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2020 Presidential Election Thread: IT'S THE FINAL (vote) COUNTDOWN! [update pg 61: Joe Biden elected 46th POTUS]

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: IT'S THE FINAL (vote) COUNTDOWN! [update pg 61: Joe Biden elected 46th POTUS] 

Post#1841 » by Appleshampoo » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:28 am

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I was responding to you, but definitely broadcasting to everyone to just pay it no mind. It's just more fugazi spin for the news cycle. Trump is delusional. His advisers tell him to concede, but he won't, so everything you see happening are just half-hearted gestures by his lackeys to appease the stupid orangutang until they lose interest in this silly I see dead people stuff. Barr desperately needs a pardon. He's a treason weasel and will go to prison if he fails to get one. All of his weak sauce litigations are theatre for Trump and Trump alone.


https://fb.watch/1FI4XpUpHH/ We cannot underestimate the Republicans ability to tow the company line. They moved that line in a death grip by design. There is no objective truth anymore. Republicans relentlessly want blood. Watch them morph to get the Judicial gears they've rigged spinning. Watch the public debate shift to give them a false sense of credibility. Can Justice prevail? You don't deserve to win a fair election! You're a radical!


I'm not taking any of the bait. I'm not a sucker fish

Win both seats and GA and if Biden then acts like a GOP cuckold while holding control of the Senate, then get back to me


The point is Republicans gladly take the bait. Trump is going to do everything to red states to not recognize the results. To get the courts to decide long ballot count processes were flawed. Whatever. It's not going away. It's deeply concerning.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: IT'S THE FINAL (vote) COUNTDOWN! [update pg 61: Joe Biden elected 46th POTUS] 

Post#1842 » by Pointgod » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:29 am

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What's with this baby talk that Mitch is his friend?

Biden will say whatever he has to say. Saying he gets along with guys on the other side of the aisle is just a convenient white lie he feels works at this time.

You think he doesn't know Mitch is Darth Vader in turtle drag? Of course he does

But Biden is smart enough not to bait them. That's what he's doing. Not giving them any additional emotional tinder to set his presidency on fire with

Who cares if they lie and cheat and steal and are crapping all over Biden already? Of course they are. This is the GOP. They play dirty, It's the DNA

Should Biden play dirty? Yes, but not like that. He's not feeding a base of trolls and he's not falling for their trap by being so damn reactive. You're the one being reactive and judging Biden for some really pointless criticism. I thought you were going to save your smoke for the first 100 days, then evaluate. Stop falling for the easiest, stupid things like crapping on Biden for saying nice things about Republicans. He's better at this than you. He knows exactly why he is saying these things and it is not because he wants to spoon Mitch on a warm Kentucky night

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What is the Trump pathway to the Supreme Court?

Kavanaugh said this a concurring opinion a month ago,
“Late-arriving ballots open up one of the greatest risks of what might, in our era of hyperpolarized political parties and existential politics, destabilize the election result,” New York University Professor Richard Pildes wrote in a June law review article about the challenges posed by this year’s election. “If the apparent winner the morning after the election ends up losing due to late-arriving ballots, charges of a rigged election could explode. The longer after Election Day any significant changes in vote totals take place, the greater the risk that the losing side will cry that the election has been stolen.”

The case decided whether Wisconsin GOP could set firm deadlines for absentee, mail-in ballots to be arrive by election day. There's no word of significant amount of ballots arriving late in any state. A few states have laws saying not to count till election day. AG Bill Barr just opened up a DOJ investigation into "voting irregularities."

We are being asked to wait around as the Republican Party desperately conjure up evidence and throw fire into the flames of the same "hyperpolarized political parties and existential politics," Brett Kavanaugh talked about. The Republican Party operates in conspiracy. The Democrats couldn't possibly have won a fair election! If the Supreme Court stops it good because socialism! If that's the way it's going to be America is not going to survive the next 100 years.

Can any legal minds break down how the Trump team could pull this off?


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/26/in-wisconsin-ruling-supreme-court-foreshadows-election-night-cliffhanger-432725


Trump has no plan. The only chance that they had they telegraphed and played it so poorly that no serious Judge would even entertain it. They’ve lost every law suit that they’ve brought to court. They’re a bunch of clowns. Let me help you out, they haven’t provided a single credible instance of voter fraud and good luck trying to invalidate 10000-50000 votes across 5 states. It’s completely idiotic and it’s just a scam to sucker people for money to pay off Trump’s campaign debts
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: IT'S THE FINAL (vote) COUNTDOWN! [update pg 61: Joe Biden elected 46th POTUS] 

Post#1843 » by Appleshampoo » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:35 am

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What is the Trump pathway to the Supreme Court?

Kavanaugh said this a concurring opinion a month ago,
“Late-arriving ballots open up one of the greatest risks of what might, in our era of hyperpolarized political parties and existential politics, destabilize the election result,” New York University Professor Richard Pildes wrote in a June law review article about the challenges posed by this year’s election. “If the apparent winner the morning after the election ends up losing due to late-arriving ballots, charges of a rigged election could explode. The longer after Election Day any significant changes in vote totals take place, the greater the risk that the losing side will cry that the election has been stolen.”

The case decided whether Wisconsin GOP could set firm deadlines for absentee, mail-in ballots to be arrive by election day. There's no word of significant amount of ballots arriving late in any state. A few states have laws saying not to count till election day. AG Bill Barr just opened up a DOJ investigation into "voting irregularities."

We are being asked to wait around as the Republican Party desperately conjure up evidence and throw fire into the flames of the same "hyperpolarized political parties and existential politics," Brett Kavanaugh talked about. The Republican Party operates in conspiracy. The Democrats couldn't possibly have won a fair election! If the Supreme Court stops it good because socialism! If that's the way it's going to be America is not going to survive the next 100 years.

Can any legal minds break down how the Trump team could pull this off?


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/26/in-wisconsin-ruling-supreme-court-foreshadows-election-night-cliffhanger-432725


Trump has no plan. The only chance that they had they telegraphed and played it so poorly that no serious Judge would even entertain it. They’ve lost every law suit that they’ve brought to court. They’re a bunch of clowns. Let me help you out, they haven’t provided a single credible instance of voter fraud and good luck trying to invalidate 10000-50000 votes across 5 states. It’s completely idiotic and it’s just a scam to sucker people for money to pay off Trump’s campaign debts


I am not convinced Republicans think the truth matters.
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Post#1844 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:37 am

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I wasn't going to give them anything until they came up with some evidence to support their own claims because I know what will happen. Give a million and one excuse why this isn't proof of what it so plainly is evidence of and then not come up with any of their own to support their own...again. :lol:


That's a strategy I've used. I'm in a magnanimous mood today. Must be the weather. :lol:


Well the list you posted doesn’t match up with the what was posted by Phish. And there’s a reason for that because it’s a deceptive tweet that’s only showing a picture that’s favorable to Progressives. Here’s another list of Progressive challengers that lost as well. I’m assuming that the majority if not all of them signed onto Medicare4All and keep in mind it’s a lot tougher for a challenger but to save you time the guy goes through the list and 25/30 LOST their house race. I would also like to see the results from Centrist Dem challengers as well, but one thing is for sure the argument that if you supported m4all you won is simplistic and isn’t even true.

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It’s possible that neither of us are right and that policy doesn’t matter (I’m convinced of this) and maybe a great candidate can overcome any attacks against them. Here’s an interesting article from Slate discussing this:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/democrats-battle-aoc-left-vs-centrists.html


I was just thinking the same. We'd probably have to look at all of the dynamics in play with respect to each particular election. But, again, 60% of Americans - including 48% of Republicans - support enacting M4A. It's where the center of the country is right now along with a number of other progressive programs.

Please watch the David Doel video I posted. Kasich and there rest of similar thinking congresspeople are wrong.
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Post#1845 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:37 am

Appleshampoo wrote:
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Appleshampoo wrote:
https://fb.watch/1FI4XpUpHH/ We cannot underestimate the Republicans ability to tow the company line. They moved that line in a death grip by design. There is no objective truth anymore. Republicans relentlessly want blood. Watch them morph to get the Judicial gears they've rigged spinning. Watch the public debate shift to give them a false sense of credibility. Can Justice prevail? You don't deserve to win a fair election! You're a radical!


I'm not taking any of the bait. I'm not a sucker fish

Win both seats and GA and if Biden then acts like a GOP cuckold while holding control of the Senate, then get back to me


The point is Republicans gladly take the bait. Trump is going to do everything to red states to not recognize the results. To get the courts to decide long ballot count processes were flawed. Whatever. It's not going away. It's deeply concerning.


There's no evidence. The courts have thrown everything out so far. It is going away. What's concerning about that? It's pure vapor

P.S. Listen to PointGod. They're right. I said the same yesterday. They're just drawing this out to fleece suckers who will contribute to the litigation fund. They're not going to use most of that for litigation. Theyre going to keep the money or slide it over to the campaign fund to retire its debts or siphon it off there as well. This is all a ruse. It's pulp fiction used to line Trump's pockets one last time.
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Post#1848 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:47 am

https://discourseblog.com/democrats-blm-left-fighting-2020/

One thing centrist Democrats might consider is that in a lot of places, their brand is absolute garbage even if their policies are well-liked. How else do you explain a 23-point victory for a $15 minimum wage in Florida and a three-and-a-half point loss for Biden, who supported it? How do you square a 67% defeat of right-to-work in Missouri in 2018 along with a six-point loss for Claire McCaskill? What is the lesson from voters casting ballots for recreational weed in Montana and South Dakota, and medical weed in Mississippi, despite those states all going for Trump by double-digits? It’s not the fault of trans people, socialists, or Black Lives Matter.
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Post#1849 » by Oscirus » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:51 am

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I've said it over and over again. Pelosi needs to go. At some point centrist congressmen gotta start wondering wtf since they're being taking out by both progressives and conserves.
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Post#1850 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:02 am

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I'm not taking any of the bait. I'm not a sucker fish

Win both seats and GA and if Biden then acts like a GOP cuckold while holding control of the Senate, then get back to me


The point is Republicans gladly take the bait. Trump is going to do everything to red states to not recognize the results. To get the courts to decide long ballot count processes were flawed. Whatever. It's not going away. It's deeply concerning.


There's no evidence. The courts have thrown everything out so far. It is going away. What's concerning about that? It's pure vapor

P.S. Listen to PointGod. They're right. I said the same yesterday. They're just drawing this out to fleece suckers who will contribute to the litigation fund. They're not going to use most of that for litigation. Theyre going to keep the money or slide it over to the campaign fund to retire its debts or siphon it off there as well. This is all a ruse. It's pulp fiction used to line Trump's pockets one last time.


Trump's W-L record in court over this election, I believe, is 0-9 :lol:
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Post#1851 » by Phish Tank » Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:04 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Appleshampoo wrote:
The point is Republicans gladly take the bait. Trump is going to do everything to red states to not recognize the results. To get the courts to decide long ballot count processes were flawed. Whatever. It's not going away. It's deeply concerning.


There's no evidence. The courts have thrown everything out so far. It is going away. What's concerning about that? It's pure vapor

P.S. Listen to PointGod. They're right. I said the same yesterday. They're just drawing this out to fleece suckers who will contribute to the litigation fund. They're not going to use most of that for litigation. Theyre going to keep the money or slide it over to the campaign fund to retire its debts or siphon it off there as well. This is all a ruse. It's pulp fiction used to line Trump's pockets one last time.


Trump's W-L record in court over this election, I believe, is 0-9 :lol:


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Post#1852 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:10 am

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HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
There's no evidence. The courts have thrown everything out so far. It is going away. What's concerning about that? It's pure vapor

P.S. Listen to PointGod. They're right. I said the same yesterday. They're just drawing this out to fleece suckers who will contribute to the litigation fund. They're not going to use most of that for litigation. They're going to keep the money or slide it over to the campaign fund to retire its debts or siphon it of there as well. This is all a ruse. It's pulp fiction used to line Trump's pockets one last time.


Trump's W-L record in court over this election, I believe, is 0-9 :lol:


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Whenever I see or hear "Houston Game 7", the first thing that immediately comes into my mind is 3-18. :lol:
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Trump's W-L record in court over this election, I believe, is 0-9 :lol:


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Whenever I see or hear "Houston Game 7", the first thing that immediately comes into my mind is 3-18. :lol:


problem with mentioning Starks is that he actually hit 3 shots :lol:

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Post#1854 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:28 am

Trump's team set up an "election fraud hotline" and guess what happened? Calling on The Jerkey Boys. :lol:

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Post#1855 » by Oscirus » Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:43 am

Phish Tank wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
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approaching 2018 Houston Rockets Game 7 numbers.


Whenever I see or hear "Houston Game 7", the first thing that immediately comes into my mind is 3-18. :lol:


problem with mentioning Starks is that he actually hit 3 shots :lol:

Thinking Brooks Brothers Bro Matt Schlaap, sex fiend Kim Guilfoyle, and creepy Rudy will win is asking too much.

or that mets reliever with the dubious record, i forget his name anthony something I believe.
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Post#1856 » by SelbyCobra » Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:21 am

Oscirus wrote:
Phish Tank wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Whenever I see or hear "Houston Game 7", the first thing that immediately comes into my mind is 3-18. :lol:


problem with mentioning Starks is that he actually hit 3 shots :lol:

Thinking Brooks Brothers Bro Matt Schlaap, sex fiend Kim Guilfoyle, and creepy Rudy will win is asking too much.

or that mets reliever with the dubious record, i forget his name anthony something I believe.


Anthony Young. Actually a few years ago, I believe.

The most apt comparison to the 0-9 record Wingo cites is actually right in front of our faces: my 0-9 2020 NY Jets.

Only difference is that Trevor Lawrence is waiting for the Jets at the end of their ineptitude, while SDNY is waiting for the president.
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Post#1857 » by Oscirus » Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:24 am

SelbyCobra wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
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problem with mentioning Starks is that he actually hit 3 shots :lol:

Thinking Brooks Brothers Bro Matt Schlaap, sex fiend Kim Guilfoyle, and creepy Rudy will win is asking too much.

or that mets reliever with the dubious record, i forget his name anthony something I believe.


Anthony Young. Actually a few years ago, I believe.

The most apt comparison to the 0-9 record Wingo cites is actually right in front of our faces: my 0-9 2020 NY Jets.

Only difference is that Trevor Lawrence is waiting for the Jets at the end of their ineptitude, while SDNY is waiting for the president.

Hate to tell you but trevor talking about going back to college if the jets got 1. which ouch

apparently according to trump mail in voting disenfranchises voters
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Post#1858 » by SelbyCobra » Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:28 am

Oscirus wrote:
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Oscirus wrote:or that mets reliever with the dubious record, i forget his name anthony something I believe.


Anthony Young. Actually a few years ago, I believe.

The most apt comparison to the 0-9 record Wingo cites is actually right in front of our faces: my 0-9 2020 NY Jets.

Only difference is that Trevor Lawrence is waiting for the Jets at the end of their ineptitude, while SDNY is waiting for the president.

Hate to tell you but trevor talking about going back to college if the jets got 1. which ouch

apparently according to trump mail in voting disenfranchises voters
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:lmao: I saw that when it came out. If you actually believe that's happening, I've got a bridge to sell you...

Also, Justin Fields might just be better (obviously not likely at this point, but the kid is TALENTED). We will just have to wait and see!
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Post#1859 » by Capn'O » Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:36 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Trump's team set up an "election fraud hotline" and guess what happened? Calling on The Jerkey Boys. :lol:



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Updated to all but one cosigners retained their seats and one got a promotion.... to Vice President.

The notion progressives and their policies cost centrists their seats appears more ideological imagination than it is supported by the data because the data suggests quite a different narrative.
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