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2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go

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Pick one

Obi Toppin
12
12%
Tyrese Maxey
4
4%
Isaac Okoro
9
9%
Killian Hayes
33
33%
Aaron Nesmith
4
4%
RJ Hampton
2
2%
Kira Lewis
25
25%
Patrick Williams
2
2%
Devin Vassell
3
3%
Other
5
5%
 
Total votes: 99

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1841 » by El Poochio » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:47 pm

Whats Okoro's potential is based on? Someone sell it to me or show some sexy footage
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Post#1842 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:53 pm

Haven't hiked yet. Apparently my retired Marine neighbor is being a lame ass who doesn't like getting up early after splitting a fifth of whiskey with 4 beers each. That's not THAT much.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1843 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:59 pm

El Poochio wrote:Whats Okoro's potential is based on? Someone sell it to me or show some sexy footage


Well, doubtful this one clip sells you. Assume that you know he's a very good defender. And we know his shot isn't great, work in progress etc.

But the defense plus this kind of passing/court awareness I think is what has teams willing to take a shot higher in the draft:




I wouldn't hate the Okoro pick, especially MAYBE in the context of Knicks sign FVV for PG, but honestly, he's about my 5th pick, though at one point I had sold myself on him.

Not that anyone cares, but

LaMelo
Edwards
(guys I'd hope they trade up for but they won't)

Hayes
Terry

Lewis
Haliburton
Okoro
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Post#1844 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:03 pm

Pooch - another "case for Okoro" vid


Again, I'd rather they draft a PG
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1845 » by El Poochio » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:12 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
El Poochio wrote:Whats Okoro's potential is based on? Someone sell it to me or show some sexy footage


Well, doubtful this one clip sells you. Assume that you know he's a very good defender. And we know his shot isn't great, work in progress etc.

But the defense plus this kind of passing/court awareness I think is what has teams willing to take a shot higher in the draft:




I wouldn't hate the Okoro pick, especially MAYBE in the context of Knicks sign FVV for PG, but honestly, he's about my 5th pick, though at one point I had sold myself on him.

Not that anyone cares, but

LaMelo
Edwards
(guys I'd hope they trade up for but they won't)

Hayes
Terry

Lewis
Haliburton
Okoro


His wingspan is pretty meh so dont think he can be huge difference maker in D although would be solid, looks like his offense needs to be polished a lot more before that passing makes any difference

Seems weird to have him higher than Terry who can emulate Linsanity/Herro when Okoro doesnt strike as someone to change the fortune of franchise by himself
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1846 » by Juco24 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:13 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
El Poochio wrote:Whats Okoro's potential is based on? Someone sell it to me or show some sexy footage


Well, doubtful this one clip sells you. Assume that you know he's a very good defender. And we know his shot isn't great, work in progress etc.

But the defense plus this kind of passing/court awareness I think is what has teams willing to take a shot higher in the draft:




I wouldn't hate the Okoro pick, especially MAYBE in the context of Knicks sign FVV for PG, but honestly, he's about my 5th pick, though at one point I had sold myself on him.

Not that anyone cares, but

LaMelo
Edwards
(guys I'd hope they trade up for but they won't)

Hayes
Terry

Lewis
Haliburton
Okoro


Is it bad that my takeaway was hearing the announcer say "Auburn has had THREE DIFFERENT 3 MINUTE SCORING DROUGHTS". ... SMDH- he'll fit in great
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1847 » by Fat Kat » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:17 pm

El Poochio wrote:Whats Okoro's potential is based on? Someone sell it to me or show some sexy footage


He has potential to be another Gerald Wallace. Gerald made a NBA All-Defensive First Team and was an All-Star. Although he doesn’t fill our need for a shooter, that’s not bad for an eighth pick. That’s all I got
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Post#1848 » by iLLmatic860 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:17 pm

Ill take Okoro because he looks like a player opposing teams will be intimidated of. He already looks like that now imagine with Thibs
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1849 » by El Poochio » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:18 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Pooch - another "case for Okoro" vid


Again, I'd rather they draft a PG


Jimmy can get by anyone he wants easily, is Okoro even that athletic? Dubious from clips, he looks pretty strong for his age
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1850 » by El Poochio » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:22 pm

Fat Kat wrote:
El Poochio wrote:Whats Okoro's potential is based on? Someone sell it to me or show some sexy footage


He has potential to be another Gerald Wallace. Gerald made a NBA All-Defensive First Team and was an All-Star. Although he doesn’t fill our need for a shooter, that’s not bad for an eighth pick. That’s all I got


Again GWall 7+ wingspan, all those comps selling Okoro SHORT
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Post#1851 » by Reign23 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:26 pm

why can't we just draft him?

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Post#1852 » by RHODEY » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:26 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
We're not drafting Okoro

Well obviously not cuz we're drafting kira, but i was just remarking on that hypothetical


We're not drafting him either. He doesn't play above the rim. Too short and tiny.

Does Haliburton play above the rim?
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Post#1853 » by Zenzibar » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:28 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
El Poochio wrote:Whats Okoro's potential is based on? Someone sell it to me or show some sexy footage


Well, doubtful this one clip sells you. Assume that you know he's a very good defender. And we know his shot isn't great, work in progress etc.

But the defense plus this kind of passing/court awareness I think is what has teams willing to take a shot higher in the draft:




I wouldn't hate the Okoro pick, especially MAYBE in the context of Knicks sign FVV for PG, but honestly, he's about my 5th pick, though at one point I had sold myself on him.

Not that anyone cares, but

LaMelo
Edwards
(guys I'd hope they trade up for but they won't)

Hayes
Terry

Lewis
Haliburton
Okoro


Another good footage comparing Vassell and Okoro, it's thisclose.

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Post#1854 » by El Poochio » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:28 pm

Reign23 wrote:why can't we just draft him?



We should, exactly what we craving for as franchise
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Post#1855 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:28 pm

RHODEY wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Oscirus wrote:Well obviously not cuz we're drafting kira, but i was just remarking on that hypothetical


We're not drafting him either. He doesn't play above the rim. Too short and tiny.

Does Haliburton play above the rim?


He’s 6’5” with a 7’ wingspan.
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Post#1856 » by Zenzibar » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:30 pm

Reign23 wrote:why can't we just draft him?




This kid's potential is really high and shot is the best in the draft. Highest BBall IQ EVER recorded. The garden will love him.

Seth Curry has averaged 1.7 asssit in his career, TT will be MUCH better.
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Post#1857 » by Capn'O » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:35 pm

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“Everyone saw the progress and a lot of changes to my game,’’ Hayes said on a Zoom call. “What I really improved on, really, is my body. As soon as you see me, there’s a big difference and change from eight months ago to now.”

The 6-foot-5 lefty scoring point guard, born in Florida but raised in France, wasn’t done.

“I also shocked a lot of people with my right hand,’’ Hayes added. “They see me throwing bullets with my right and finish with floaters with my right hand. Also my shooting — some people questioned my shooting form because I had a low release. Now, my release is pretty high. I shoot it pretty well. So all those doubts went away.”

“The player that I was back in March is not the same player I am today,” Hayes added. “I’ve really leveled up a lot.”


Killian Hayes Folks!!!



I swear, if this kid doesn't look like a stud in the making I'm turning in my draft card :lol:
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Post#1858 » by El Poochio » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:35 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
El Poochio wrote:Whats Okoro's potential is based on? Someone sell it to me or show some sexy footage


Well, doubtful this one clip sells you. Assume that you know he's a very good defender. And we know his shot isn't great, work in progress etc.

But the defense plus this kind of passing/court awareness I think is what has teams willing to take a shot higher in the draft:




I wouldn't hate the Okoro pick, especially MAYBE in the context of Knicks sign FVV for PG, but honestly, he's about my 5th pick, though at one point I had sold myself on him.

Not that anyone cares, but

LaMelo
Edwards
(guys I'd hope they trade up for but they won't)

Hayes
Terry

Lewis
Haliburton
Okoro


Another good footage comparing Vassell and Okoro, it's thisclose.



2 prospects that made their way towards top of the mocks and no one really knows why
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Post#1859 » by El Poochio » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:36 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
Reign23 wrote:why can't we just draft him?




This kid's potential is really high and shot is the best in the draft. Highest BBall IQ EVER recorded. The garden will love him.

Seth Curry has averaged 1.7 asssit in his career, TT will be MUCH better.


How do you record that
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Post#1860 » by Capn'O » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:39 pm

El Poochio wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
Reign23 wrote:why can't we just draft him?




This kid's potential is really high and shot is the best in the draft. Highest BBall IQ EVER recorded. The garden will love him.

Seth Curry has averaged 1.7 asssit in his career, TT will be MUCH better.


How do you record that


You have to use traditional film. Digital doesn't capture it. Hope this helps.
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