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Carmelo to OKC getting finalized. Updates PG 36&7

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Re: Carmelo to OKC getting finalized. Updates PG 36&7 

Post#1861 » by Traveyknicks23 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:45 pm

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Traveyknicks23 wrote:This team will be getting lit the **** up every night we getting punished


Like Melo made such a big difference.

Kept it respectable Main dude looking to feed kp more so than anyone else lol

The safety net is gone now
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Post#1862 » by GONYK » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:45 pm

I don't know why people are really evaluating Kanter as a player. He was just a contract to make this thing work.
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Post#1863 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:45 pm

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will34 wrote:Knicks front office writes blogs preaching defense and hard work and then 2 days later trade for Kanter. The incompetence is astounding. Perry and Mills are jokes.


pretty much somes it up, but the melo hate is clouding judgement for folks to see this


Who says they don't work hard? :D
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Re: Carmelo to OKC getting finalized. Updates PG 36&7 

Post#1864 » by SpikJagger » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:45 pm

This trade is simple addition by subtraction.

Subtract skill player from team. Add two of the worst defenders in the league.

????

Doncic.
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Re: Carmelo to OKC getting finalized. Updates PG 36&7 

Post#1865 » by clyde21 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:45 pm

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Re: Carmelo to OKC getting finalized. Updates PG 36&7 

Post#1866 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:46 pm

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Post#1867 » by Side beard » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:47 pm

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I thought Phil was fired so we didn't trade KP for Kyrie Irving and a dusty Verajao headband.

But maybe that was the plan. Trade KP for Kyrie. Wait for KP to become FA. Sign him then and by that time he'd be mature enough to play with 32 years old Kyrie and 40 years old and very experienced Melo.
I don't know why people are really evaluating Kanter as a player. He was just a contract to make this thing work.

Kanter is kinda **** on defense and small, but black hole on offense. While he is good scorer and rebounder, there is a reason he was not played in POs. Hopefully Knicks can turn him in to picks or young assets.
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Re: Carmelo to OKC getting finalized. Updates PG 36&7 

Post#1868 » by Traveyknicks23 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:47 pm

Sacrificing the boys for a shot at doncic lol

That dude better ball out nothing less than spectacular
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Re: RE: Re: Carmelo to OKC getting finalized. Updates PG 36&7 

Post#1869 » by Billy Goat » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:48 pm

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Side beard wrote:But maybe that was the plan. Trade KP for Kyrie. Wait for KP to become FA. Sign him then and by that time he'd be mature enough to play with 32 years old Kyrie and 40 years old and very experienced Melo.
I don't know why people are really evaluating Kanter as a player. He was just a contract to make this thing work.

Kanter is kinda **** on defense and small, but black hole on offense. While he is good scorer and rebounder, there is a reason he was not played in POs. Hopefully Knicks can turn him in to picks or young assets.


You don't have to play him 40 minutes a night. Kanter is a guy who won't wet himself if he has to play.
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Re: Carmelo to OKC getting finalized. Updates PG 36&7 

Post#1870 » by dakomish23 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:48 pm

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moocow007 wrote:The Knicks don't have the ball movement or shot creators to maximize Kanter's skills. He's going to end up grinding and holding the ball while everyone else watches. His fg% will drop and folks will be bitching about him well before the All Star break. McDermott also is not a guy that can create his own shots AND would be better off as a spot up guy that can hit shots from someone that can drive the lane, draw defenses and dish out (ie. Not what the Knicks have). Both are also poor defenders. So regardless of their individual skill sets, neither player should be expected ty of do better than they have nor are good fits on paper. It's better than Ryan Anderson in that at least were not getting an extra years of salary. Unless they can deal both guys, it may actually have been better, from a move forward and get your core guys more involved pov to just buy Anthony out.


Yep complain about Iso Melo. Trade for a guy who is going to have to get his posting up, from the center position, in 2017, while he does nothing **** else on the floor.


I knew it was coming. Every move the Knicks make is a homerun apparently.
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Re: Carmelo to OKC getting finalized. Updates PG 36&7 

Post#1871 » by EchelonNYK » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:49 pm

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EchelonNYK wrote:
Traveyknicks23 wrote:This team will be getting lit the **** up every night we getting punished


Like Melo made such a big difference.

Kept it respectable Main dude looking to feed kp more so than anyone else lol

The safety net is gone now


I never cared for hero ball

This knicks squad will win as a team, not by one individual. And when did KP become a scrub? The kid gets buckets.
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Post#1872 » by ibraheim718 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:50 pm

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That's a hell of an exaggeration. Dude is an offensive dynamo and he rebounds at a decent rate.

Sure his defense is historically bad but he obviously carved a significant role in okc as an instant scoring big man off the bench.

Ryan Anderson is borderline unplayable. Meyers Leonard is literally unplayable. Kanter will be just fine in a 6th man role.


Kanter will be fine until you realize as soon as he goes in NYK +/- skews heavily towards -.


Which is fine while we have him this year, as we are trying to tank for Doncic.

I also think he's traded at some point, but that's based on nothing more than a feeling so chances are I'm wrong.


If the true intention is to tank than the trade makes sense. But then why not keep the guy who was great at accidentally tanking or get a guy who was specifically good at tanking?
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Re: Carmelo to OKC getting finalized. Updates PG 36&7 

Post#1873 » by SpikJagger » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:51 pm

Oh, ****. Kanter has a trade kicker? We paying him over 20m?
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Re: RE: Re: Carmelo to OKC getting finalized. Updates PG 36&7 

Post#1874 » by ibraheim718 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:51 pm

GONYK wrote:I don't know why people are really evaluating Kanter as a player. He was just a contract to make this thing work.


Well because we have to watch him player next year.
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Re: Carmelo to OKC getting finalized. Updates PG 36&7 

Post#1875 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:51 pm

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Knickstape1214 wrote:
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Kanter will be fine until you realize as soon as he goes in NYK +/- skews heavily towards -.


Which is fine while we have him this year, as we are trying to tank for Doncic.

I also think he's traded at some point, but that's based on nothing more than a feeling so chances are I'm wrong.


If the true intention is to tank than the trade makes sense. But then why not keep the guy who was great at accidentally tanking or get a guy who was specifically good at tanking?


Kanter is specifically good at tanking. He's going to make us worse than we are with Melo, which is a win for us long-term. I've said repeatedly I'm not thrilled with the trade and wanted something more (Abrines, Ferg, a first, or Huestis), but it is what it is. We're gonna suck this year, get a high pick, and hopefully draft Doncic. If we're really interested in making KP "the guy" why would we keep Melo here another year? Honestly, I was cool keeping Melo and letting the chips fall where they may. Like you said, we sucked with him anyway and IMO keeping him could have helped Frank a lot this year.
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Post#1876 » by GONYK » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:52 pm

Side beard wrote:
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Side beard wrote:But maybe that was the plan. Trade KP for Kyrie. Wait for KP to become FA. Sign him then and by that time he'd be mature enough to play with 32 years old Kyrie and 40 years old and very experienced Melo.
I don't know why people are really evaluating Kanter as a player. He was just a contract to make this thing work.

Kanter is kinda **** on defense and small, but black hole on offense. While he is good scorer and rebounder, there is a reason he was not played in POs. Hopefully Knicks can turn him in to picks or young assets.
My point is that he's just a filler. Don't play him if you don't want to.
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Post#1877 » by GONYK » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:53 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:
GONYK wrote:I don't know why people are really evaluating Kanter as a player. He was just a contract to make this thing work.


Well because we have to watch him player next year.
We watched Bargnani. I think we'll be fine.
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Re: Carmelo to OKC getting finalized. Updates PG 36&7 

Post#1878 » by Traveyknicks23 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:53 pm

EchelonNYK wrote:
Traveyknicks23 wrote:
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Like Melo made such a big difference.

Kept it respectable Main dude looking to feed kp more so than anyone else lol

The safety net is gone now


I never cared for hero ball

This knicks squad will win as a team, not by one individual.


Maybe you forgot the players we had in knick jerseys while melo was here lol team ball ?with who ? Tyson ? Amare ? Jr ? Tony Douglas ? Shump? Mike bibby ? Noah? Rose ? Jennings ? Where was this "team" in team ball ? Didn't exist

This Knicks team is going to get annihilated lol and maybe if we suck badly enough we get enough ping pong balls and draft a guy who could possibly be go for us then again maybe we don't. All in now
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Post#1879 » by vallen » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:53 pm

GONYK wrote:I don't know why people are really evaluating Kanter as a player. He was just a contract to make this thing work.



really ? a team that once thought Bargnani was a missing link, and overpaid noah and thj. hes very much in their plans.
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Re: Carmelo to OKC getting finalized. Updates PG 36&7 

Post#1880 » by FutureKnicksGM » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:53 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:
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Captain_Caveman wrote:Porzingis for Tatum and the Lakers/Kings pick Boston owns.

Then tank like Rommel the next two years.


Hey Boston fan, GTFO

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I came correct. Tatum/Lakers-Kings pick for KP and then tanking hard is a reasonable take and exactly what the Knicks should do, but hard to explain that to a fanbase who thought that they would get a Nets pick for Carmelo this summer.

KP is a nice prospect who isn't a franchise player prospect. If they try to prop him up as one, it won't work and then people will blame him for not reaching their unrealistic expectations. But he will get enough stats to confuse the people that don't understand that, just as they did with Melo, Amare, Marbury, David Lee and a bunch of other good but not great players going back to Bernard King.

No skin off my ass, but if I were you guys, I would want more than one 25ppg scorer leading my team to 30 wins year after year. Seriously don't you guys deserve better by now?

No question in my mind that Ainge would take that sort of trade for KP if he were your GM. Because collecting as many top 5 picks as possible at the start of a rebuild is the smart thing to do. It gives you options. It is cost-effective and frees up cap. And it puts you in every trade market that comes up, year after year.

Propping up KP as a fake superstar with no talent around him and no means to get talent around him is not the smart play here, IMO. It's just not.


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