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Post#1841 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Jun 1, 2024 4:51 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:He hasn't played defense in 2 years. Not an exaggeration. He's been playing with a lack of effort and has been regressing on both ends. He's been so bad that Nets fans value Cam Thomas way more than Mikal now.

Idk why you guys are even talking so much about Mikal every single day.. nets aren't trading him and we would have to give up a bunch of picks and players to meet the Nets demand. Those guys already turned down Jalen Green and picks. It's just not happening.

Give me Ingram for cheaper who's a much better player at full strength.

Well, as always, it is an exaggeration or even false because Bridges does in fact still play lockdown defense and Ingram never has.

:lol: How much Nets games have you seen in the past 2 years?
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Do i need to post stuff about what Nets fans feel about him on defense too? Dude sucks on that end now. You're not living in reality.

If a new stat shows Dennis Smith Jr 100 seeds above Mikal Bridges on defense, maybe it is simply a terrible stat. And if a player has bad opponent’s FG% stats, maybe the entire team sucks ass big time. But claiming that Mikal Bridges has magically forgotten to play defense is wild :lol:
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Post#1842 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 1, 2024 4:57 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
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spree2kawhi wrote:Well, as always, it is an exaggeration or even false because Bridges does in fact still play lockdown defense and Ingram never has.

:lol: How much Nets games have you seen in the past 2 years?
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1. Mikal Bridges — 43.7%
2. Coby White — 42.4%
2. Jordan Poole — 42.4%
4. Max Strus — 42.3%
5. Donte DiVincenzo — 42.2%
6. Ayo Dosunmu — 41.9%
7. DeMar DeRozan — 41.5%
8. Dejounte Murray — 41.4%
9. Saddiq Bey — 41.4%
10. Jalen Brunson — 41.3%


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Do i need to post stuff about what Nets fans feel about him on defense too? Dude sucks on that end now. You're not living in reality.

If a new stat shows Dennis Smith Jr 100 seeds above Mikal Bridges on defense, maybe it is simply a terrible stat. And if a player has bad opponent’s FG% stats, maybe the entire team sucks ass big time. But claiming that Mikal Bridges has magically forgotten to play defense is wild :lol:

Yeah I dont think you've watched many Nets games in the past 2 years or any at all and you're just labeling players based off past reputations. Can't engage in a convo with someone like that. Carry on.
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Post#1843 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:01 pm

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Do i need to post stuff about what Nets fans feel about him on defense too? Dude sucks on that end now. You're not living in reality.

If a new stat shows Dennis Smith Jr 100 seeds above Mikal Bridges on defense, maybe it is simply a terrible stat. And if a player has bad opponent’s FG% stats, maybe the entire team sucks ass big time. But claiming that Mikal Bridges has magically forgotten to play defense is wild :lol:

Yeah I dont think you've watched many Nets games in the past 2 years or any at all and you're just labeling players based off past reputations. Can't engage in a convo with someone like that. Carry on.

He’ll eventually be here and you’ll like it.
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Post#1844 » by TrueWarrior » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:27 pm

Depth is important, and we’ll have more of it again if guys are healthier next season, but we cant build our team thinkin Jalen &/or Julius are going to get hurt. There’s only so much cap we can use.

We arent going to win a title if our top guns get injured. So just getting mediocre “stars” like Ingram or Dejounte does nothing for us. Not like they’ll lead us anywhere. All they’d do is diminish Jalen and Julius, and even OG/Donte/Deuce/Isaiah/Josh.

This is why people want Mikal. He fits with our team if we’re full strength by going back to his past 3/D self since he wont have to expend as much energy on offense, but if guys get injured he can fill in as a solid scorer.

Not saying the Nets will trade Mikal to us, but unless we can nab a true superstar we need to be targeting more team/two-way players instead of just ball dominant average efficiency scorers who dont do much else.
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Post#1845 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:28 pm

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He was great defensively for Phoenix....so years is a little exaggeration, isn't it?

He hasn't played defense in 2 years. Not an exaggeration. He's been playing with a lack of effort and has been regressing on both ends. He's been so bad that Nets fans value Cam Thomas way more than Mikal now.

Idk why you guys are even talking so much about Mikal every single day.. nets aren't trading him and we would have to give up a bunch of picks and players to meet the Nets demand. Those guys already turned down Jalen Green and picks. It's just not happening.

Give me Ingram for cheaper who's a much better player at full strength.

I think Ingram would cost 4 picks.

I think he might cost around 2 picks like the Hawks were asking for teams for Murray. Ingram is entering the final year of his deal and is due for an extension. Can hit free agency next year so his price might be low. Ingram being injured a bit could also lower his price too.
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Post#1846 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:33 pm

Oh and keep in mind.. he did this with MIKAL guarding him. I aint never heard of mikal locking up any star in the playoffs.

Mikal held Ingram to 61.9% FG in this series :lol:
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Post#1847 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:35 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:He hasn't played defense in 2 years. Not an exaggeration. He's been playing with a lack of effort and has been regressing on both ends. He's been so bad that Nets fans value Cam Thomas way more than Mikal now.

Idk why you guys are even talking so much about Mikal every single day.. nets aren't trading him and we would have to give up a bunch of picks and players to meet the Nets demand. Those guys already turned down Jalen Green and picks. It's just not happening.

Give me Ingram for cheaper who's a much better player at full strength.

I think Ingram would cost 4 picks.

I think he might cost around 2 picks like the Hawks were asking for teams for Murray. Ingram is entering the final year of his deal and is due for an extension. Can hit free agency next year so his price might be low. Ingram being injured a bit could also lower his price too.

So we get Ingram (and Alvarado ... another midget, lol; I do like him though) for the picks and Bojan. Does Ingram, OG, and Randle all start? How does that work?
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Post#1848 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:41 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:I think Ingram would cost 4 picks.

I think he might cost around 2 picks like the Hawks were asking for teams for Murray. Ingram is entering the final year of his deal and is due for an extension. Can hit free agency next year so his price might be low. Ingram being injured a bit could also lower his price too.

So we get Ingram (and Alvarado ... another midget, lol; I do like him though) for the picks and Bojan. Does Ingram, OG, and Randle all start? How does that work?

Like I was telling Fury earlier, I think it can work. Pelicans are doing something similar already. They're playing Ingram next to a big wing in Herb Jones and a PF in Zion. He can do the same here with OG and Randle
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Post#1849 » by HopelessKnick » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:44 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:I think he might cost around 2 picks like the Hawks were asking for teams for Murray. Ingram is entering the final year of his deal and is due for an extension. Can hit free agency next year so his price might be low. Ingram being injured a bit could also lower his price too.

So we get Ingram (and Alvarado ... another midget, lol; I do like him though) for the picks and Bojan. Does Ingram, OG, and Randle all start? How does that work?

Like I was telling Fury earlier, I think it can work. Pelicans are doing something similar already. They're playing Ingram next to a big wing in Herb Jones and a PF in Zion. He can do the same here with OG and Randle


Keep in mind though that during the final minutes of games you'll have Brunson-Ingram and Randle on the court together....meaning you have 3 guys that are not good defensively and you can't realistically bench any of them without causing trouble.....don't know if I like that.

Keep in mind that getting any star player would effectively bench DD and Hart during game finishes....is that something we really want?
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Post#1850 » by TrueWarrior » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:48 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Oh and keep in mind.. he did this with MIKAL guarding him. I aint never heard of mikal locking up any star in the playoffs.

Mikal held Ingram to 61.9% FG in this series :lol:
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1. Healthy Ingram is imaginary. We simply cant commit big money to him and OG. I choose OG. Ingram also is not close to a SG anymore.

2. Why are the Pels looking to move him if he was so good? They’re committing to Jones and Murphy more, who are similar to Mikal. Ingram has moments where he scores well, but he’s just not good enough consistently and doesn’t do much else well.

3. I say it all the time but there’s only one basketball dude. If Ingram comes here your boy Julius gets diminished. Why do you not have confidence in Julius and this team, after what we saw in January? Julius is the 2nd option, and OG, Donte, and Deuce can fill in as support. We could use another scorer for emergencies like Bojan/Alec, but we’d have enough scoring at full strength so we shouldn’t overpay for that.

4. Let’s keep it real. Ingram isnt a Thibs/Knicks player. He looks like he’s stoned 24/7. Who are we kidding with this guy? You seriously see him as helping us win a championship? If Jalen gets hurt, it’s not like Ingram is going to carry us anywhere. He didn’t seem to mesh well with Jalen on team USA either, as he prefers the mid range just like him. He’s basically a better RJ. A nice player, but just not what we need.
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Post#1851 » by HopelessKnick » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:48 pm

What do you guys think about Anfernee Simons?

I know he is a dynamic scorer and great shooter (40% from 3 and 90% from the FT line)...and he got 23/6assists last season. Is he a good secondary playmaker?

He could be that "flamethrower" type scorer off the bench. I know his defense is not good but Thibs could help him out there, right? I read last season that Portland wants to build their backcourt around Henderson and Sharpe and would listen to offers around draft picks and expiring contracts. At the same time Simons does not have that "star player" tag where you are obliged to play him 35 minutes and in crunch time as well. People were talking about getting Clarkson...well Simons looks like a younger version and much more efficient version.

Could see Deuce, Simons, Hart, Precious, Mitch as a pretty great bench unit.
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Post#1852 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 1, 2024 5:53 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:
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HarthorneWingo wrote:So we get Ingram (and Alvarado ... another midget, lol; I do like him though) for the picks and Bojan. Does Ingram, OG, and Randle all start? How does that work?

Like I was telling Fury earlier, I think it can work. Pelicans are doing something similar already. They're playing Ingram next to a big wing in Herb Jones and a PF in Zion. He can do the same here with OG and Randle


Keep in mind though that during the final minutes of games you'll have Brunson-Ingram and Randle on the court together....meaning you have 3 guys that are not good defensively and you can't realistically bench any of them without causing trouble.....don't know if I like that.

Keep in mind that getting any star player would effectively bench DD and Hart during game finishes....is that something we really want?

I mean Donte is a pretty awful defender himself and we still did well.


Ingram also made some big leaps this year defensively too. The good thing about ingram is that he can switch 1-5 on defense.

Ingram said he has increasingly used his 7-foot-3 wingspan to his advantage this season. Ingram agreed with the assessment that this has been his best defensive season in New Orleans.

“That’s what I did with the Lakers,” Ingram said. “But with New Orleans, yeah, for sure.”

“Trying to use my length a little bit. I think I’ve made progress from last year to this year.”

With the Pelicans struggling to keep up with the Cleveland Cavaliers on Wednesday, coach Willie Green went to a small-ball lineup featuring Ingram at center. For the final 4:20 of the first half, Ingram was asked to guard Cavaliers center Jarrett Allen. The Cavaliers shot 1 of 7 from the field during that stretch, and the Pelicans were able to cut their 14-point lead to eight points by halftime.

Murphy said he has seen major growth from Ingram this season.

“He’s made humongous steps defensively,” Murphy said. “It’s a tribute to how much he wants to win. His first two years, I felt like there were times when I felt like he was really focused on offense. This year, he’s been locked in defensively."

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Post#1853 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Jun 1, 2024 6:00 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:He hasn't played defense in 2 years. Not an exaggeration. He's been playing with a lack of effort and has been regressing on both ends. He's been so bad that Nets fans value Cam Thomas way more than Mikal now.

Idk why you guys are even talking so much about Mikal every single day.. nets aren't trading him and we would have to give up a bunch of picks and players to meet the Nets demand. Those guys already turned down Jalen Green and picks. It's just not happening.

Give me Ingram for cheaper who's a much better player at full strength.

I think Ingram would cost 4 picks.

I think he might cost around 2 picks like the Hawks were asking for teams for Murray. Ingram is entering the final year of his deal and is due for an extension. Can hit free agency next year so his price might be low. Ingram being injured a bit could also lower his price too.

If the price is low, bring him in. He’s a baller.
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Post#1854 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 1, 2024 6:01 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Oh and keep in mind.. he did this with MIKAL guarding him. I aint never heard of mikal locking up any star in the playoffs.

Mikal held Ingram to 61.9% FG in this series :lol:
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1. Healthy Ingram is imaginary. We simply cant commit big money to him and OG. I choose OG.

2. Why are the Pels looking to move him if he was so good? They’re committing to Jones and Murphy more, who are similar to Mikal. Ingram has moments where he scores well, but he’s just not good enough consistently and doesn’t do much else well.

3. I say it all the time but there’s only one basketball dude. If Ingram comes here your boy Julius gets diminished. Why do you not have confidence in Julius and this team, after what we saw in January? Julius is the 2nd option, and OG, Donte, and Deuce can fill in as support. We could use another scorer for emergencies, but we’d have enough scoring at full strength.

4. Let’s keep it real. Ingram isnt a Thibs/Knicks player. He looks like he’s stoned 24/7. Who are we kidding with this guy? You seriously see him as helping us win a championship? He didn’t seem to mesh well with Jalen on team USA either, as he prefers the mid range just like him. He’s basically a better RJ. A nice player, but just not what we need.

1. He's as injury prone as Jamal Murray and he still helped them win a chip

2. They have Trey Murphy who's younger than Ingram and it would be much cheaper to keep Murphy than give Ingram a big extension. Also saying Ingram doesn't do anything besides scoring isn't true. He's a pretty great playmaker and made some leaps defensively.

3. I don't care if Randle's role gets diminished. Actually better for him that way so he can be better on both ends. Randle's started to be more of a facilitator in January with OG and it looked great. Also if Randle/OG gets hurt, we need another scorer badly. Ingram gives us insurance.

4. Team USA was a joke. Nobody meshed well on that team. Idgaf if Ingram looks like he's stoned. He can hoop.
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Post#1855 » by TrueWarrior » Sat Jun 1, 2024 6:18 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Oh and keep in mind.. he did this with MIKAL guarding him. I aint never heard of mikal locking up any star in the playoffs.

Mikal held Ingram to 61.9% FG in this series :lol:


1. Healthy Ingram is imaginary. We simply cant commit big money to him and OG. I choose OG.

2. Why are the Pels looking to move him if he was so good? They’re committing to Jones and Murphy more, who are similar to Mikal. Ingram has moments where he scores well, but he’s just not good enough consistently and doesn’t do much else well.

3. I say it all the time but there’s only one basketball dude. If Ingram comes here your boy Julius gets diminished. Why do you not have confidence in Julius and this team, after what we saw in January? Julius is the 2nd option, and OG, Donte, and Deuce can fill in as support. We could use another scorer for emergencies, but we’d have enough scoring at full strength.

4. Let’s keep it real. Ingram isnt a Thibs/Knicks player. He looks like he’s stoned 24/7. Who are we kidding with this guy? You seriously see him as helping us win a championship? He didn’t seem to mesh well with Jalen on team USA either, as he prefers the mid range just like him. He’s basically a better RJ. A nice player, but just not what we need.

1. He's as injury prone as Jamal Murray and he still helped them win a chip

2. They have Trey Murphy who's younger than Ingram and it would be much cheaper to keep Murphy than give Ingram a big extension. Also saying Ingram doesn't do anything besides scoring isn't true. He's a pretty great playmaker and made some leaps defensively.

3. I don't care if Randle's role gets diminished. Actually better for him that way so he can be better on both ends. Randle's started to be more of a facilitator in January with OG and it looked great. Also if Randle/OG gets hurt, we need another scorer badly. Ingram gives us insurance.

4. Team USA was a joke. Nobody meshed well on that team. Idgaf if Ingram looks like he's stoned. He can hoop.


The Pels are shopping a guy in his prime for a reason, not just about money. Ingram would be worth it and they’d trade Murphy if he wasn’t fool’s gold who hasn’t lead them anywhere. He’s a solid passer I’ll give you that, but he’s a below average to average defender at best.

You, and some others here, are also too focused on injury insurance.

I’ll repeat: Ingram or Dejounte are not leading us anywhere if Jalen &/or Julius get hurt. They would not have won us a ring this season for example. We need to build the team thinking our guys will be mostly healthy.

If Jokic gets injured, Jamal Murray aint leading the Nugs anywhere. Same goes for any other superstar.

We got bit by the injury bug this season, but it allowed Donte, Deuce, Josh, and Isaiah to step up more. OG would have too if he didn’t get hurt. We just need our guys to stay healthy. You said it yourself our team looked great in January, so why mess that up? Let’s see if it was for real. Julius had a freak injury, and we can’t just expect him to all of the sudden become a better defender and shooter because Ingram comes.

We can get an emergency scorer, like how Burks was in the playoffs, but Ingram is simply too expensive, injury prone, and a questionable fit for that.

Ingram is also not a SG at all anymore man. He’s ball dominant and prefers the midrange on offense, and OG or Jalen shouldnt be guarding quick guards, so Ingram is going to be our guard stopper? Id rather have Deuce, Josh, Donte, or someone else for that role.
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Post#1856 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Jun 1, 2024 6:20 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Oh and keep in mind.. he did this with MIKAL guarding him. I aint never heard of mikal locking up any star in the playoffs.

Mikal held Ingram to 61.9% FG in this series :lol:
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1. Healthy Ingram is imaginary. We simply cant commit big money to him and OG. I choose OG. Ingram also is not close to a SG anymore.

2. Why are the Pels looking to move him if he was so good? They’re committing to Jones and Murphy more, who are similar to Mikal. Ingram has moments where he scores well, but he’s just not good enough consistently and doesn’t do much else well.

3. I say it all the time but there’s only one basketball dude. If Ingram comes here your boy Julius gets diminished. Why do you not have confidence in Julius and this team, after what we saw in January? Julius is the 2nd option, and OG, Donte, and Deuce can fill in as support. We could use another scorer for emergencies like Bojan/Alec, but we’d have enough scoring at full strength so we shouldn’t overpay for that.

4. Let’s keep it real. Ingram isnt a Thibs/Knicks player. He looks like he’s stoned 24/7. Who are we kidding with this guy? You seriously see him as helping us win a championship? If Jalen gets hurt, it’s not like Ingram is going to carry us anywhere. He didn’t seem to mesh well with Jalen on team USA either, as he prefers the mid range just like him. He’s basically a better RJ. A nice player, but just not what we need.

I could tell you why, but I’m not going to go there again. A player like DeRozan or Ingram would be great offensively without any doubt and I’d love it, but they wouldn’t help one bit defensively. I think doubling down on defense is the way to go for us so Bridges seems like the player to add, while the other NOP wings would be great too. McDaniels, Bane, Jalen Williams, dudes like that … all unavailable.

Any legit stretch 5 would provide a great lift, too.

Another 3&D wing or stretch-5 is really what we need to add.
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Post#1857 » by 8516knicks » Sat Jun 1, 2024 6:54 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Oh and keep in mind.. he did this with MIKAL guarding him. I aint never heard of mikal locking up any star in the playoffs.

Mikal held Ingram to 61.9% FG in this series :lol:
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Gee, with stats like that, Ingram must have led the Pelicans to the Conference championship! When does their series with the Celtics start? I can't find it listed in ESPN? :lol:
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Post#1858 » by TrueWarrior » Sat Jun 1, 2024 7:14 pm

One last thing, but even our great January was before many of our guys really solidified themselves.

Donte averaged 21 pts, 4.4 rebs, and 3.3 asts in the 35 games after Julius/OG got hurt. Thats basically half the damn season, and it was his first time being a primary offensive option. He was up and down in the playoffs, but finished averaging 18 ppg and 42% from 3, with a 39 point game 7. Who’s to say he cant add a couple more wrinkles to his game?

Same for Deuce. He was just getting his feet wet in January, but slowly broke out as the season went on. Once Grimes got traded his role became more defined. Averaged 12/3/2 in 31 mpg post All Star break, and was mostly solid in the playoffs. Was his first time getting actual PT, and he can obviously improve as well.

OG was looking like Kawhi-lite right before his injury in January, and was on pace to have his highest scoring game ever in game 2 against the Pacers before he got hurt again. Injuries are clearly a concern for him, but he has another offensive gear it seems. With a big contract Im sure he will be more confident and aggressive.

Isaiah’s floater came out of nowhere too. He should be able to take some more shots and expand his offense if we retain him on a large deal. This was his first time playing big minutes. He scored more per minute and hit more threes on the Cavs/Clippers for example. The ability is there.

Julius is the biggest X factor. People talk about needing another scorer and 2nd option, but thats what our All NBA/All Star 24/10/4 PF is supposed to be. A couple freak injuries and he’s forgotten apparently. I’m willing to give him one last shot.

Bojan, Alec, or someone else like them can fill the emergency scorer role. They started bad here, but found their footing later. We have more than enough scoring at full strength.

So sure let’s make a deal if it makes sense, but we dont need to add fake stars with questionable impact just because you’re bored. We will smartly give this group another chance unless a no brainer opportunity arises.
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Post#1859 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Jun 1, 2024 8:58 pm

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Post#1860 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 1, 2024 9:26 pm

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1. Healthy Ingram is imaginary. We simply cant commit big money to him and OG. I choose OG.

2. Why are the Pels looking to move him if he was so good? They’re committing to Jones and Murphy more, who are similar to Mikal. Ingram has moments where he scores well, but he’s just not good enough consistently and doesn’t do much else well.

3. I say it all the time but there’s only one basketball dude. If Ingram comes here your boy Julius gets diminished. Why do you not have confidence in Julius and this team, after what we saw in January? Julius is the 2nd option, and OG, Donte, and Deuce can fill in as support. We could use another scorer for emergencies, but we’d have enough scoring at full strength.

4. Let’s keep it real. Ingram isnt a Thibs/Knicks player. He looks like he’s stoned 24/7. Who are we kidding with this guy? You seriously see him as helping us win a championship? He didn’t seem to mesh well with Jalen on team USA either, as he prefers the mid range just like him. He’s basically a better RJ. A nice player, but just not what we need.

1. He's as injury prone as Jamal Murray and he still helped them win a chip

2. They have Trey Murphy who's younger than Ingram and it would be much cheaper to keep Murphy than give Ingram a big extension. Also saying Ingram doesn't do anything besides scoring isn't true. He's a pretty great playmaker and made some leaps defensively.

3. I don't care if Randle's role gets diminished. Actually better for him that way so he can be better on both ends. Randle's started to be more of a facilitator in January with OG and it looked great. Also if Randle/OG gets hurt, we need another scorer badly. Ingram gives us insurance.

4. Team USA was a joke. Nobody meshed well on that team. Idgaf if Ingram looks like he's stoned. He can hoop.


The Pels are shopping a guy in his prime for a reason, not just about money. Ingram would be worth it and they’d trade Murphy if he wasn’t fool’s gold who hasn’t lead them anywhere. He’s a solid passer I’ll give you that, but he’s a below average to average defender at best.

You, and some others here, are also too focused on injury insurance.

I’ll repeat: Ingram or Dejounte are not leading us anywhere if Jalen &/or Julius get hurt. They would not have won us a ring this season for example. We need to build the team thinking our guys will be mostly healthy.

If Jokic gets injured, Jamal Murray aint leading the Nugs anywhere. Same goes for any other superstar.

We got bit by the injury bug this season, but it allowed Donte, Deuce, Josh, and Isaiah to step up more. OG would have too if he didn’t get hurt. We just need our guys to stay healthy. You said it yourself our team looked great in January, so why mess that up? Let’s see if it was for real. Julius had a freak injury, and we can’t just expect him to all of the sudden become a better defender and shooter because Ingram comes.

We can get an emergency scorer, like how Burks was in the playoffs, but Ingram is simply too expensive, injury prone, and a questionable fit for that.

Ingram is also not a SG at all anymore man. He’s ball dominant and prefers the midrange on offense, and OG or Jalen shouldnt be guarding quick guards, so Ingram is going to be our guard stopper? Id rather have Deuce, Josh, Donte, or someone else for that role.

If Jokic didn't have Jamal Murray, they don't win the chip last year. Every star needs help.

Ingram has been better than Donte has been on defense and can actually switch from 1-5 with his 7-3 wingspan. As noted, he made some big leaps the past 2 years. Ingram has played the 2 before and is already playing next to a big wing in Herb and PF Zion, ball dominant CJ McCollum which is pretty similar to what we have here in Brunson, OG, Randle.

You say you want to run it back, but yet you want us to trade for Mikal who's going to be much more expensive than Ingram, hasn't played defense in years and sucks as a scorer and playmaker. And I don't wanna hear "Thibs is gonna make him play defense like he did as a rookie".

If Brunson had Ingram against the Pacers, Im pretty sure we would be in the ECF at the very least. That's why we want another offensive player.

Im cool with running it back, but if we can get the opportunity to get a young all star like Ingram for a reasonable price I don't see any reason not to. Especially with how we were hit with the injury bug, we should be more motivated to get a great offensive player.
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