is a bridge season where we're cap strapped. We most likely draft Jones' replacement next April and Barkley will walk

[Kampuchea]

Mock drafts show next season is going to be a big season for QBs drafted. Giants are widely expected to take a QB.

I see Will Levis being the one mocked to the Giants so far

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2023-nfl-mock-draft-will-anderson-jr-goes-no-1-c-j-stroud-first-of-six-qbs-off-the-board-in-round-1/

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/06/new-york-giants-draft-daniel-jones-replacement-todd-mcshay-2023-mock/

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/2023-nfl-mock-draft-c-j-stroud-bryce-young-will-anderson-1st-round/

Next years draft has multiple quality QBs going top 10, why would we draft a mediocre one this year and waste a pick?