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Grimes has shot a solid .375% from 3 for his career, but I mentioned before when many here were saying how “pretty” and “perfect” his shot form was that, while yes his form looks good, he rushes his attempts and either has way too much spin on the ball or none at all where it’s like a knuckleshot. Most of his misses fly off the rim. Not much soft shooter’s touch. Maybe he can fix that, but hasn’t so far.
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god shammgod wrote:Buttah304 wrote:So…Indy’s big splash was to trade 1sts for Pascal. And they are 10-10 since the acquisition.
Since the move (Jan 19th) their offensive rating is ranked #10 and defensive rating is ranked #24.
In the month prior to the deal, their offensive rating was #7 and their defensive rating was #20.
So not only have they been playing .500 ball but on both sides of the court they have gotten worse.
their big problem was defense and they didn't address it. myles tuner is not a defensive stopper.
they should have traded some of their assets for a second 3 and d wing besides Nesmith.
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TrueWarrior wrote:Grimes has shot a solid .375% from 3 for his career, but I mentioned before when many here were saying how “pretty” and “perfect” his shot form was that not only does he rush his attempts, but he either has way too much spin on the ball or none at all where it’s like a knuckleshot. Most of his misses fly off the rim. Not much soft shooter’s touch. Maybe he can fix that, but hasn’t so far.
I feel like his touch is solid , but his timing is always slightly off. Josh Hart to me is someone who lacks touch...but his shots usually look in line with the basket...just not enough spin and maybe too flat.
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RJ Barrett's stats in 23 games as a Raptor.
20.7 PPG
6.3 REB
3.9 AST
5 FTA
55.1% FG
40.9% 3PT
60% FT
61.61 TS%
20.7 PPG
6.3 REB
3.9 AST
5 FTA
55.1% FG
40.9% 3PT
60% FT
61.61 TS%
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omerome wrote:Gravy wrote:Looks like Grimes plays his best when Thibs is on the court.
Nah. Only when he decides to actually show a mean streak. He's been playing soft the majority of his career when Thibs was on the court and that's why he got demoted. And rightfully so.
He still can have a solid career, but why couldn't he have showed a canine attitude on a nightly basis when he was with us? Oh well.
Players who get up for "revenge" games and then come back down to earth the next game are the worst kinds of players. Fournier did it against Boston in his first year with the Knicks, scoring 41 points. But he didn't show up to the playoffs for them, which is why they let him go.
Same goes for Grimes. His game against us showed that he has the ability and just needs to bring it every night like he's trying to prove himself. But he just shows zero confidence in other games. Where is that aggression?
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TheGreenArrow wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:TheGreenArrow wrote:
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Do you have any game logs for LaMelo from the last year Greenie, just curious, every time I catch a Hornets game he's not playing.
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LaMelo can't even clear the injury list.
He's played 58 games in the last two seasons combined, let me know when he actually plays again Greenie.
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RHODEY wrote:TrueWarrior wrote:Grimes has shot a solid .375% from 3 for his career, but I mentioned before when many here were saying how “pretty” and “perfect” his shot form was that not only does he rush his attempts, but he either has way too much spin on the ball or none at all where it’s like a knuckleshot. Most of his misses fly off the rim. Not much soft shooter’s touch. Maybe he can fix that, but hasn’t so far.
I feel like his touch is solid , but his timing is always slightly off. Josh Hart to me is someone who lacks touch...but his shots usually look in line with the basket...just not enough spin and maybe too flat.
I mean Clyde always mentioned on the broadcast that Grimes either shot a knuckleball or he’d have some weird spin where it was going sideways and sh*t. It’s not just me who noticed it. Many of his misses dont have a nice bounce off the rim, so I disagree that he has a good touch.
With all that said he’s still a decent shooter numbers wise, so the potential is there. Obviously he has been bad in Detroit so far outside of 1 quarter vs us. We’ll just have to see if he can get his offense right at some point, but his defense should keep him in the league a while.
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Iron Mantis wrote:RJ Barrett's stats in 23 games as a Raptor.
20.7 PPG
6.3 REB
3.9 AST
5 FTA
55.1% FG
40.9% 3PT
60% FT
61.61 TS%
This will be the story of RJ‘s career. Good numbers on a losing squad. Now what can he do playing alongside guys better than him. He’s not a #1. Can he be a #2? He didn’t have the skill set to be a #3 here. What’s his ideal role?
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Iron Mantis wrote:RJ Barrett's stats in 23 games as a Raptor.
20.7 PPG
6.3 REB
3.9 AST
5 FTA
55.1% FG
40.9% 3PT
60% FT
61.61 TS%
I don’t think he’s ever been that efficient over that many games ever as a Knick lol.
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Fat Kat wrote:Iron Mantis wrote:RJ Barrett's stats in 23 games as a Raptor.
20.7 PPG
6.3 REB
3.9 AST
5 FTA
55.1% FG
40.9% 3PT
60% FT
61.61 TS%
This will be the story of RJ‘s career. Good numbers on a losing squad. Now what can he do playing alongside guys better than him. He’s not a #1. Can he be a #2? He didn’t have the skill set to be a #3 here. What’s his ideal role?
The 60% FT show that the other numbers are just flukes because he is just another streaky guy of NBA 2024.
You can't be improved up to 40% from three and 55 from the floor and shoot 60 from the line.
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Montmorencie wrote:Fat Kat wrote:Iron Mantis wrote:RJ Barrett's stats in 23 games as a Raptor.
20.7 PPG
6.3 REB
3.9 AST
5 FTA
55.1% FG
40.9% 3PT
60% FT
61.61 TS%
This will be the story of RJ‘s career. Good numbers on a losing squad. Now what can he do playing alongside guys better than him. He’s not a #1. Can he be a #2? He didn’t have the skill set to be a #3 here. What’s his ideal role?
The 60% FT show that the other numbers are just flukes because he is just another streaky guy of NBA 2024.
You can't be improved up to 40% from three and 55 from the floor and shoot 60 from the line.
Time will tell.
Whatever Toronto is doing, his numbers are better in every area except FT%.
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Fat Kat wrote:Iron Mantis wrote:RJ Barrett's stats in 23 games as a Raptor.
20.7 PPG
6.3 REB
3.9 AST
5 FTA
55.1% FG
40.9% 3PT
60% FT
61.61 TS%
This will be the story of RJ‘s career. Good numbers on a losing squad. Now what can he do playing alongside guys better than him. He’s not a #1. Can he be a #2? He didn’t have the skill set to be a #3 here. What’s his ideal role?
The Raps are trying to figure out the best way to use him.
The good numbers on a losing squad bit kind of weird though, since he joined an already losing team that even Anunoby couldn't save this year.
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Iron Mantis wrote:Montmorencie wrote:Fat Kat wrote:
This will be the story of RJ‘s career. Good numbers on a losing squad. Now what can he do playing alongside guys better than him. He’s not a #1. Can he be a #2? He didn’t have the skill set to be a #3 here. What’s his ideal role?
The 60% FT show that the other numbers are just flukes because he is just another streaky guy of NBA 2024.
You can't be improved up to 40% from three and 55 from the floor and shoot 60 from the line.
Time will tell.
Whatever Toronto is doing, his numbers are better in every area except FT%.
But that's very concerning. Him shooting that badly from the FT line is a gift to opponents in crunch time. Right now, they would be paying a lot of money for a situational player.
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omerome wrote:Iron Mantis wrote:Montmorencie wrote:
The 60% FT show that the other numbers are just flukes because he is just another streaky guy of NBA 2024.
You can't be improved up to 40% from three and 55 from the floor and shoot 60 from the line.
Time will tell.
Whatever Toronto is doing, his numbers are better in every area except FT%.
But that's very concerning. Him shooting that badly from the FT line is a gift to opponents in crunch time. Right now, they would be paying a lot of money for a situational player.
IDK. It's weird.
According to Raps fans, he rushes his FT'S. Whatever it is, he's leaving a lot points at the stripe.
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omerome wrote:Iron Mantis wrote:Montmorencie wrote:
The 60% FT show that the other numbers are just flukes because he is just another streaky guy of NBA 2024.
You can't be improved up to 40% from three and 55 from the floor and shoot 60 from the line.
Time will tell.
Whatever Toronto is doing, his numbers are better in every area except FT%.
But that's very concerning. Him shooting that badly from the FT line is a gift to opponents in crunch time. Right now, they would be paying a lot of money for a situational player.
thats just a bad stretch from the line. he is 72% for the season, which is not great, but definitely not a liabilty.
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TrueWarrior wrote:RHODEY wrote:TrueWarrior wrote:Grimes has shot a solid .375% from 3 for his career, but I mentioned before when many here were saying how “pretty” and “perfect” his shot form was that not only does he rush his attempts, but he either has way too much spin on the ball or none at all where it’s like a knuckleshot. Most of his misses fly off the rim. Not much soft shooter’s touch. Maybe he can fix that, but hasn’t so far.
I feel like his touch is solid , but his timing is always slightly off. Josh Hart to me is someone who lacks touch...but his shots usually look in line with the basket...just not enough spin and maybe too flat.
I mean Clyde always mentioned on the broadcast that Grimes either shot a knuckleball or he’d have some weird spin where it was going sideways and sh*t. It’s not just me who noticed it. Many of his misses dont have a nice bounce off the rim, so I disagree that he has a good touch.
With all that said he’s still a decent shooter numbers wise, so the potential is there. Obviously he has been bad in Detroit so far outside of 1 quarter vs us. We’ll just have to see if he can get his offense right at some point, but his defense should keep him in the league a while.
Right , guess its all on how you define touch. To me lack of spin is a lack of touch. Hart shoots those knuckle balls etc. But I can also see it your way - meaning if the spin is "off" that could also be a lack of touch. I always felt light Grimes was a minor adjustment from being an elite shooter. I kinda still do feel that way.
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Iron Mantis wrote:RJ Barrett's stats in 23 games as a Raptor.
20.7 PPG
6.3 REB
3.9 AST
5 FTA
55.1% FG
40.9% 3PT
60% FT
61.61 TS%
Nice....I'm curious about IQ...dont think he's adjusted as well.
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Iron Mantis wrote:Montmorencie wrote:Fat Kat wrote:
This will be the story of RJ‘s career. Good numbers on a losing squad. Now what can he do playing alongside guys better than him. He’s not a #1. Can he be a #2? He didn’t have the skill set to be a #3 here. What’s his ideal role?
The 60% FT show that the other numbers are just flukes because he is just another streaky guy of NBA 2024.
You can't be improved up to 40% from three and 55 from the floor and shoot 60 from the line.
Time will tell.
Whatever Toronto is doing, his numbers are better in every area except FT%.
It seems like Toronto has given him the key to the franchise. You can see Scotties numbers are a bit down since the trade. Now that Barnes is probably done for the season you're gonna see super chucker RJ in full form.
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RHODEY wrote:Iron Mantis wrote:RJ Barrett's stats in 23 games as a Raptor.
20.7 PPG
6.3 REB
3.9 AST
5 FTA
55.1% FG
40.9% 3PT
60% FT
61.61 TS%
Nice....I'm curious about IQ...dont think he's adjusted as well.
More points, assists and rebounds on lower efficiency. The kid can definitely ball. Got more faith in IQ than RJ.
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Iron Mantis wrote:Fat Kat wrote:Iron Mantis wrote:RJ Barrett's stats in 23 games as a Raptor.
20.7 PPG
6.3 REB
3.9 AST
5 FTA
55.1% FG
40.9% 3PT
60% FT
61.61 TS%
This will be the story of RJ‘s career. Good numbers on a losing squad. Now what can he do playing alongside guys better than him. He’s not a #1. Can he be a #2? He didn’t have the skill set to be a #3 here. What’s his ideal role?
The Raps are trying to figure out the best way to use him.
The good numbers on a losing squad bit kind of weird though, since he joined an already losing team that even Anunoby couldn't save this year.
OG and RJ are very different types of players with different roles on a winning team. OG plays well off of high usage guys, while RJ struggles in that role. That’s why it was a great trade
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